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People here seem to forget Apple had a major role in the development of USB-C, and apparently also let it use some of its patets (for example the plug that fits any direction). I think it's pretty clear that they will move to USB-C, which by the way is a way better connector than Lightning. It's just a matter of time.
 
I think My next iPhone will be a Google Pixel.

What benefit to a user does a curved screen have, what benefit does another type of connecter have when in my house we have lightening chargers in every room. Will apple update iOS to once again maximise efficiency and ease of use for customers? Until then, this iPhone is my last iPhone.

Android doesn't solve a single of the problems you listed.
 
I have a Samsung S7. Not a single issue. Zero. I've had that for several months now. Great phone, great camera, great display, great battery and I don't have to go through the unbearable iTunes. I don't know if it's worse or better than an iPhone 6 or 7 and frankly I don't care. I bought it because of its VR features, but I'm more than happy besides that, in fact I would buy it again. So my experience is completely opposite than yours. And yes, I paid it 534 Euro, more than 200 less than an iPhone. That is certainly much less.

Im sure my experience was purely bad luck, but it was still enough to drive me from android, along with the lack of interesting phones right now. I loved the Note 7 up until the recall was announced. It was truly painful getting rid of that phone and then within two weeks having the screen go out on my S7 Edge was just too much. I cant say anything bad about the camera on the galaxy, but I will say that my iPhone gets WAY WAY WAY better battery life than my S7 Edge did. I have to leave my phone in a cubby at work (secure military building) so it is at idle 99% of the time I am here. My iPhone will be at 98% battery when I leave work. My S7 Edge would be between 78%-83% every day.

I know Samsung will improve their quality assurance, but for me its too late.
 
People here seem to forget Apple had a major role in the development of USB-C, and apparently also let it use some of its patets (for example the plug that fits any direction). I think it's pretty clear that they will move to USB-C, which by the way is a way better connector than Lightning. It's just a matter of time.

To what end? What possible benefit does USB-C have over Lightning in a mobile phone?

Apple has been working toward high speed wireless technology for file transfers, backups, audio, and now wireless charging. What possible purpose could switching to a new port serve? What's clear is Apple will eliminate all ports from the iPhone for the ultimate waterproofed device, with the ultimate convenience of never having to plug it into anything.

At some point, I could see the iPadPro switching to USB-C, as those devices begin to rival MacBooks in terms of storage and capability. However, there's still no compelling reason to switch to USB-C as the iPad is essentially sold as a wireless device. You can't even hook up an Ethernet cable to it. While that could change in the future, it seems unlikely.
 
Also, Apple is getting out of the peripheral business as fast as they can so no need to support cable patent business. They will soon no longer make routers, monitors, keyboards, etc. They can improve their margins by sticking to making phones, computers, and most of all through the app store.
This guy gets it. If Apple no-longer makes stuff that requires a proprietary connection and there's no money to be made then to hell with it use whatever cable is the flavour of the month.
 
They are not duplicates. They are assigned as duplicates in the basic Lightning spec assignments, and are dynamically assigned depending on which orientation the plug is inserted. The 12" iPadPro can use all 16 pins, with 8 pins on each side of the port. Sorry. Lightning is 100% assignable, and all of those pins can be assigned to anything Apple wants them to be to the extent the hardware supports it. Current configurations of Lightning do not support that (except the 12" iPP), but it does not mean Lightning is not capable of it as you suggest.

FYI: https://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/10/alleged-photos-of-apples-new-dock-connector/

Thanks for a rumor thread for iPhones, I suppose. I searched for the pinouts of the iPad Pro lightning connector to see if it was different and could find nothing to definitively prove it. I did find a reddit thread, but not sure how valid that is.

I know the pins are assignable, as the data is in the links I posted. I never suggested they could not be reassigned.
 
"The other possible scenario is that Apple replaces the current USB-A connector on the end of the iPhone Lightning cable with USB-C".

This is the much more likely scenario....
 
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lol and let's not forget that there aren't any 100w cables available! USB-C has the 100w spec, but it's not that easy to implement. Anyone that's been shopping for USB-C perpherials knows full well that it's the wild west. You never know if it's going to kill your device, not up to spec, or simply just doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong, I love USB-C, but it's very difficult finding reliable USB-C perpherals so I usually buy it direct from Apple.

They are close - my HP Laptop comes with a 90w USB-C charger. It does have an integrated cable though and it's thick.

I picked up an Anker box with 60w USBC power delivery port and use an Anker Powercore USB-C cable with the HP. Works just fine.

As always stick with high quality companies and you will have little to worry about.
 
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Finally.... Apple will be just as good as Samsung smartphones! That because it is now a "S" model! LOL! Report has it that Samsung only offered the super high definition OLED screen to Apple! Apple I guess could use software again to downgrade the resolution to it liking they did with the iPhone 6, 7 and 6+, 7+. LOL!

Apple has reported that the next generation iPhones will use the industry standard USB-C connection not the Apple proprietary USB-C that is in the current iPhones! They were finding that users including top management were having trouble with their propriety standard. LOL!
 
I also don't believe this for a second. Next to this it would be commercially very unwise to issue 3 iPhones at the same time.

