iPhone 8 Will Have Curved OLED Screen and USB-C Connector

[BeatCrazy]

I put this rumor at 50/50. Either they will or they won't. But your argument against it... it fails. Yup, there are tons of devices that use lightning. After the into of USB-C, those devices will still be able to use lightning. It was the same when Apple converted from 30 pin. People survived and adapted then, they will do the same now. We don't know if there will be benefits over lightning. Depends on what Apple does with their USB-C implementation. Catching fire with 50 cent USB-C cables? You mean like with the 50 cent lightning cables hanging on a rack in every gas station across the country? Apple can also offer MFi certification on USB-C cables. Not an issue.

This article sums it up rather well: http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea.../apple-uac-usb-c-iphone-lightning-replacement

Chances are <1%. The iPhone 7 and Apple Watch are our best insights into their plans. Less connectors, more wireless data transfer, wireless charging. Not swapping out a good connection for a more risky one.

 

[Ludatyk]

This is mind boggling. They just dropped the headphone jack last year in favor of just having of the lightning port. Now, they are going to ditch the lightning port in favor of the USB-C. I don't understand this at all.

 

[ccrunner_tj]

It makes the most sense to just make the cable in the box lightning to USB-C. Keep lightning on their devices, and allow them to plug into wall adapters and new macs with the universal standard - like when you need to use one of those charging stations at airports, for example.

And also include a USB-C to USB-A adaptor in the box.

 

[Vash108]

I wonder if the next airPods will be USB-c too?

 

[Zanton68]

I see a lot of posts about curved screens on phones. What are the advantages? Does the user gain anything or is it just a gimmick ? What happened to Apple's "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should" mind set?

 

[dilbert99]

Can someone please tell me what advantages USB C has over lightning?

USB-C is a standard.
USB-C has more pins than lightning.
USB-C is cheaper (doesn't have an expensive microcontroller/ram in it).
USB-C supports 100W.
One port for all Apple devices would be appealing.

 

[jadot]

I think My next iPhone will be a Google Pixel.

What benefit to a user does a curved screen have, what benefit does another type of connecter have when in my house we have lightening chargers in every room. Will apple update iOS to once again maximise efficiency and ease of use for customers? Until then, this iPhone is my last iPhone.

I hear you, but the horrible truth is that your Google Pixel will also not be able to use any of those lightning cables you've been collecting.

In any case, you're right. There are better (or equally) offerings out there in 2017. Once I get out of the iCloud eco system and learn to love windows it's going to be easier to give up Apple's holding me to ransom with Neutered laptops and so on. Until then, I'm stuck with it, but the more they force new standards on they hardware, the easier it is to adopt a whole new operating system etc. - perhaps one that I can integrate into my workflow without having to change everything (hard drives, sd cards, 3.5 jacks, USB 3, Thunderbolt 1 and 2,).

The move to USB C could have been a good idea, but I doubt that many will be too happy about it.

 

[unregbaron]

Let's say iPhone 8 starts shipping 1 October, when do you reckon they will have started volume production? mid-September?

 

[Rob_2811]

Great news (if true) about the USB C port, one port for both iPhone and Mac. Well done Apple.

 

[RamGuy]

The EU has mandated that mobile devices must use a common standard charger, not proprietary. Apple is not going to make a EU model. It's less expensive to drop lighting for all models and migrate to USB-C. This "news" really should not be a shock to anyone.

EU only requires that you have a charging solution that is "universal". As the iPhone comes with a USB-charger that utilises a detachable cable with a standard USB-A port on the adapter they are within the guidelines.

There is nothing stopping you from using a Samsung 9V@2A charger with your iPhone, and there is nothing stopping you from using the Apple 5V@1A charger with a Samsung device and visaversa. That's what EU is requiring, they are not (at least not yet) requiring that all phones utilise the exact same cables etc..

Which is a good thing. Otherwise it would be very hard for companies to move from Micro-USB to USB-C as the EU would prohibit the move to a new standard.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

it has become very quiet about this "mandate". i can not find detailed information when this will come into effect and what exactly it means. because all i ever read is "a universal charger". which could very well only be the charger itself, without the cable.

No it means the device itself has to have a universal standard connector. The point of the law is to banish proprietary connectors. Just because there is no new news on the mandate doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The mandate was passed a few years ago to big fan fare. Companies were given 3-4 years, I forget exactly to come into compliance. 2017 is the year.

 

[ValO]

Bring it. USB C will be a solid addition. [Now cue all the "But Android has had this forever already!" comments...]

Actually hoping for more of a change with iOS than any hardware fandangles.

I don' t believe it. Information was mixed up, i think. It will probably be equiped with a lightning to usb-c cable(with usb-c plug in charging unit)

 

[RickInHouston]

apple is marketing it as the Samsung phone.

 

[5105973]

Am I the only one hoping they won't go with a curved display? It adds absolutely nothing of value... Other than perhaps looking cool the first time you see the phone. After that point it just becomes annoying. It makes the phone much harder to hold without accidentally touch the display (yeah I have a Galaxy S7 Edge and this happens all the time when using it with one hand..) and the portion of the display that is curved is useless as everything displayed in this area gets distorted so having a 5,5-inch curved display gives you less usable screen area compared to a 5,5-inch flat display.

With that said, I'm all for a "Edge-to-Edge" display. Having lips on the left and right side of the display is wasted space. But you don't need to wrap the damn display around the edges...

From one Edge owner to another, I'm with you on this. I also had the Note 7 which did a more subdued version of edges and I liked it, but ultimately prefer flat for functionality. Even the current iPhone display is too curved, imo, as it makes getting good fitting screen protectors a pain in the tail. I much prefer my flat IPhone SE display for functionality and even looks.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

What if they release Lighting as a mini USB-C spec? kinda like they did with DisplayPort and Thunderbolt.

