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What resolution though? I like UHD, and hope the new iPhone 5.8 has it. If it doesn't, then I will be disappointed yet again, since Samsung is expected to have UHD displays in their Fall 2017 lineup.
 
Huh? It's clear to me you don't know the difference between up to and starting from

NOBODY has reported the 1,000 is starting from. Up to means that's as high as it's likely to go.

You haven't proved anything here. Everybody has heard the reports of what the price could be. Nobody has reported at any point 64GB model would start at 1,000 NOBODY

Only person looking daft here is you for not knowing the difference between a starting price and a price that it will go up to.

It's VERY clear you didn't read my post properly. As I said it's pointless to continue this discussion as you move the goalposts in the face of facts.

Here are some more links to what you portray as not being real:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4205792/Report-claims-iPhone-8-cost-1-000.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/iphone-8-could-cost-more-9786592
https://9to5mac.com/2017/02/08/iphone-8-lumentum-3d-price-availability/
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...eaks-oled-screen-displayyou-des-a7570996.html
http://www.techradar.com/news/iphone-8-price-could-push-past-1000
 
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Everyone will be very disappointed when none of this happens. These rumors don't even make any sense. Why would they get rid of the home button when they just designed a new solid one for the iPhone 7 to just use for this one year? I don't buy it. And also 16gb was the base storage for so many years I forget. They aren't bumping the base storage again just because they feel like being generous. I'm still waiting to hear some good rational rumors...
 
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You do realise all of those links are just copying what the original report said, right?

and you posting all those links are pointless as yet again NONE have said 1,000 would be the STARTING PRICE....they are all saying it could be up to 1,000 or over for the iphone 8.

How is this so hard for you to understand? it really isn't hard to know the difference.

where the hell have I said the whole 1,000 price point isn't real? I've clearly said that is the case. You are the one who is posting false claims stating there are reports the 64GB would cost over 1,000...that is not true at all.

Is it possible? sure but is that what the media is saying? hell no.

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64GB price point of 1,000 would be idiotic of apple as it likely means it would cost 1,100 to 1,200 for a 256GB which nobody would go for.
 
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when will September come.I am getting bored from my iPhone 6s Plus

So if you're getting bored with your 6s, then why is it that you want the iPhone 7 to be an "S series" with the same physical design that you've been requesting on previous threads? Your signature states "Waiting for iPhone 7s Jet white." So if you were bored with your 6S, wouldn't you want a complete redesign?

Because the rumors are serving more and more that the next iPhone Will have significant changes across the board.
 
You do realise all of those links are just copying what the original report said, right?

and you posting all those links are pointless as yet again NONE have said 1,000 would be the STARTING PRICE....they are all saying it could be up to 1,000 or over for the iphone 8.

How is this so hard for you to understand? it really isn't hard to know the difference.

where the hell have I said the whole 1,000 price point isn't real? I've clearly said that is the case. You are the one who is posting false claims stating there are reports the 64GB would cost over 1,000...that is not true at all.

Is it possible? sure but is that what the media is saying? hell no.

o_Oo_Oo_O

64GB price point of 1,000 would be idiotic of apple as it likely means it would cost 1,100 to 1,200 for a 256GB which nobody would go for.

No they all say the starting price will be MORE then $1000 which YOU claim no report has stated:

no, the reports are it will be up to 1,000 nowhere has said we are looking at that price for the smaller model. As there's no way they will charge 1,100 for the iphone for 256GB. Not a chance.

Lol you can't even remember what you said now....
 
No they all say the starting price will be MORE then $1000 which YOU claim no report has stated:



Lol you can't even remember what you said now....
the word STARTING PRICE was never stated in any of those articles. When somebody says UP TO that means thats likely what the price goes up to...that does not mean STARTING PRICE.

otherwise it would state so..

This is really starting to get embarrassing that you don't know the difference. I suggest you just stop posting about this. Just making you look worse.
 
the word STARTING PRICE was never stated in any of those articles. When somebody says UP TO that means thats likely what the price goes up to...that does not mean STARTING PRICE.

otherwise it would state so..

This is really starting to get embarrassing that you don't know the difference. I suggest you just stop posting about this. Just making you look worse.


