Again, where does USB-C fit into Apple's mobile device strategy of wireless audio, wireless data transfer (including iCloud), wireless charging (coming soon to iPhone, already here in Apple Watch)?
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iPhone 8 Will Have Curved OLED Screen and USB-C Connector
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Not sh**ing you. First one: Screen went yellow on one half while I was charging it and the next day it was unresponsive. Eventually going completely black before I could even get to a sprint store.Really? will someone please pass me an extra large pinch of salt.......
Second one: Worked fine for a couple weeks, then woke up one morning after I had left it on the charger all night and the battery indicated 43% left. Next day it didn't happen. Then it started happening regularly where it wouldn't charge fully. Almost every other night this happened.
I called sprint and told them and they paid off my lease and let me have whatever I want. I went with the iPhone and I will probably never look back. Ive never been impressed with Sammy. I had a Note 5 that was a piece of crap as well. My Note 7 ironically was the only Sammy I have owned that I loved and we all know how that ended.
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It doesn' t fit in. Why? Just because you can plug it into the new macbook pro? They can also do that with a usb-c to lightning cable ( with a usb-c charger).
What would be the other benefit for apple giving up lightning for usb-c?
So then there will be some iPhone users who will have to use a USB C to Lightning to 3.5mm adaptor for their headphones?
But it DOES make sense to use different connectors to differentiate between two completely different hardware lines. Say OSX with Thunderbolt (USB C) and iOS with Lightning. Everything that runs iOS uses Lightning. That's just the way it is. Sorry, but no USB C for your iPhone or iPad...
Since when has ANY Apple hardware decision - when it comes to removing stuff benefit consumers? Again, starting all the way back with removing Floppy disks, to removing firewire, to removing the CD Rom drive, etc. every time Apple has made a decision to remove a key component it's been to benefit THEIR bottom line. The only people who continue to applaud this crap are Apple fanboys and tech geeks and it's always, ALWAYS done at the expense of the broader Apple consumers.
Sure they give us BS technical reasons behind the moves, but ultimately it always meant MORE money to Apple Customers who had to spend replacing stuff, buying more expensive macs, etc. It HAD zero to do with consumers.
Sure years later consumers may come around and it ultimately doesn't matter, but don't sit there and act like Apple makes Hardware decisions based solely on whether or not it 'benefits' consumers. Again, look at the Headphone Jack nonsense as a recent example of their arrogance.
The headphone jack thing really isn't a big deal. I was leery of it myself. Turns out I freaked out for no reason. Its really no different than before. There is a dongle there and I don't even notice.
Ya did you see my signature? I also own two android tablets. My point was android was cool when the third party development scene was flourishing and there were new ROMs to flash every week. That is no longer the case. Hasn't been for a couple years. Android is....boring at best now. Everyone wanted that nexus-like experience and they got it. Its now on almost every single phone. I never liked it.
It doesn't change the fact that there are more android devices. I am not debating specific models or profit. In these areas Apple clearly is the leader.
That's why I don't see the point to replace the capable lightning.
Some people said replace by USB C will be more convenient, but I don't see the point, I used to dedicate each device with a charging cable.
I feel the opposite. I got tired of flashing roms and ultimately moved to the iPhone.
Naturally, a market containing 100+ types of android phones compared to what...4 different apple phones is gonna show heavily in favor of android saturation.
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haha tired of flashing ROMs? Man I would put 3 or 4 on my phone per day. I loved it. Good times
lolwut? How would that have been courageous?
Ditching the headphone jack was courageous because they knew they would get hate from people for it but it was the right thing to do.
Apple would get barely any hate for switching to USB-C.
Well, a curved screen means you can forget about a third-party tempered glass screen protector. I have a Samsung GS7 and the available screen protectors are flat so there's a 3/16" gap around the edge where the two pieces of glass don't mate. I ended up tossing the protector and am relying that the hybrid case's edges will protect things if I drop it face down. (I'm also a lot more careful with my phone that my friends are with theirs. )
)tempered glass screen protector manufacturers must being cursing Apple right now...
when I got my Samsugn Galaxy S7 edge, I returned 7 glass protectors back to Zagg because they didn't fit well... I did finally get one that fit fine(well, acceptable anyway) It wasn't my skill.... I have put on glass screen protectors on at least 13 different smartphones in the last few years, only ever had 1 fail and that was because I sneezed while putting it on.
Curved screen glass and tempered screen protectors just don't mix well.
when I got my Samsugn Galaxy S7 edge, I returned 7 glass protectors back to Zagg because they didn't fit well... I did finally get one that fit fine(well, acceptable anyway) It wasn't my skill.... I have put on glass screen protectors on at least 13 different smartphones in the last few years, only ever had 1 fail and that was because I sneezed while putting it on.
Curved screen glass and tempered screen protectors just don't mix well.
You'd have to convince me that USB-C is capable of superior power delivery, and faster transfer speed than Lightning is capable. I'm not talking about current implementation of Lightning, but what it's capable of, particularly with respect to the Lightning 2 in the iPadPro. Next, you'll also have to convince me that USB-C is superior to HDMI, networking and "whatnot", over Lightning. Third, I'd like to see mobile TB3. The MB doesn't even have that yet. I also can't imagine why a mobile phone would ever need it. Are there Android mobile phones that support TB3 over USB-C presently? I'd love to see one.
As for the ubiquity of USB-C, well I guess I need more convincing. When a USB-C device, or cable, is available at a 7-11 at 3AM, then I might be convinced. If I had to find a USB-C device, or cable, in my office right now, I'd be looking an awfully long time -- and that's a company of over 5,000 employees.