That would make no sense at all.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

EU only requires that you have a charging solution that is "universal". As the iPhone comes with a USB-charger that utilises a detachable cable with a standard USB-A port on the adapter they are within the guidelines.

There is nothing stopping you from using a Samsung 9V@2A charger with your iPhone, and there is nothing stopping you from using the Apple 5V@1A charger with a Samsung device and visaversa. That's what EU is requiring, they are not (at least not yet) requiring that all phones utilise the exact same cables etc..

Which is a good thing. Otherwise it would be very hard for companies to move from Micro-USB to USB-C as the EU would prohibit the move to a new standard.

Correct, it is not mandating a specific standard cable, just that the device has a standardized port. Companies can use any that is an industry standard -- any flavor of USB would qualify since it is a standard, not proprietary.

 

[dilbert99]

USB-C means I need three kinds of charging cables at home, where right now I only need two.

We have tons of charging cables at home
For laptops, phones, tablets and watches
USB-C/Mini USB/Micro USB/ Some weird custom USB - various
lighting - iPad/iPhone
30 pin - iPad
Round laptop jacks
Apple watch connector
Pebble connector
then add on all the different charging cables for cameras and other devices

I'll be glad when it is all usb-c

 

[69Mustang]

Even if you think Samsung/Android lead now (a crazy idea considering the chain of events that are: Siri > S Voice > Touch ID > Galaxy S Fingerprint Scanner > 64-bit A7 chip > Samsung's "We're working on 64-bit, too!" statement > Apple Pay > Samsung Pay) then look back in your history books.

Apple announces iPhone - Google re-thought Android so it wasn't Blackberry-like, but iOS-like. Look at the early Android phones.

That is when iPhone led the industry, even if you don't think they're leading now. Funny thing was at the time, Nokia and Blackberry were still viable players, and no one thought Apple was leading. When we look back, people say "Apple lead then, but not now."

I think you severely misinterpreted the point of the quote from @Rogifan . She wasn't knocking Apple. She was restating the oft quoted, "Apple doesn't always do X first, but they improve and polish it." For the most part, she's right.
Also your Samsung/Android example is not a Samsung/Android example. It's a Samsung example only. If you actually did an Android comparison you find Siri and 64-bit chip were firsts on Apple hardware. Touch ID, Apple Pay, NFC, larger screens, etc... those and more are Android firsts. More importantly, it doesn't matter AT ALL. Who care's who did it first?
I just saw your Samsung/Android examples and thought it odd that you neglected to put any actual Android stuff in it.

 

[Swazaloo]

Lightning is better can't see why they would downgrade to a lesser more bulky standard... most apple users, have plenty of lightning cables lying around.

Maybe the physical connector is better... but lighting cables are USB 2.0, which means they are slow as hell. Plus everything else in the world will be USB-C soon.

 

[techsmith]

USB-C? I don't see this happening. But who knows, I couldn't see them switching to lighting when they did either. With lightning, there was a clear benefit. I just don't see the benefit with USB-C.

Cheaper cables, universal, still reversible, and you can borrow a charger from anyone who has a newer Android.

 

[Risco]

I bet the 10th Anniversary edition will be impossible to find, produced in very limited quantities and cost over $1500....

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Let's say iPhone 8 starts shipping 1 October, when do you reckon they will have started volume production? mid-September?

It's Apple, who knows. By TC's own admission he misjudged demand for just about every big product Apple has release recently, esp the 7+. I think TC's M.O. is to intentionally ramp up slowly so he can eyeball demand rather than use a computer model to predict it. Upshot there is Apple isn't left with a surplus. Downside is customers get annoyed waiting 2 months for their new phone.

 

[ColdShadow]

this is just wrong.
why would they only make improvements in the "special" edition..
OLED screen is nothing special and Samsung been using superior OLED screens even in their budget phones.how can Apple reserve that only for the "special" model and use same old boring LCD in other 2?

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

Sounds good to me.

 

[newdeal]

this is just wrong.
why would they only make improvements in the "special" edition..
OLED screen is nothing special and Samsung been using superior OLED screens even in their budget phones.how can Apple reserve that only for the "special" model and use same old boring LCD in other 2?

most people don't care about OLED vs LCD except nerds. What people care about is cool features like the curved display and all glass housing. They then cover those up with the largest possible case and feel content that they have something really sleek inside that ugly otter box
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I bet the 10th Anniversary edition will be impossible to find, produced in very limited quantities and cost over $1500....

Not so sure about the price but the other 2 points are practically a guarantee. I think it will start at $200 more than the base price of the current iPhone 7+ and it will come with twice the storage in the base model as the base model 7 does which is why they skipped over 64gb as an option for the 7

 

[macduke]

Why? They just released AirPods that charge via Lightning. They just removed the headphone jack because it was bulky and took up too much space. The USB-C port is about twice as thick as Lightning! It's also less durable with a piece in the middle that could break. The only advantage I could see is for fast charging, as USB-A on the other end of the Lightning cable can't charge as fast.

Here's my take: I think they're hearing this from sources producing the next-gen Lightning cable and charger. Apple has probably been testing the USB-C end for it, and the other end will have Lightning. They're probably sourcing USB-C ports for the charger where the cable plugs in. Why would they do this? Well, the obvious answer is the new MacBooks. Beyond that, USB-C can take more power through the port and therefore charge faster. The iPhone Pro/8 is rumored to have a lot bigger battery and support quick charging via inductive charging, so quick charging via cable also is a no-brainer. It's Lightning to USB-C, folks.