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Well if Apple falls behind developers might abandon it for steam who doesn’t impose such draconian limits.
Why would wealthier people prefer iOS? Perhaps because of the experience? Wealthier people tend to prefer curated experiences, so with that gone now, so why would you expect people to keep spending as much?


Will they be allowed to? I don't mean this rhetorically. Jobs specifically described the App Store as a way to make the app buying experience easier and more secure for buyers and sellers. Making it easier in the ways they did is now illegal. What's the motivation to try again if the government is just going to find another reason to cut them off at the knees?
How do you interpret it to be gone?

They are completely legal to continue exactly as now, the only difference is developers can communicate with users freely outside the AppStore and provide better services without Apple as the mandatory middleman.
 
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Not a single one of theses responses has anything to do with what I said.
It absolutely did as your points didn’t refute the existing breach of your wallet garden of my original point making this a sliding scale, and nether did you defend the status quo when I pointed out an existing more secure option employed on Mac.

And the privacy issue you pointed out isn’t prevented currently by Apple, but the cited legal paragraphs would actually impact such practices and make them less invasive.

And Piracy is already illegal and completely irrelevant for the legal uses currently made possible with enterprise certificate’s Apple provide.
 
Fortunately iOS is designed to sandbox and block apps from accessing things that either Apple or the user don't want an app to access, this shouldn't change with sideloading.
Except: isn’t access to the SE part of the EU’s demands? I remember reading that a while ago.
 
I trust the Software Architects and other very talented people at Apple to solve these problems, but I am definitely keeping my eye on the developments. I'm guessing they'll notify Developers in the Apple Developer app when they get closer to implementation.
The thing about talented smart ppl is that they will find ways to "fix" problems to benefit them not necessarily you. And if they are really smart that reaches a whole new lvl
 
Apple is going to do everything possible to drag their feet in opening this up to the rest of the world and likely only do it under government mandate. It's hard for them to surrender that 30% cut of App Store fees/subscriptions....

Wonder if a VPN into the EU would be a viable workaround? Is Apple basing this 'restriction' based on phone's point of origin at purchase or when it's being used?
it wont be a flimsy networking restriction, it will be an OS signing certificate, like regionality of dvd's. Super likely to be highlighted in the clause in the user agreement, allowing them to brick the device if tampering is detected.
 
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Why “highly controlled?” I’d let people have direct access to the file system and install whatever crap they want with the caveat that it is at their own risk and they will not receive warranty or tech support. Give them enough rope to hang themselves. Heck just disable the full disk encryption and app signing checks too. It’s a free region, people have the right to shoot themselves in the foot if they want to.
But that's the point here. People are used to Apple’s support. They will come to the Store and whine about their misbehaving devices. If they are sent away, Apple’s brand will suffer.
 
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You saying you took responsibility by actively choosing a system that gives you none
Didn't you just say you make other responsible choices by delegating to others? I feel you might think this is a bigger gotcha that it's going to turn out to be...
 
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Didn't you just say you make other responsible choices by delegating to others? I feel you might think this is a bigger gotcha that it's going to turn out to be...
You say you take responsibility then go on to say you delegate it. I plainly say I don't take responsibility for my car safety because there are systems designed to test it.

It's a completely irrelevant comparison.
 
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it wont be a flimsy networking restriction, it will be an OS signing certificate, like regionality of dvd's. Super likely to be highlighted in the clause in the user agreement, allowing them to brick the device if tampering is detected.
Oh, if they ever so slightly alter the functionality of the phone remotely like that they'd open up to a lawsuit so big it'll nuke them from orbit
 
You say you take responsibility then go on to say you delegate it. I plainly say I don't take responsibility for my car safety because there are systems designed to test it.

It's a completely irrelevant comparison.
Really? You delegate your safety testing of your car to a company that tests it for you, how is that different?
 
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Can you trace this thread back to understand what you're jumping into the middle of and then explain why the answer to that matters?
Everyone can make up points to support their argument. For example, I could say that outside of this forum everyone is happy for this.
Now we both now that's untrue, the same way saying wealthy people buy iPhones because of the walled garden model is misleading. Like, sure, let's ignore everything about Apple being a status symbol, peer pressure, green bubbles and the like
 
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The point in your reply chain being “side loading will allow people to take responsibility.”
Fret not, I have read the entire thread

Edit: besides, you did say:
Analog Kid said:
I tried to take responsibility for what was installed on my device by choosing a system that reduced the time and energy to manage that responsibility. Now that is gone.
 
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The point in your reply chain being “side loading will allow people to take responsibility.”
Fret not, I have read the entire thread

Edit: besides, you did say:
You read the thread and then put something in quotations that is not a quote. Then requoted me yet again as though the reason why is self evident. There's no tree to bark up here.
 
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