iPhone 8 Screen Protector Updated With 'iPhone SE' Compatibility on Apple's Online Store

[Janichsan]

I know some people will be upset that this new "SE" won't be as small as the original SE...

But look at the sizes everyone else is selling at this price-point... Apple still makes one of the smallest phones around:

As this "small" phone is still unwieldily large compared to the original SE, that's completely missing the point.

 

[otternonsense]

As this "small" phone is still unwieldily large compared to the original SE, that's completely missing the point.

Come on. It's not about ergonomics. It's about which parts Tim could pick from the bin to dish out a "new" device.

 

[MrGuder]

My iPhone 6s is still working perfectly and very snappy I might add. New battery about 8 months ago and battery health at 94%. Does everything I need. For me best iPhone ever. I still prefer Touch ID, super quick and always works.

 

[otternonsense]

My iPhone 6s is still working perfectly and very snappy I might add. New battery about 8 months ago and battery health at 94%. Does everything I need. For me best iPhone ever.

Indeed.. and it still had the headphone jack!

 

[chucker23n1]

It is true, only Apple can regurgitate a 6-year old design and still convince the masses that it is special and cheap (and small!)

Why does a design that worked fine need to change? Maybe “the masses” are “convinced” because it isn’t a bad product?

 

[otternonsense]

Why does a design that worked fine need to change? Maybe “the masses” are “convinced” because it isn’t a bad product?

1. Along the same logic, why did we ever move past the iPhone 3G design? The masses liked it
2. I don't think you give the "masses" enough credit as consumers. Newness still drives people.

 

[chucker23n1]

1. Along the same logic, why did we ever move past the iPhone 3G design? The masses liked it

And the 4 design was better.

(I would argue one of the best. But it also wasn't sustainable for today's camera, so…)

2. I don't think you give the "masses" enough credit as consumers. Newness still drives people.

If anything, isn't that a critique of consumers?
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You sound like you are forced to defend Apple's inability to produce new designs.

It's very far down on my list of things to criticize about Apple.

I would like some more colors. I would also like a better grip. I also don't like how wobbly the 11 is on a table.

But in everyday use? I don't think about that at all. The hardware just disappears, which is the entire point and exactly what Jobs and Ive wanted.

 

[mag33]

You sound like you are forced to defend Apple's inability to produce new designs.

Wait for the 12 if you want new design and stop whining. This is a budget phone for people that dont care about looks but practicality.

 

[kjell]

The description on the danish Apple shop has not changed yet. -still says iPhone 7 and 8 only.

Apple changed it back to '8 & 7' on US store

 

[M3gatron]

It's amusing to see that 3 different phone generations are compatible with the same screen protector.
Talk about low effort when it comes to design.

 

[otternonsense]

Wait for the 12 if you want new design and stop whining. This is a budget phone for people that dont care about looks but practicality.

I'm ok with the 11 Pro for now, thanks. When did looks and practicality veer away from one another? Isn't it still Apple we're talking about? All this "if you don't like it don't buy it derp" talk does is defend design mediocrity.

It's amusing to see that 3 different phone generations are compatible with the same screen protector.
Talk about low effort when it comes to design.

I think it's closer to 4 actually.

 

[glambutnerdy]

It's amusing to see that 3 different phone generations are compatible with the same screen protector.
Talk about low effort when it comes to design.

what should Apple do stick antennas out of the new device? innovative and unique 😍👏🏻

 

[raybo]

It's amusing to see that 3 different phone generations are compatible with the same screen protector.
Talk about low effort when it comes to design.

Nobody seemed to mind that the VW Beetle was essentially the same for decades. It was the most popular car of its time. Great design is timeless.
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A ton missing from whose viewpoint? The smartphone was also a mature product if you took e.g. Nokia's or Blackberry's point of view, but Steve kept pushing the envelope forward with stuff no-one had ever seen before. Was anyone missing a retina screen when they didn't even know existed? Don't forget to consider the wider context in 2010, what the competition was offering, and what tech was available.

Project that to now. Apple has more resources, more access to tech, tougher competition, and a wider reach. There's a plausible need for a smaller, modern form factor phone that no other OEM is really catering to. That's an awesome challenge for Apple to capture that market with a new design. Instead, they're regurgitating a 2014 phone for the fifth time in a row. That's what Blackberry would have done because navel gazing got the best of them. Maybe not in a year or two, but this kind of complacency is unforgiving in the long run (and damn boring in the short run).

The iPhone is, besides a phone, a selling platform. It's easier to sell on a bigger screen. Websites and games are more complex than before, better UX demands a bigger screen. One big reason Apple discontinued the clickwheel iPod is that it didn't connect to the internet, the place where people buy stuff. The 4" screen is now obsolete, and the tried and true 4.7" phone needs no re-design.

 

[M3gatron]

what should Apple do stick antennas out of the new device? innovative and unique 😍👏🏻

Shrink the bezels to 2017 Android level. Something like a One Plus 5T would look amazing with iOS onboard.
Why keep those huge bezels for so long when nobody else does it? It's just extreme laziness.
Multiple Android OEMs have also successfully embedded the fingerprint scanner in the power button so from a technical point of view apple could very easy retire that big front fingerprint scanner and just use gestures on all their new phones. Simple and consistent.
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Nobody seemed to mind that the VW Beetle was essentially the same for decades. It was the most popular car of its time. Great design is timeless.

