indeed 27 difrent nations who have a thousand year of war and betrayal behind them, while the US with 50 states and a single war of relevance can barely get along for any standard or regulation
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iPhone App Sideloading Coming to Users in the EU in First Half of 2024
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Nice try, I never sounded of that this legislation is necessary. Please do quote that.
Though having the option and not needing to use it is always better than not having the option at all. Have a good day cracking up.
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That would go against the spirit of the law I believe (and I hope)
Besides, Apple wouldn't want their users to suffer from a lack of privacy due to stores being unable to notify users of app updates, would they?
Edit: I meant security, not privacy
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This comment is so disingenuous it's actually impressive.
Your Mac almost shares, with the exception of health, ALL of the data you have listed, what complete nonsense.
Moreover, just because the data is on your phone does not make it any more secure if you go downloading those oh-so-well-curated scam apps which simply read your data.
You are simply making excuses for Apple; this is only about money in their eyes. I for one, welcome this step forward.
I would expect a country to do what is best for its own citizens, and it's no surprise that the rules brought forth by the EU target primarily US companies who, had they started out in the EU, would never have had the opportunity to grow as large as they are today. All to shore up its own local enterprises, some of which, like Spotify, aren't exactly plucky startups.
It's really just protectionism under another name.
That is also both the strength and the weakness of the US business landscape. You succeed and fail on your own merits.
This, the App Store is such a pain in the derrière to use.
Agree with this.
In addition I have 800GB of data on my Mac most of which does not reside on my and is not accessible from my phone of course.
Yes, Meta is going to hang around, as you have two scenarios:
[1] iPhone comes with the AppStore, you download the Meta App that is already available. This is quick and easy, as it's one easy step.
[2] iPhone comes with the AppStore, you can't find the Meta App, Meta is telling you to download another store, you need to sign up first. You sign up (maybe you can use your Meta account), download the store, download the Meta app. This is hard, as it's as it requires more than two steps, three, four if you look for the app in the AppStore and the average user will be already frustrated.
Since it's already established, that you get more success with less clicks (why do you think you can book a hotel directly from google maps, or why those encompassing pages like grubhub are succesful, it's because they are convenient and quick to use) Meta might offer their App on a different store, but will likely hang around the AppStore, because this is how they can entice new users to quickly install their App.
You can doomsday scenario all you want, but most of the time, the Apps will remain on the stores.
First, the rules apply to all companies of a certain size and function. It's true that most of them are based in the US. But in reality those are very international businesses. Is Apple Chinese, because they manufacture most of the products there? Last time I checked my iPhone had 'Made in China' written all over it. Or is it Irish, because all international sales are taxed through its Irish subsidiary and profits are kept in dubious offshore holding companies?
Other countries and regions will enact similar rules very soon. It has been reported that South Korea is working on it, Japan too. I'm very confident more will follow.
If the rules are too onerous for Apple, they can stop selling their gear here. I doubt they will, it would completely destroy a lot of value and shareholders would be very unhappy.
I know Apple will never pull out of a lucrative market like the EU, which is exactly how they can have the sway they do.
It would make for an interesting thought exercise though. Say some of the bigger US tech giants like Google, Apple and Facebook decided to simultaneously pull out of the EU and withhold their products and services from said region, who do you think will cave first? You are looking no iOS and android devices and services (which is basically every smartphone in the market), and a large chunk of access to news.
Also, it's not like the US government is not doing the same thing in other sectors. Most German cars sold in the US are manufactured in factories in the US, Mexico or Canada. Why? Because there are laws (tariffs, tax code and regulations) that make it financially very unattractive to export cars from Europe to the US. Solar panels are significantly more expensive in the US than anywhere in the world because of punitive tariffs for panels made in China. Just two examples of protective trade barriers that immediately came to my mind. I'm sure there are many, many more.
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I just love how the people who keep crying that "the free market should decide" are suddenly terrified of losing apps in the App Store to other app stores. Like, what's wrong, the free market should decide!
No iOS updates doesn't mean old devices suddenly disappear. Besides, it's not like there wouldn't be solutions for bypassing any geographical lock they would implement in this rather improbable scenario
True. I still feel Apple intends to do as much as they can to meet the letter of the law while giving up as little control as possible. Which is why I am actually waiting with bated breath to see what form their sideloading solution will take for the EU.
It's going to be interesting to watch this unfold. My hunch is that they will play a game of cat and mouse for some time and that in the end Apple will fold. Facebook has been doing this regarding privacy laws very successfully for five years.
Unlikely with the current government but I’m sure it’ll happen pretty soon with a new one.
And they’ll make it feel like you’re activating the explosive bolts on the outer door of your ship’s airlock when you are in space, a billion miles away from Earth.
Umm due to iCloud, pretty much the same sort of personal data on my iPhone is on my Mac.
Not health data, sure, but everything else is :
Contacts, documents, calendar, payment card info, passwords etc etc
And I ‘sideload’ apps on my Mac from devs that I trust - and who use the Apple notarisation service - and guess what … ?
… Things are ok.
I’m pretty sure I’ve not suffered any data losses or viruses.
I’m pretty sure that I’m more likely to suffer a privacy breach from another company who I’ve given my data to being hacked.
I think the App Store was great at helping devs get paid and not letting mobile apps be like websites where it’s hard to monetise them.
But now’s the time for Apple to let other stores on the iPhone.
Competition is good right?
I imagine that if you sideload, it’ll be a scary sounding one way switch and Apple will warn you that your phone is now less secure and you can’t go back unless you factory reset & restore.
I believe you have misread my post, I am saying it is unlikely to come to the UK when they would only need to introduce it to the EU.
Yeah, full bricking, all at once, would be pretty extreme. We know there are levels of brick-ish disablement that happen all the time. In the US at least, the end user license agreements (EULA) and the digital millennium copyright act (DMCA) legally permit Apple to monitor devices, surveil users, and act to protect, their "Intellectual Property".
That's what burned Apple over CPU throttling with old batteries. It was lack of transparency, not the practice.
That's what burned HP over blockading off-brand ink cartridge. They lost a petty judgement, but they're back at it again with "Branding" for the program intent (ostensibly security).
The Asparagus and Cuttlefish are real.