There will be limited quantities of the OLED model , so STARTING at $1000 will put it out of reach and set ASP expectations (for a declining Iphone scenario) going forward. There is NO WAY the X model starts less than $1000 when you think about it. These are the same folks that slapped $17,000 on a watch that is obsolete in a year or so.
 
There will be limited quantities of the OLED model , so STARTING at $1000 will put it out of reach and set ASP expectations (for a declining Iphone scenario) going forward. There is NO WAY the X model starts less than $1000 when you think about it. These are the same folks that slapped $17,000 on a watch that is obsolete in a year or so.

My argument isn't that it's impossible to think it starts at 1,000. My point is nobody is suggesting rumour wise it will be. They are saying it will likely cost this much. They aren't saying the 256GB will be more than 1,000

I can't see people buying this at all if they put a price of 1,000 for 64GB. Would mean the 256GB could cost 1,200 and nobody will buy that

People will just buy the S8
 
My argument isn't that it's impossible to think it starts at 1,000. My point is nobody is suggesting rumour wise it will be. They are saying it will likely cost this much. They aren't saying the 256GB will be more than 1,000

I can't see people buying this at all if they put a price of 1,000 for 64GB. Would mean the 256GB could cost 1,200 and nobody will buy that

People will just buy the S8

You underestimate apl faithful to have the latest greatest and the decline in Iphones globally, with the NEED for higher ASP. I would not doubt the X tops out at $1500 to recalibrate expectations in a smaller Iphone market scenario. Aspirational and interational.
 
You underestimate apl faithful to have the latest greatest and the decline in Iphones globally, with he NEED for higher ASP.

Apple fans are loyal but everybody has a price where it's too much. Certainly when the reasons for the price increase is due to features Samsung has for a far cheaper price
 
Apple fans are loyal but everybody has a price where it's too much. Certainly when the reasons for the price increase is due to features Samsung has for a far cheaper price

Does not matter these folks have 5 figures invested Apl eco over the years..Android not an option
 
That's a bit disingenuous. Apl forces a walled garden and proprietary connectors. They take peoples like of an OS and eco and in essence abuse that. Lock-in is fine IF you provide, however IF you don't Provide its sort of a prison. Apl changed the way they do things, so much so today's apl does not seem to care about continuity of promises in essence made...look at Mac Pro over $4000 for a dead end evidently. That's a prison not choice, people stay because of the outrageous investment and the promises of the past..they call that apl apologists.
Or maybe I am simply a very happy and satisfied Apple customer. I stay because Apple continues to offer me the very same thing which drew me to the Apple ecosystem in the first place - an integrated computing solution which just works right out of the box.

To me, it all boils down to what compromises you are willing to make. Yes, on their own, Apple maps can't compare to google maps, Siri is inferior to Google now, iCloud loses to Dropbox etc. But what Apple has been able to do is use its control over hardware, software and services to make everything work together so well that the end result is more than the sum of its parts.

My garden is not walled; it’s well protected, nourished, watered & kept in blossom by the best gardeners in the world. If there’s a weed, they wack it. If there’s a bad bug, they squash it. Everytime I walk in my garden I’m in awe of its palette & synchronicity. I’ve seen the neighbor's garden, and I am far less impressed. Sure there are way more flowers in the garden, but its formation is a mess & the lack of a fence just allows any dog to piss in it, weed to penetrate it & makes it harder to maintain.

How about killing airports or 5K Apl standalone displays? Promises in essence unmet . What about Tim's pipeline statements in 2014? then unmet.

Once your family invests 5 figures in Apl products , you are sort of stuck when they switch gears on you...that's not choice that is necessity created by Apl for Apl. I would buy your "willing to shell out good money for apl products" if it wasn't for the nefarious lock-in they exhibit, purposely shunning standards... purposely forcing developers to pay too much, purposely restricting features, and purposely designing in outrageous margins far beyond the industry to those trapped by proprietary and/or walled garden lock-in

Like I said, you win some, you lose some. At least with Apple, I have the option of paying for nice stuff. I mentioned above that I desire an integrated computing solution which just works right out of the box, and the alternatives (windows and android) just don't do that for me.

