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So wait... the plus crowd likes the plus model because of the physical size of the device? Not because of the bigger screen? If these rumors pan out, you'll be able to get the bigger screen, on a smaller frame. People I've met with plus model iPhones have always said they like the screen size, not the physical size of the device.
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what are you on about. the new model will be a 5.15 inch screen which is smaller than the current iphone 7+ 5.5 inch screen phone. So my point still stands. I never said i like big phone for the sake of it.
 
I like it, but I think it would be more likely that the dock would also be down by the on screen Home button, otherwise that is a ton of wasted real estate.

I agree. Either you will be able to fit 2 smaller-icon apps on each side of the virtual home button, or Apple will set defaults on each side (i.e. phone, messages, mail, safari, or music). I hope it's the former.
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home button better be tactile (and not just vibrations). or else this is going to be a big design fail.

The current home button is tactile AND it's just vibrations, and many (including myself) seem to like it. Why not both?
 
3 phones, 3 form factors, 3 screens? haha. Only if the 4.7 is last gen.

A more expensive smaller phone than the larger plus model? haha, ok.
 
I personally wouldn't describe a screen size of 5.15" as "similar" to the 5.5" screen of the iPhone 7+.

Lovely that it comes in an iPhone 7 form factor.

But unless it uses the *entire* 5.8" screen when watching video in landscape, I'm not sure that I want a smaller screen in my next phone.
 
Be interested to see how they release it.

My guess is bezelless ipad and iphone get released together and take up 3/4 of they keynote. 7s get a couple slides about the small upgrades. But maybe the bezel less devices get a early keynote in late summer, with a couple months wait until delivery, and the 7s is in the usually timed keynote.

Apple can't get enough supply to make Oled the only option this year, and, need a cheaper alternative anyways, so 7s it is.

2018 I'm guessing is all Oled for new releases, including a larger model, while still selling the 7s.

If Apple does go the 7s route, this is what I see happening. They'll do the same as they did with the Watch - release the new version (Series 2), while slightly bumping the specs of the old version (Series 1), then the original. So it would be iPhone 8/Plus (new), iPhone 7s/Plus (slight spec bump), iPhone 7/Plus (lowest price tier).
 
So they're taking the features of the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge from a couple of years ago and moving the side controls to the bottom. How innovative.

I may be surprised, but I don't see a $1,000+ phone making up 60% of the market if they release iPhone 7s models too. Someone who wants a big screen (and the larger screens have made up over 50% of sales) is going to have a hard time dropping from a 5.5" to a 5.1" usable screen and still paying $250 more. If you are concerned about the overall size are you really likely to pay an additional $350 over the base model for a .4" bigger screen and AMOLED display?

It would seem to me the sweet spot in pricing would be $749 - $799 which would be comparable to the Galaxy S7 Edge.
 
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So they're taking the features of the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge from a couple of years ago and moving the side controls to the bottom. How innovative.

I may be surprised, but I don't see a $1,000+ phone making up 60% of the market if they release iPhone 7s models too. Someone who wants a big screen (and the larger screens have made up over 50% of sales) is going to have a hard time dropping from a 5.5" to a 5.1" usable screen and still paying $250 more. If you are concerned about the overall size are you really likely to pay an additional $350 over the base model for a .4" bigger screen and AMOLED display?

It would seem to me the sweet spot in pricing would be $749 - $799 which would be comparable to the Galaxy S7 Edge.
Honestly i will find it hard to move down in screen size.

S8 plus at 6.2 might be my next phone if true
 
I personally wouldn't describe a screen size of 5.15" as "similar" to the 5.5" screen of the iPhone 7+.

Lovely that it comes in an iPhone 7 form factor.

But unless it uses the *entire* 5.8" screen when watching video in landscape, I'm not sure that I want a smaller screen in my next phone.
I wonder what aspect ratio the 5.8 screen would have to fit in the 4.7" dimensions (or very similar dimensions).
 
I personally wouldn't describe a screen size of 5.15" as "similar" to the 5.5" screen of the iPhone 7+.