Again, transfer speeds are irrelevant if the average mobile phone user is not transferring files via a cable -- and I'd wager most aren't. Many people never plug their phones into anything but a charger, and store all of their data in the cloud, if that. And keep in mind, this is exactly what Apple wants people to do. As far as charging, I'd take slower wireless charging throughout the day rather than a quick top off, and no access to power throughout the day because I don't have time to plug it in.
Apple spent a lot of time investing in Lightning, so I don't see them tossing it by the wayside. Yes they spent a lot of time investing in USB-C, but not necessarily for their phones -- but so the Mac didn't get stuck with another kludgy a-symetrical USB-solution. The Mac is not an iPhone, and the iPhone is not a Mac. So far I see no evidence of Apple trying to merge those two. The iPad is as close as that comes, and I don't really see Apple pushing the iPad toward the Mac, if anything the MB suggests the Mac is moving toward the iPad.
But again, this is all going in the wrong direction, because Apple doesn't seem to be interested in a wired, mobile solution, whether Lightning or USB-C. Both leave big, leaky holes in the devices they have to waterproof. Since USB-C is not particularly superior to Lightning, and Apple likely intends to eliminate wires completely at some point, then why not leave Lightning with an installed user base of over a billion customers, until they're ready to remove ports completely.
If you want to argue customers like wires and demand wires, and only want to carry one wire, as the reason Apple will switch to USB-C, then I have to disagree with you and move on, because I don't think that's Apple's goal at all for their mobile devices. And if they haven't demonstrated it painfully enough to everyone by now, the Mac is not the main priority for Apple these days.
LOL iPhones. I haven't logged in here since my iphone 4. Happy af Galaxy S6 Edge Plus user signing off
I hope they don't go with USB-C, but honestly I don't think there's much risk of that happening anyway.
Curved screens = meh. Wireless charging I guess is a thing for some people, but overall even if these rumors are true they're either a negative for me or almost boring.
I'd seriously just love to see Apple get their ass in gear with iOS10. There is SO MUCH wasted stinking space in that interface it's unbelievable. They bump to bigger screens, and then roll out an interface that soaks up all the space so we're left with simply bigger devices and not much extra actual real estate.
That and Notifications, that damn "press home to unlock", Music, and Photos are the biggest flushables I've ever seen Apple do. The iOS10 Music App for me is next to unusable. iOS10 is the first Apple product I've ever used that I actually dislike (listen to me whine).
Goodbye. Don't come back. Enjoy your phone.
Curved screens = meh. Wireless charging I guess is a thing for some people, but overall even if these rumors are true they're either a negative for me or almost boring.
I'd seriously just love to see Apple get their ass in gear with iOS10. There is SO MUCH wasted stinking space in that interface it's unbelievable. They bump to bigger screens, and then roll out an interface that soaks up all the space so we're left with simply bigger devices and not much extra actual real estate.
That and Notifications, that damn "press home to unlock", Music, and Photos are the biggest flushables I've ever seen Apple do. The iOS10 Music App for me is next to unusable. iOS10 is the first Apple product I've ever used that I actually dislike (listen to me whine).
LOL iPhones. I haven't logged in here since my iphone 4. Happy af Galaxy S6 Edge Plus user signing off
Goodbye. Don't come back. Enjoy your phone.
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Does QC stand for Quick Charge? If so, it's fine to plug into those.. it's not like they push too much power into a device. Devices *pull* the power they need. They simply will charge at whatever rate they *can* handle.
USB-C cables on iphone would benefit the users to connect to any devices in the future. Android devices is adopting, don't see why apple wouldn't only for monetarily purposes.
USB-C, except for size, is superior to lightning in every possible way.
USB-C supports up to 100w/5amp power transfer both way. I haven't been able to find a detailed spec on lightning, but given the most powerful lightning based device draws up to 27w/2.5amp, I suspect the maximum tolerance isn't very far from that, and output FROM a lightning power seems to be much lower.
Transfer speed is USB2.0 vs. USB3.1gen2 (480mbps vs. 10gbps). Lightning, as it's currently implemented on its cable isn't capable of driving the required connection for USB3... even if they go with the 12.9" iPad solution, it would require an upgrade from all current lightning cables.
That and plus the fact that USB-C is much more future-proof than new iteration of lightning... and instead of introducing lightning 2, I think it makes a lot of sense for Apple to adopt USB-C considering all their modern laptops went all in.
If anything, I suspect Lightning would stay as a proprietary connector for low power devices for Apple
USB-C supports up to 100w/5amp power transfer both way. I haven't been able to find a detailed spec on lightning, but given the most powerful lightning based device draws up to 27w/2.5amp, I suspect the maximum tolerance isn't very far from that, and output FROM a lightning power seems to be much lower.
Transfer speed is USB2.0 vs. USB3.1gen2 (480mbps vs. 10gbps). Lightning, as it's currently implemented on its cable isn't capable of driving the required connection for USB3... even if they go with the 12.9" iPad solution, it would require an upgrade from all current lightning cables.
That and plus the fact that USB-C is much more future-proof than new iteration of lightning... and instead of introducing lightning 2, I think it makes a lot of sense for Apple to adopt USB-C considering all their modern laptops went all in.
If anything, I suspect Lightning would stay as a proprietary connector for low power devices for Apple
Wireless.
Wireless.
Wireless!
As soon as wireless charging for iPhone arrives, the only people plugging iPhones into a cable will be fringe cases. And Apple is not going to risk ditching the (perfectly fine for mobile) Lightning connector for a much-riskier USB-C interface.