People can and do leave, however Apl makes it very hard to do so, by design. Very simple exanple ...you can run windows on a Mac, not Mac on Windows . Why? Lock- in.
Apple uses software to differentiate its hardware to justify higher prices. Microsoft is in the sales of software. A copy of Windows running on a Mac is still a copy of Windows sold, and money in Microsoft's coffers.

I too can ask you the same thing. Apple offers annual software updates and its iWork's suite for free. Why doesn't Microsoft give away Windows and office for free?

Different business models means each company does things differently. Apple isn't perfect, but Microsoft is no saint either.

So much of this "willing to shell out good money for apl products" is simply an ongoing cost being trapped in that eco as world blows by you.

Can you imaging if Microsoft made it so Windows programs cannot run on Mac? yet instead they (MSFT) legitimise the Emoji bar to satisfy office users on Macs with emoji bar..What did apl ever give? A lousy Itunes client and a security issue when they stopped supporting various Apl API's on Windows...without notice. All about lock-in.

The average family under Apl could save so much money by getting off the hamster wheel for good ,and never look back.

I was a Windows PC user for 20 years before switching to a Mac and I haven't looked back since.

My Apple devices cost more upfront, no doubt, but they have more than paid for themselves in the form of greater productivity and fewer problems overall.

I could save some money by getting out of the Apple ecosystem no doubt, but I don't think the hit to the user experience would be worth it. Simply put - you couldn't pay me enough to switch.
 
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When the time comes I'll go with 64GB. There's no way I need 256GB of storage on my phone and nor will most normal people. Back up your photo's once in a while, folks.
 
On par? They have double the CPU of the nearest competitor, with half the cores, nearly half the clockspeed, and half the RAM. The iPhone 6S had double the NAND read/write performance of the nearest competitor, whilst the iPhone 7 nearly tripled that. This is an in-house design, in-house CPU, in-house OS... not to mention the best aftersales support.
And if all you consider to be 'innovation' is a device without bezels, well that'll inevitably be in the pipeline, along with removing the home button (the IP7 is the first step towards that).
So what do you honestly think would be more likely to happen in the next few years: Apple releases a phone that gets rid of a few bezels, or the nearest competitor gets anywhere close to hardware performance, running an OS that isn't a resource-hungry dog?
Apple have done all of the hard work. The next step is just a few aesthetic changes, then all the self-gratifying whiners around here will be appeased. :rolleyes:
I guess your observations are right, but the "we're not in a specs race"-talk is and was just arrogance.
While I applaud the CPU/NAND innovation that you mention, so much effort went into ludicrous stuff or repairing complications caused by themselves (getting rid of a headphone port in favor of...a haptic engine that already existed, a zero-travel homebutton that is no improvement over a true button with VirtualHome installed, AirPod/CarPlay solutions relying on bluetooth before BT stack is rock solid - which it still isn't, numerous SW updates that repair 1 bug and cause 2 others)
And I can't help it but it appears that the iconic design people have been staring out of the window for 5 years when it comes to iPhone. A single MacBook Pro and a pair of AirPods - completely unacceptable for a company of this mammoth size...
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A $1500 phone would be insane, even for Apple.
Whether $100, 1000 or $10.000 it is just insane while most profits go into overdesigned buildings and headquarters, setting up music services, contracting artists, Beats radio station & headphone marketing and additional nonsense that I am not willing to pay for anymore. R&D 12 billion is marginal compared to these Apple Board adventures/hobbies. And stacking cash in tax paradises is even more insane.
 
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So if you're getting bored with your 6s, then why is it that you want the iPhone 7 to be an "S series" with the same physical design that you've been requesting on previous threads? Your signature states "Waiting for iPhone 7s Jet white." So if you were bored with your 6S, wouldn't you want a complete redesign?

Because the rumors are serving more and more that the next iPhone Will have significant changes across the board.
Yeah i will definitely buy this special iPhone over the regular iPhone 7S Plus
 
Apple makes the most profit precisely because they make great products which people are willing to shell out good money for.

There is no trickery or witchcraft here.