Lovely that it comes in an iPhone 7 form factor.

But unless it uses the *entire* 5.8" screen when watching video in landscape, I'm not sure that I want a smaller screen in my next phone.

That will not be very useful. The aspect ratio will be very long so any 16:9 video will always show black bars then. Those 4:3 photos will look even more ridiculous.
 
That will not be very useful. The aspect ratio will be very long so any 16:9 video will always show black bars then. Those 4:3 photos will look even more ridiculous.
It could be useful for non-video reasons in both portrait and landscape mode (reading books, surfing the web etc), but I agree a solution for videos and movies would need to be produced as well.
 
I love the static button on my iPhone. I don't understand why people hate it so much. After awhile I forget that it's static button because it just sounds/feels like the old button.
No one that uses a 7 hates it. It's only those that haven't.
The home button on my SE feels dingy and quaint on the other hand.
Humans are scared of change
 
Looks like NEW Interaction Model heavily depend on the lower part of the screen leaving the space up MAINLY for the content...scrollable navigation bar can provide new way of interacting instead of crowding the screen with many tiny controls (though custom controls may have still to implement specific interactive UI models embedded instead of depending on the controls in the scrollable lower navigation bar)...interesting to see the way KeyBoard and lower navigation bar together(In Android there are three navigation bars).
 
Buy a iPad mini then The rumors is that the iPhone 8 got a even bigger screen then the 7+!

I had a mini. Don't use it anymore since the plus sized iPhones came out.

I'm used to the size of the Plus now. Anything smaller just feels too tiny now.

The rumored display size may be bigger but the rumored usable space is smaller which is even more of a deal breaker.

So just give me the iPhone 8 rumor in a plus sized body and I'll be happy.
 
I can hold a 9.7" iPad by the back of the chassis with one hand. I still can't use the 4.7" iPhone with one hand comfortably though, which is why I will not buy the 6/7 body style phones because one-handed use is essential for me while I'm out or simply doing other things. I hope my SE lasts me a while.

For the love of god, please just make a phone with a 4" diagonal screen and a similar flat edge chassis to the 5/5S/SE.
 
home button better be tactile (and not just vibrations). or else this is going to be a big design fail.

Why would it be a design fail? Android phones work just fine without a tactile home button. Now if it also has a back arrow and app switch key who's stealing from who this time? Not that I mind anything to make smartphones better I'm down with and having the back arrow at the bottom of the handset definitely makes navigating easier!
 
Hard to believe that they intend to sell their old bezel phones far into 2018 - and probably at an again increased price.
 
will have measurements similar to the 4.7-inch iPhone, allowing for one-handed operation.

If the 4.7" iPhone was a one-handed device, the original iPhone would have been 4.7".


It will feature a display similar in size to the 5.5-inch iPhone, but in a 4.7-inch package.

The 5.15 inch screen is "similar in size to the 5.5" because it's .05 inch closer to the 5.5 than it is to the 4.7? How does that make any sense? Why wouldn't you say the actual truth, that it's pretty much exactly halfway between the 4.7 and 5.5 inch phones...
[doublepost=1487271467][/doublepost]One of the big reasons I left android phones was because they all had touch buttons on the bezel. I kept pressing them on accident, making simply holding my phone stressful. I appreciated being able to hold iPhones confidently because they had a clean bezel with a single physical button. This sounds like Apple is going toward what I don't like.
 
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That's the million dollar question.

It's very clearly laid out in the article. It's going to be 5.15" of usable screen real estate, and the remaining 0.65" "will be the touchbar area on the bottom, which is likely going to be a dock, and potentially help with multitasking.

The only question is whether the 0.65" doubles up and adds to the 5.15" usable real estate when doing something like watching a video; but I'm 90% certain it will not, since it'll need to stay for static uses like backing out of an app, or multitasking; things the home button did. If Apple used androids method of hiding virtual buttons when in full screen, it would work - but that would be too big of a change for apple, so I'm very confident they will keep it the same, just with the touchbar instead.
 
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