Iphone 8 struggling with only 3GB of ram?

[Oliveira46]

Get a Note 8, no lag and overall an excellent phone. I had been using the 6s plus and 7 plus the past 2 years and wanted to try out Android again since the new iPhones aren't that interesting and so far Note 8 has been awesome.

I'm sorry, but the note is 1 month old.. How do you tell me that's not going to start slowing down after a couple of months or 1 year like happens with Galaxy S8 (same hardware).

My Android was very fast when I bought it... can't say the same now. A sage age iphone 6S runs rings around any Android of his time.

 

[jamesrick80]

I'm sorry, but the note is 1 month old.. How do you tell me that's not going to start slowing down after a couple of months or 1 year like happens with Galaxy S8 (same hardware).

My Android was very fast when I bought it... can't say the same now. A sage age iphone 6S runs rings around any Android of his time.

The S8 or the S8 plus never really ever slowed down and the software/security updates have only improved them. Mine runs like a charm. Sorry, but Here's your proof:

 

[44267547]

Yes there is. There is a definitive, right answer to how you should allow iOS to multitask and manage apps - the way it was designed, and the way that has been proven time and time again to be most efficient. You’re simply choosing the wrong answer because you’re an illogical human (like the rest of us)

That's because your first post was ill-cited. But in reply, no one will manage their iPhone the same way based off of what someone else says or what article indicates proving otherwise. As Already stated and reiterated three different times in this thread, your conflating what you believe is to be accurate, but somebody else is preferred method may work Best in their situation, based off usage and statistics. I Could make the same argument about your post being illogical contrary to what my results are produced off my iPhone results with battery life and iOS. It's not my opinion, it's not a fact, it's simply the way I choose to manage my iPhone which is never given me any type of concern or issue otherwise with multitasking and simple task management.

But the simple fact of it is, you telling me I'm choosing the wrong answer, also indicates to me that your view point is myopic Beyond understanding someone else's preferences. That doesn't make it illogical, it just means you don't agree with it. If you don't agree with it, then I can make the same argument about your statement being not logical in a sense of how others have agreed with me as well. Am I right?

 

[MrX8503]

Why would the iPhone 8 perform worse than an iPhone 6s/7? It doesn't take a genius to conclude that the issue is iOS11.

Once iOS11 is fully optimized, the 8 will be the fastest phone.

 

[Dented]

That's because your first post was ill-cited. But in reply, no one will manage their iPhone the same way based off of what someone else says or what article indicates proving otherwise. As Already stated and reiterated three different times in this thread, your conflating what you believe is to be accurate, but somebody else is preferred method may work Best in their situation, based off usage and statistics. I Could make the same argument about your post being illogical contrary to what my results are produced off my iPhone results with battery life and iOS. It's not my opinion, it's not a fact, it's simply the way I choose to manage my iPhone which is never given me any type of concern or issue otherwise with multitasking and simple task management.

But the simple fact of it is, you telling me I'm choosing the wrong answer, also indicates to me that your view point is myopic Beyond understanding someone else's preferences. That doesn't make it illogical, it just means you don't agree with it. If you don't agree with it, then I can make the same argument about your statement being not logical in a sense of how others have agreed with me as well. Am I right?

My first post was perfectly fine and said the exact same thing as my second. Carrying on this illogical argument serves no purpose - there is no use case in which needlessly killing apps results in anything but wasted user time, wasted battery and greater operational delays while the OS reloads things, which is why it is objectively the WRONG thing to do, but again - you’re human. So am I. We all find ways to justify nonsensical preferences and foibles to ourselves, this is one of yours.

 

[Oliveira46]

The S8 or the S8 plus never really ever slowed down and the software/security updates have only improved them. Mine runs like a charm. Sorry, but Here's your proof:

I'm sorry but there's no proof in that video because all it shows is a head to head between 2 wiped devices. TOday I wipe my laggy android and it is perfect again... until I load him up through the months


Wiped Android all work fine, but with the coming months, they slow down and start to crash until you wipe them again. Sure it does happen to ios too, but it used to happen to a much much lesser degree.

