Or you know, just use generation numbers or release year to distinguish it, just like every MacBook and most iPads.
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Difference is, the 5S design was still remembered fondly at the time, embedded in memory as a great design, and had only been used twice. Shift focus to the iPhone 6 design being used ad nauseam 5 times though.. that's caused some real fatigue with this form factor and is beyond lazy and complacent for a company with the reputation, resources and R&D budget of Apple.
Yeah surprise surprise, Apple is not aiming at lowering its profits by cannibalizing their own products.
I get it now! Your dad cares so much about how phones look... and that's why you care so much about how phones look!
Hehe I'm just playin' man. Don't get bent out of shape. I'm just havin' fun
Apple obviously thinks someone will buy this new SE.
It could go one of two ways:
1. If this SE has the current processor and modern cameras... and it's $400... I think it'll sell well.
2. It could be a complete disaster for Apple. And the people who have $400 to spend on a phone don't want an "old looking" phone so they buy Google Pixels or Samsung A-series instead.
I'm leaning towards point 1
You're obviously heavily leaning towards point 2
Why don't we let it play out for a while? The phone hasn't even been formally announced yet!
There's only so much we can say here. I'll be around.
I get it now! Your dad cares so much about how phones look... and that's why you care so much about how phones look!
Hehe I'm just playin' man. Don't get bent out of shape. I'm just havin' fun
Apple obviously thinks someone will buy this new SE.
It could go one of two ways:
1. If this SE has the current processor and modern cameras... and it's $400... I think it'll sell well.
2. It could be a complete disaster for Apple. And the people who have $400 to spend on a phone don't want an "old looking" phone so they buy Google Pixels or Samsung A-series instead.
I'm leaning towards point 1
You're obviously heavily leaning towards point 2
Why don't we let it play out for a while? The phone hasn't even been formally announced yet!
There's only so much we can say here. I'll be around.
Heheh ok fair point. Wrt to dad, I was more surprised because I thought he didn't care about phone designs as long as they are cheap and can do the job. I never stopped caring since the olden days of Nokia
I don't doubt it's gonna sell. What disappoints is that the bigger Apple gets, the poorer/scarcer their new designs become and the design language disparity between budget, midlevel and flagship devices couldn't be further apart.
The description on the danish Apple shop has not changed yet. -still says iPhone 7 and 8 only.
thats becoming a tired old argument, and the OS is becoming pretty expensive on that basis.
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You would base your purchase decision on what it's name is rather than what it is?
You should see his wife, “Most Beautiful Lady in the World Smith”.
they can afford new molds, but the price wouldn’t be $399. It’s gonna be much higher.
Sure, keep peddling their narrative as if it means something. Somehow Jobs managed to jam-pack new phones with new tech and new designs AND keep the price the same. Those were the days.
Yes, if there’s one thing Steve was known for, it’s low prices.
Irrelevant answer. iPhone 3GS, 4, 4S and 5 all had the same price at launch, whereas the upgrades in tech YOY were remarkable without an equivalent price hike.
Please stick to the point.
You’re comparing a fledgling product with a mature one. Of course 3GS and 4 had major additions: there was a ton missing on the original version.
A ton missing from whose viewpoint? The smartphone was also a mature product if you took e.g. Nokia's or Blackberry's point of view, but Steve kept pushing the envelope forward with stuff no-one had ever seen before. Was anyone missing a retina screen when they didn't even know existed? Don't forget to consider the wider context in 2010, what the competition was offering, and what tech was available.
Project that to now. Apple has more resources, more access to tech, tougher competition, and a wider reach. There's a plausible need for a smaller, modern form factor phone that no other OEM is really catering to. That's an awesome challenge for Apple to capture that market with a new design. Instead, they're regurgitating a 2014 phone for the fifth time in a row. That's what Blackberry would have done because navel gazing got the best of them. Maybe not in a year or two, but this kind of complacency is unforgiving in the long run (and damn boring in the short run).
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Yes. And yet: it had no 3G. It had an awful camera. Its RAM was far too low. Lots of things that needed to be fixed regardless of what others thought.
Was anyone expecting you could make breathtaking night shots with a tiny sensor before Google, others, and eventually Apple showed it could be done?
And yet there’s just not as much left to do. It’s a really mature, damn good product. Steve would be moving on to the next thing by now. He was excited to push the iPhone envelope when it was young; by the iPhone 4’s launch, he really cared more about the iPad.
You also brought up the iPhone 4S and 5, but he wasn’t even around for those launches.
Could be.
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Why fix something that isn’t broke? The 6 to 8 iPhone size is a great design.
I agree for the most part. The 3GS had big room for improvement. Still, stuff like FaceTime blew people out of the water. It was about more than just parity with the market. Wrt to 4S and 5, I presume he signed off these devices in advance, word on the grapevine was that products were signed off a couple of generations in advance.
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Sure, Nokia 3110 was a great design too, why change for the sake of change and not leave mobile phones like that.
Am I the only one who thinks the SE name makes a lot of sense?
SE just means Special Edition. Special Edition 2 doesn’t make a lot of sense, it is a special edition phone.. you could simply distinguish it from the last SE by saying it’s SE 2020.
I also liked the idea of the iPhone 9, to fill in the gap and for it to be a continuation of the 6/7/8 series due to the bezels/touch id but I guess I agree that some people would view it as older than the X etc in that case even if it has more modern internals.
SE just means Special Edition. Special Edition 2 doesn’t make a lot of sense, it is a special edition phone.. you could simply distinguish it from the last SE by saying it’s SE 2020.
I also liked the idea of the iPhone 9, to fill in the gap and for it to be a continuation of the 6/7/8 series due to the bezels/touch id but I guess I agree that some people would view it as older than the X etc in that case even if it has more modern internals.
It's a weird feeling you know.. Feeling let down with this luckluster iPhone. I really hoped that they'll do something new with the beautiful iPhone 5 design, but they decided to recycle old product again. This crap should be like 200 dollars with the base 64GB storage option.
So was that chamfered design “leak” pic a few weeks back debunked in the end?
I hope someone is there by your side to wipe the tears away.
It is true, only Apple can regurgitate a 6-year old design and still convince the masses that it is special and cheap (and small!)
People LOVE that design. You don't have to buy if you don't want it.
Not everyone wants the newest, greatest high tech amazing design there is. I know plenty of people who still own 6/6s/7/8 who are perfectly content with touch id instead of face id. Most people probably wouldn’t even care. It would still trump over the more modern looking android budget phones simply due to it’s brand.
Y’all see what’s happening here? They’re making people curious, which creates more attention (people talk about the name)