Why would it be unwise commercially for Apple to have a Tim Cook approved upsell model at a $200 premium? You don't want to spend a lot? Here's the 7s/7s Plus sporting a still serviceable three-year-old design. Wait, you want a new design that sports technology you commonly find on a premium Android device? Well, here is the iPhone 8 which you'll probably agree is worth the extra $200 since you're a loyal Apple fan. By the way, this plausible scenario (preview) was repeatedly tested in Tim's head for Apple fanboy quality assurance.
 
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lol and let's not forget that there aren't any 100w cables available! USB-C has the 100w spec, but it's not that easy to implement. Anyone that's been shopping for USB-C perpherials knows full well that it's the wild west. You never know if it's going to kill your device, not up to spec, or simply just doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong, I love USB-C, but it's very difficult finding reliable USB-C perpherals so I usually buy it direct from Apple.

The 2m Apple MLL82AM/A USB-C 2.0 charge cable, Model A1739, is rated for 5A/100w. It comes with the 2016 MacBook Pros (13" and 15" versions), or you can buy it separately for $19 SRP.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/htmlview#

I agree with you 100%, though. It has taken a lot of research and headache on my end to find reliable, safe, cables and chargers for my USB-C MacBook and MacBook Pro laptops.
 
USB-C. Really?

This is the right direction...but I'll be amazed if Apple drop Lightning.

EDIT: If they do this, will they also release new USB-C rechargeable keyboard, mouse and trackpad for the iMac?

More than likely on the next model would pick up USB-C. I'm sure everyone has plenty of lightning cables to charge those until then.
 
Considering this is a rumor site geared specifically towards Apple products, I find the shear number of Android fanboys sort of amusing. I didn't come here until I owned an iPhone, and I didn't create an account til today. I guess when I had Android phones I had better things to do with my life than get on sites like this a rip Apple fans. You know, like root my phone and flash custom ROMs. I think the populous of Android owners on this site speaks volumes for the current health of the third party development community over there on Androids side of the fence. I guess back then if there were no ROMs to flash and I was bored too, Id come over here and troll as well...
 
Making you? Maybe you should have used the included lightning earbuds? Or the included 3.5mm analog jack to lighting adapter along with the analog earbuds/headphones you already have?

I have yet to allow a manufacture "make me" do anything.

Sorry, should have clarified...I want GOOD headphones, and no dongle. Apple made that impossible with the pack-in.
 
Sorry, should have clarified...I want GOOD headphones, and no dongle. Apple made that impossible with the pack-in.

If you want/use GOOD headphones, you're not going to be using the 3.5mm jack on a phone, anyways. Lightning to a USB DAC would be the real way to go.
 
Courage is going on the opposite direction knowing IT IS the right direction, when everyone around you is kind of lost in the past. This courage thing has become a joke from short sighted people who think headphone jack will be around forever. I have iPhone 6s with headphone jack and heavy spotify and youtube user, I can't remember the last time I used the headphone jack. Honestly.

Courage is a stupid justification for a stupid move. Moving away from an industry standard towards a useless standard is not 'courage'. The annoyance of removing lightning on the other hand and moving to USB C would be courageous as there are real long term benefits.
 
I really like the fact that it would be the size of an 4.7" iPhone, is a nice size. If they don't do something very odd, it will be my next iPhone.
 
Courage is a stupid justification for a stupid move. Moving away from an industry standard towards a useless standard is not 'courage'. The annoyance of removing lightning on the other hand and moving to USB C would be courageous as there are real long term benefits.

That is your opinion, and I respekton that. You can stick for a century on a century old tech or you dare do what others are afraid and make a move to the future. Stupid people think a tech like headphone jack will stick around forever because you know....it is standard. Standard my ass. Sooner or later someone have to dump it and who else is more influencal then Apple to do that. If you wait for the right time, it will never be right because stupid people are not to comfortable with changes.
 
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To what end? What possible benefit does USB-C have over Lightning in a mobile phone?

Apple has been working toward high speed wireless technology for file transfers, backups, audio, and now wireless charging. What possible purpose could switching to a new port serve? What's clear is Apple will eliminate all ports from the iPhone for the ultimate waterproofed device, with the ultimate convenience of never having to plug it into anything.

At some point, I could see the iPadPro switching to USB-C, as those devices begin to rival MacBooks in terms of storage and capability. However, there's still no compelling reason to switch to USB-C as the iPad is essentially sold as a wireless device. You can't even hook up an Ethernet cable to it. While that could change in the future, it seems unlikely.

Apart from greatly improved power delivery, faster transfer speeds, ability to support pretty much anything (hdmi, networking, thunderbolt and whatnot)? Or the fact that pretty much all new laptops and phones (except apples, yet), cameras, usb-drives and similar come with USB-C now? It's very quickly becoming the new standard, and everyone but apple is on board so far. Sure, Lightning can do a lot too, just not as much.

And no, wireless isn't better. It's good, and becoming better, but you will ALWAYS charge your phone in the area of twice as fast with a cable, probably even faster than that (Meizu just announced a new chargin system that will charge its 3000mAh batteries to 100% in <20 minutes, for example). USB-C straigt to a phone will always have like 10 times the transfer speed advantage over wireless, at least for the forseeable future.

So yes, they are wireless devices and work great as that. But if you want to use a cable, which a lot of people do as it's way faster, why not use the best on the market? That also has the same connector that your computer, camera, printer, android phone and any other peripherals, so you basically just need one type of cable for everything? I highly doubt Apple won't jump on the USB-C train, especially considering how much work they put into developing it.
 
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