All that "oh my android is as fast as new and never lags" is pure BS, I hear that story since Android was launched. Been there, done that.... doesn't work. If iOS is the same now, then screw apple... :/

For context:
(I use my phone for work, before Android I had the discontinued Blackberry10 OS. Those BB10 devices were equiped with the acient Snapdragon S4, and Snapdragon 800. They ran like a swiss watch compared to the 810 I have on my Android (stock) that lags everywhere, my buddys 1 year older iphone 6 runs so much better... I wanted to try iOS full time because I hear great things about performance and consistency, but I arrive here and people are raging about poor performance)

 

[44267547]

My first post was perfectly fine and said the exact same thing as my second. Carrying on this illogical argument serves no purpose - there is no use case in which needlessly killing apps results in anything but wasted user time, wasted battery and greater operational delays while the OS reloads things, which is why it is objectively the WRONG thing to do, but again - you’re human. So am I. We all find ways to justify nonsensical preferences and foibles to ourselves, this is one of yours.

No, your first post did not state that verbatim, Which is evident why you are regurgitating the same information. Truthfully, your counter argument is illogical, Because it's turned into semantics in the aspect of how I (And others) don't have to or willingly treat our devices the same, because there's nothing concrete that says anything has to be coordinated with iOS. . Regardless of what you believe, It's just you don't agree with my correlation or viewpoints, as I don't agree with yours. So this is a situation where this discussion is exhausted and It doesn't make a difference to continue onward with these banters, as I mentioned before, being myopic to others ideations makes this a one sided discussion, which it doesn't work That way to portray yourself otherwise in a two sided conversation.

 

[IGI2]

My first post was perfectly fine and said the exact same thing as my second. Carrying on this illogical argument serves no purpose - there is no use case in which needlessly killing apps results in anything but wasted user time, wasted battery and greater operational delays while the OS reloads things, which is why it is objectively the WRONG thing to do, but again - you’re human. So am I. We all find ways to justify nonsensical preferences and foibles to ourselves, this is one of yours.

Don't give up Dented, I believe that reason can prevail after all. Keep trying!

 

[Dented]

No, your first post did not state that verbatim, Which is evident why you are regurgitating the same information.

I’m not going to get into a discussion on the moderation, suffice to say literally the only substantive change I made to my second message was to make clear that we are ALL illogical humans, since that was in no way meant as an insult (and I’m genuinely staggered that anyone could take it as such).

Truthfully, your counter argument is illogical, Because it's turned into semantics in the aspect of how I (And others) don't have to or willingly treat our devices the same, because there's nothing concrete that says anything has to be coordinated with iOS. . Regardless of what you believe, It's just you don't agree with my correlation or viewpoints, as I don't agree with yours.

I’ve re-read this a few times and it still makes no sense to me. This is not a matter of semantics, or correlation of “viewpoints”. There is one truth, one objective reality, one set of facts here:

1. Manually closing apps draws more power, not less.
2. Manually closing apps slows down the device overall, making it necessary for apps to be reloaded.
3. Since manually closing apps serves no practical purpose, it is therefore a waste of the users time.

There is no grey area or matter of opinion here, these are facts, pure and simple. You have every right to choose to ignore those facts, but it is unquestionably *ilogical* to do so.

So this is a situation where this discussion is exhausted and It doesn't make a difference to continue onward with these banters, as I mentioned before, being myopic to others ideations makes this a one sided discussion, which it doesn't work That way to portray yourself otherwise in a two sided conversation.

By all means use your imagination. Believe what you like. Have all manner of “ideations” about how iOS and iPhones work for you. Just accept that when there is factual, objective knowledge that contradicts your ideation, it’s still wrong.

 

[daleski75]

Closing apps is bad

I’m not going to get into a discussion on the moderation, suffice to say literally the only substantive change I made to my second message was to make clear that we are ALL illogical humans, since that was in no way meant as an insult (and I’m genuinely staggered that anyone could take it as such).



