I paid someone to take that responsibility from me. Just like I do every time I spend money. I don't want to have to waste my time researching apps.
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iPhone App Sideloading Coming to Users in the EU in First Half of 2024
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My wife has been using Android since the beginning, is not tech savvy, and has never installed an app outside of the Play store. My parents use Androids, they have never installed a 3rd party app outside of the Play store.
I'd be surprised if more than 10% of all Android users have ever installed anything outside of the official stores.
I find it interesting that people here talk about how warez and spyware proliferate on Android, do not know what they are talking about.
I happen to use Android, iOS, MacOS, Linux and Windows. There is nothing inherently compromised on Android. Even with side loading, unless you install something that is nefarious, there are no added risks.
Google will sniff all apps on your phone and tell you if something, even side loaded, has the potential to compromise your phone.
Side loading is a non-issue on Android.
Android is Linux with a skin.
iOS is BSD with a skin.
Both are inherently secure with different layers of permissions for execution and files.
A sideloaded app has no more potential to steal information than any other app on Android because all apps are sandboxed and can't see the cache and data of another app.
Currently add blockers that use a VPN type structure are banned on Android and Apple app stores But I can side load that in my Android and literally block adds where I see fit and add whitelists for apps and sites. If for nothing else, the ability to block adds makes side loading worth it.
I will never buy an iPhone for my own use until I can side load.
I happen to use Android, iOS, MacOS, Linux and Windows. There is nothing inherently compromised on Android. Even with side loading, unless you install something that is nefarious, there are no added risks.
Google will sniff all apps on your phone and tell you if something, even side loaded, has the potential to compromise your phone.
Side loading is a non-issue on Android.
Android is Linux with a skin.
iOS is BSD with a skin.
Both are inherently secure with different layers of permissions for execution and files.
A sideloaded app has no more potential to steal information than any other app on Android because all apps are sandboxed and can't see the cache and data of another app.
Currently add blockers that use a VPN type structure are banned on Android and Apple app stores But I can side load that in my Android and literally block adds where I see fit and add whitelists for apps and sites. If for nothing else, the ability to block adds makes side loading worth it.
I will never buy an iPhone for my own use until I can side load.
Log in with a VPN and turn off the GPS receiver. Apple maps and Google maps will stop working all so that your game company can save a 30% fee. Why would you care about that?
Where did I say anything about government doing anything??? I don’t want anyone coddling me. No big company. No government. Get out of my business and let me develop and install whatever apps I want. It’s not Apple’s business or any government's business what I do on my device, nor should it be their right to limit me.
And if I install some malware….that’s on me! People have completely lost the ability to take responsibility for themselves. Watching Apple fans twist themselves into knots over side loading and the illusion of “safety” and “privacy” has become embarrassing.
Apple fans are insanely ignorant of how other platforms work. They spew nonsense all day long about Android and Windows.
And alternative app stores could be similar to the dark web. The users are not going to know.
I don’t want the government messing in my proprietary ip. Get the heck out of my requirements and let the users vote with their wallets like it’s been done through the ages.
Netherlands here. EU scks. Do they decide the rules of an app store and the next charging port a phone gets? Maybe they should get out of their office and walk around in their cities... there's more important things to do.
Don't like it, don't use / develop for it.
But yes I’m totally supportive of any laws that level the playing field and create open markets.
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Ok, so maybe we're not so far apart. You agree then that this new regulation undermines my freedom to do that?
You speak of freedom… I don’t think freedom means what you think it means.
For a lot of people, freedom means that they get whatever they want, no matter the cost to freedom or society.
I don’t care about Apple. I care about freedom. It’s quite disingenuous to preemptively castigate anyone who disagrees with you as being primarily concerned about Apple’s profits.
Let’s do better!
This new regulation undermines nothing. You can stay in the walled garden if you like. Nothing changes for you.
And you see how this regulation prevents someone from entering this open market with a system that allowed people to spend less time vetting applications and helped make more small businesses visible to the end user,?
I cannot. The walled garden has been dismantled. I can choose to not venture beyond where the walls once were, but that's a very, very different thing.
I tried to take responsibility for what was installed on my device by choosing a system that reduced the time and energy to manage that responsibility. Now that is gone.
The EU does not prevent what you describe. You can stay in Apples walled garden and nothing changes for you.
No, I believe Apple undermines your freedom to install, or not install, what you wish. I should be able to install anything I want, for any reason I want, without any blessing other my own.
Apple shouldn't have a say-so in how hardware, that I purchase, is used, not should the government. The end-user should decide.
I say this with having zero desire to sideload apps. I'll probably never use said feature, but I think it should be there.
The walls are still there. There just happens to be something on the other side. Stay in the garden if you want to. Or don’t.
Every other platform out there allows side loading, or as it’s more commonly called, installing. And the sky hasn’t fallen. So bored with the drama and narcissism around the side loading issue. I miss the good old days when tech fans weren’t so fearful.
Bingo. Imagine if Tesla forbid you from driving their vehicles into certain parts of town….because “safety”!
Would anyone support such nonsense?
Hardware you, and others, purchased knowing how it operated. If you don't like how that hardware operates, choose different hardware.
You aren't buying a circuit board and chips, you're buying into a system. Take responsibility for the system you choose.
I find this argument hypocritical. "Freedom for me, but I support forcing you to do what I want."