So when Tim Cook says something is magical it isn't? If it is magical could it be black magic?
 
Everyone will be very disappointed when none of this happens. These rumors don't even make any sense. Why would they get rid of the home button when they just designed a new solid one for the iPhone 7 to just use for this one year? I don't buy it. And also 16gb was the base storage for so many years I forget. They aren't bumping the base storage again just because they feel like being generous. I'm still waiting to hear some good rational rumors...
The homebutton of the 7 is an evolutionary step towards an on/in-screen button. Because it is without moving parts and using the taptic engine /force touch it appears you are pressing a real button. So the next logical step is to embed this in-screen while you' ll still have the feeling it is a real button.
For iphone 8/x it raises 2 questions:
1. Will the the virtual button be really flat just like the rest of the screen or will it still have a "dimple" so you can feel it? This part of the screen will still be able to display content ofcourse.
2. Will there still be touchid embedded in the virtual button?
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I believe Apple is trying to make a big splash with this device, so I do anticipate some eye-popping stuff. I think the OLED display, bezel-less steel/glass design are going to happen. I would be pleased to see a further reduction of the side bezels (in addition to the expected near elimination of the bottom and top bezels). I'm also a believer of the recent '3D-sensing' front camera, which I think will enable a multitude of interesting new features.

If these were the only upgrades, Apple has a huge hit on their hands, even at a premium price point. It would be the biggest upgrade a single generation iPhone has received. But surely there will be the usual camera upgrade (or even possibly a "super resolution" camera as illustrated in this rumor/patent http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...cameras-display-integrated-light-sensor-tech- ) and a new A11 chip. Inductive wireless charging will also make its debut to the iPhone.
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I think this year we'll see inductive charging, but I would bet for Apple its a precursor for true resonant wireless charging to come down the road when they feel like it's truly ready.

Yes, the sidebezels will really have to go, the 2.5d front glass has a slight curve, i hope the new oled screens will at least have the same curve for asthetic reasons. So less curved than a s7, but enough to be really edge to edge.

Something like this(just the part of the screen)
iphone-8-concept.jpg


Or, a short curve like this

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the word STARTING PRICE was never stated in any of those articles. When somebody says UP TO that means thats likely what the price goes up to...that does not mean STARTING PRICE.

otherwise it would state so..

This is really starting to get embarrassing that you don't know the difference. I suggest you just stop posting about this. Just making you look worse.

You have totally lost track about what you've posted, and what your argument was about. Your the one that looks embarrassing because you've changed the goal posts and twisted your argument to such an extent it makes no sense what so ever.. the old I never said that, erm yes you did.. then the old I'll ignore what I said and change my argument.. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Anyway I've shown you more then enough proof to prove you wrong.

As I said before, it's pointless arguing with you because you just keep changing what you've said.
 
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When the time comes I'll go with 64GB. There's no way I need 256GB of storage on my phone and nor will most normal people. Back up your photo's once in a while, folks.

Some of my friends and colleagues with the 128 gb iPhone 7 are already close to busting the storage limit. There's no way they can downgrade to 64 gb. So the next time they upgrade their iPhone, it's likely the 256 gb model for them.
 
The homebutton of the 7 is an evolutionary step towards an on/in-screen button. Because it is without moving parts and using the taptic engine /force touch it appears you are pressing a real button. So the next logical step is to embed this in-screen while you' ll still have the feeling it is a real button.
For iphone 8/x it raises 2 questions:
1. Will the the virtual button be really flat just like the rest of the screen or will it still have a "dimple" so you can feel it? This part of the screen will still be able to display content ofcourse.
2. Will there still be touchid embedded in the virtual button?
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Yes, the sidebezels will really have to go, the 2.5d front glass has a slight curve, i hope the new oled screens will at least have the same curve for asthetic reasons. So less curved than a s7, but enough to be really edge to edge.

Something like this(just the part of the screen)
iphone-8-concept.jpg


Or, a short curve like this

1_26750.jpg

All the curved glass screens accomplish is light reflection. It make the screen hard to read. I see no point in using a curved glass screen. I don't think I would EVER buy one. I tried a Samsung, and absolutely hated it.
 
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