Well the VW Beetle was completely discontinued because it's design hasn't been popular for decades now. So I don't see the relevance of this example, especially as it's a car, so something entirely different.

 

[i-Liam]

It's amusing to see that 3 different phone generations are compatible with the same screen protector.
Talk about low effort when it comes to design.

To me it shows the popularity of the design and price range. I see more people about using a 6/7/8 style iphone, compared to the newer iphone x onwards phones.

 

[bobob]

I don't think you give the "masses" enough credit as consumers. Newness still drives people.

You contradicted your own point in just two short sentences.

 

[glambutnerdy]

Shrink the bezels to 2017 Android level. Something like a One Plus 5T would look amazing with iOS onboard.
Why keep those huge bezels for so long when nobody else does this? It's just extreme laziness.

It’s not laziness, the purpose isn’t making it into an all new smaller device. The entire purpose is budget, and them recycling the older phones saves up on a ton of money so it doesn’t end up costing like €700 which would make zero sense considering you have options like the XR and the iPhone 11 for around that price range. The whole purpose is budget.

Besides, a new design in itself for just this device is a dumb idea. Apple is not Android, it’s its own brand. You can immediately tell an iPhone from other phones from it’s 6/7/8 design or the X/XS/11. To create an all new design for just an SE phone would just confuse, it makes no sense.

 

[M3gatron]

To me it shows the popularity of the design and price range. I see more people about using a 6/7/8 style iphone, compared to the newer iphone x onwards phones.

Well of course more people are using 6/7/8 style iphone, it makes sense when the 6 was launched in 2014.
Also iphone users don't really have a lot of choice in terms of phone designs. It's either the iphone 6 design or the iphone x(which is also the most expensive).

 

[B4U]

I know some people will be upset that this new "SE" won't be as small as the original SE...

But look at the sizes everyone else is selling at this price-point... Apple still makes one of the smallest phones around:

Dear judge,

Look at all those executive criminals stealing millions from the working people.
I just stole a loaf of bread from the grocery store.

😓
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Is there someone still selling iPhone 6/6S ?

Maybe not, but that does not stop people already with those phones from wanting to buy the product, right?

 

[M3gatron]

It’s not laziness, the purpose isn’t making it into an all new smaller device. The entire purpose is budget, and them recycling the older phones saves up on a ton of money so it doesn’t end up costing like €700 which would make zero sense considering you have options like the XR and the iPhone 11 for around that price range. The whole purpose is budget.

It's is laziness. They've been recycling the iphone 6 design for 5 years now, it absurd to keep doing it.

Besides, a new design in itself for just this device is a dumb idea. Apple is not Android, it’s its own brand.

It's a perfectly good idea. Where did I say Apple is Android?

You can immediately tell an iPhone from other phones from it’s 6/7/8 design or the X/XS/11. To create an all new design for just an SE phone would just confuse, it makes no sense.

That's because of how old apple's designs are.
Yeah you are right, maybe Apple/ios users would be confused by a newly launched phone that looks modern even if it's budget oriented. They need to realize every time they tun on the phone, why it's budget oriented. Yeah that's much better.

 

[chucker23n1]

It's is laziness. They been recycling the iphone 6 design for 5 years now, it absurd to keep doing.

Why? What's wrong with it?

Should the Mac stop having an Apple menu in the top left?

 

[macduke]

I don't know what would be more confusing... iPhone 9 or iPhone SE-but-not-the-original-iPhone-SE.

iPhone 9 SE, lol.

 

[lkalliance]

Irrelevant answer. iPhone 3GS, 4, 4S and 5 all had the same price at launch, whereas the upgrades in tech YOY were remarkable without an equivalent price hike.

Please stick to the point.

Those phones were sold subsidized, today's phones aren't. You're also talking about early in the development curve. Lots of low-hanging fruit to improve upon, easy to make huge strides in a short time. The development curve has flattened out...much more difficult now to wring new improvements out of one year's development now.

 

[lkalliance]

I don't get the complaints about the design. This isn't their new flagship, it's the use of existing molds and (to some extent) parts to pack a mostly up-to-date phone into a smaller price tag. I would save the design critiques for the next flagship iteration.

I'm also not bothered by (potentially, perhaps evidently) the re-use of the "SE" label. By now, most of the time when referring to phones, I (anecdotally) just hear "iPhone" or "Android." I rarely ask (or get asked) which specific model I have.

Why bring it out now under the global circumstances? Because it's been developed, I'm sure the tooling, packaging, parts procurement, marketing, had all been done. Might as well: they won't go bad on the shelves. The rumors have them potentially not delaying the iPhone 12 launch, so it makes sense to clear the decks of the SE to not divide attention. What are they going to do at this point, just not launch it? If any model makes sense to release now, it's the budget model.

I've been looking forward to this model for a while. Funny, two years ago I would have said no thanks, I am not a fan of the 6-era design. I'm not really a super-fan of the standard 5-era design, for that matter. I miss the 5c, which was the perfect design. Anyway, for several years I went without a case until my current SE (I found the 5-era design uncomfortable to hold, besides the 5c). Once I've got a case, what does it matter what the design is?

 

[AnthonyHarris]

It's amusing to see that 3 different phone generations are compatible with the same screen protector.
Talk about low effort when it comes to design.

It's really not about low effort. People want a more affordable iPhone to purchase.

Retooling factories costs money. Getting teams to sit and redesign a product costs money. If they pump R&D into a new design it isn't going to be affordable.

The choice? Buy it or don't. 🤷🏽‍♂️