I’ve re-read this a few times and it still makes no sense to me. This is not a matter of semantics, or correlation of “viewpoints”. There is one truth, one objective reality, one set of facts here:

1. Manually closing apps draws more power, not less.
2. Manually closing apps slows down the device overall, making it necessary for apps to be reloaded.
3. Since manually closing apps serves no practical purpose, it is therefore a waste of the users time.

There is no grey area or matter of opinion here, these are facts, pure and simple. You have every right to choose to ignore those facts, but it is unquestionably *ilogical* to do so.



By all means use your imagination. Believe what you like. Have all manner of “ideations” about how iOS and iPhones work for you. Just accept that when there is factual, objective knowledge that contradicts your ideation, it’s still wrong.

Totally agree with this and even Phil Schiller or another chap very high up within Apple also stated that constantly closing down apps draws more power, uses more cpu, and is basically pointless.

 

[Gab224]

For a flagship priced phone we should be looking at a minimum of 4GB RAM. iOS 11 does run well on my 6S however which I believe has only 2GB RAM so I wouldn’t worry too much. Apple’s software is always much better optimised than Android OS.

This has changed in the end of 2017. I have an iPhone X, and I tried to play a game that not all phones can handle, and the phone was very hot and laggy especially with PUBG, and Fortnite. When I go to my One Plus it runs it with no problem also my battery doesn't drain like on the X that's done in 5 hours of heavy use. Oxygen OS much cleaner than IOS.

 

[IGI2]

This has changed in the end of 2017. I have an iPhone X, and I tried to play a game that not all phones can handle, and the phone was very hot and laggy especially with PUBG, and Fortnite. When I go to my One Plus it runs it with no problem also my battery doesn't drain like on the X that's done in 5 hours of heavy use. Oxygen OS much cleaner than IOS.

Could you record your gameplay on both phones and upload it to YouTube?

 

[Smartass]

Why would the iPhone 8 perform worse than an iPhone 6s/7? It doesn't take a genius to conclude that the issue is iOS11.

Once iOS11 is fully optimized, the 8 will be the fastest phone.

and when would that be? We are approaching 11.3, how much time do they possibly need?

 

[BLUEBLASTER]

some videos are coming out where the note 8 is beating the new iphone in multitasking. Is this due to the issue of IOS 11 not being able to help with 3GB of ram? having a samsung/android phone beating the iphone in multitasking was seen as impossible or unheard of. Should the ram be increased?

Well the 8 only has 2GB of Ram the 8 Plus has 3GB but neither should have any issues with multitasking.

 

[MrX8503]

and when would that be? We are approaching 11.3, how much time do they possibly need?

Who knows. People are saying 11.3 is pretty fast.

 

[Smartass]

Who knows. People are saying 11.3 is pretty fast.

it is fast. In how it works and how it drains the battery

 

[MrX8503]

it is fast. In how it works and how it drains the battery

People are saying their batteries are lasting longer. Longer than the S9

 

[Smartass]

People are saying their batteries are lasting longer. Longer than the S9

Maybe newer phones, but Apple still doesnt want us to have iphone 6, so they're forcing us again to buy a new phone by making bigger battery consumption that would probably be needed.

 

[Vermifuge]

Maybe newer phones, but Apple still doesnt want us to have iphone 6, so they're forcing us again to buy a new phone by making bigger battery consumption that would probably be needed.

what are you talking about? My 6 has been just fine since the update.

 

[Smartass]

what are you talking about? My 6 has been just fine since the update.

well my battery consumption sky-rocketed after 11.3 update.

 

[Vermifuge]

well my battery consumption sky-rocketed after 11.3 update.

Historically when that has happened it has been a rogue 3rd party app and not the OS itself.

 

[MrX8503]

Maybe newer phones, but Apple still doesnt want us to have iphone 6, so they're forcing us again to buy a new phone by making bigger battery consumption that would probably be needed.

That's a 3.5 year old phone. If you think you'd get better support and longevity with an Android phone then be my guest.

Also $30 for a new battery is cheap.