It could be but Trump is already been vocal about it during his early campaign even back his campaign during the primary. I would say as a company once it's aware about POSSIBLE future changes it's plans. This could be one of them and just scrap the plan out if Hillary would have been elected. Either way somebody is gonna debunk about any claims even a news media. But the good thing is I hope this is really happening. And that we should support the leaders for the common good of our country. And that we should see Apple supporting such plan and become a true leader. That's what I'm hoping!
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iPhone Assembler Foxconn in Early Talks to Expand U.S. Operations
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I believe a separate deal... but they have "cousins" in common. IE - Sprint is owned by Softbank. And Softbank and Foxconn have partnered before http://www.softbank.jp/en/corp/news/press/sb/2015/20150622_01/
It's because they're still mourning the loss and licking their wounds. I'm no Trump fan, but they crybabies make me laugh. As if the country REALLY had a better alternative once the primaries were over.
Expect this adolescent behavior for the next 4 years at a minimum.
Foxconn factory where people are payed $2 / hour. Is this really what you want in US?
Yup. I'm sure this is exactly what all those out of work coal miners and steel worked had in mind when they voted for Trump. Hey it will pay minimum wage, not the $20-30 plus an hour they were getting, but it's a job right? If they save long and hard, they might be able to get their boats back. Of course they won't be able to buy the products hey make because Apple will have to charge a lot more to keep their margins to offset the higher labor costs.
Don't confuse inaction with indifference. Can't wait for Trump's inauguration. You will not be able to hear him over all of the booing and gunfire.
I expect to be there at the inauguration, but the reason I think it might be hard to hear the speakers will be because of all the Americans singing "Na na na na, na na na na, hey heyyyy, goodbye!" to Barack Obama in the same way his supporters did back in 2009,
You do realize I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton? I thought she was just as garbage as Trump is.
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What low-income urban area in the USA has 300,000 people available to assemble iPhones? Name the city.
I think the half of the country that didn't vote at all (including me) is closer to your mindset. The other half that did vote simply voted lesser of two evils. I've yet to meet a Trump or Clinton voter that liked their candidate more than they hated the other choice. That's more process of elimination than voting.
Detroit.
50% of the city < $25K/yr.
Maybe not 300K people, but many many individuals.
You also forget that, as in China (as I understand), prospective employees could even be moved by the company itself from other areas of the country to the city where Foxconn will be.
It turns out that if you demonize the people you disagree with, paint them as racists and oppressors, and tell them that any and all of their successes are a result of some unearned “privilege,” they will create a counterrevolution. President-elect Trump is the consequence of these actions.
It is hard to know, it is a long time ago Apple sold out of ARM, but it is important to not underestimate informal connections. But I don't think Apples involvement concerns more than their own interests in developing own-use silicon. Economically they are strong enough to buy ARM if that was what they wanted.
SoftBank and Foxconn are not partner in each other, but to understand what is going on you have to focus on persons. Terry Gou (Foxconn CEO), Masayoshi Son (SoftBank CEO), Jack Ma (Alibaba Executive Chairman), are all sort of billionaire best buddies. As such I imagine it is also easy for Donald Trump to blend in although he is dwarfed by the others.
The Amazon Go store is literally in a beta program with their own employees. What is the difference between that and self checkout anyways?
Besides, how could you argue that more job opportunities is a bad thing? Even if once there is a shift to robotics, you will still need someone maintaining everything, they will still need suppliers to provide components, and raw materials will be required for those suppliers. Just more chance all of that would be sourced from an American company. One company making finished goods creates many more jobs than what you see on the surface.
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Not anymore. He is the President-elect of the United States of America.
The fundamental flaw is that with welfare in its current state, there is little incentive for these no/low income individuals to do these jobs. While there are 100,000,000 people out of the labor force Progressives still tout that there are jobs Americans simply don't want to/wont do. Reform entitlements, don't give people a choice, build manufacturing back up, and Make America Great Again.
Plus there are more than 2 million people currently incarcerated across the United States. Perfect way to make these individuals give back to society after voiding the social contract and pay back their incarceration costs.
Regardless of our politics or lack thereof, I think we can all agree during this holiday season that it is fantastic that companies are investing in America to create jobs and bring hope and opportunity to those unemployed and underemployed.
Merry Christmas to all!
Exactly, a reform of the welfare system is needed for this to work. I bet that many individuals will find out that they actually like to earn their money, and we'll also see some of them better themselves and build new companies and/or become amazing resources for the community.
Detroit has 300K qualified people ready and available to work on an iPhone assembly line? The entire population of Detroit is less than 700K. Are Chicago and San Francisco hotbeds for manufacturing? Do they have an abundance of low skilled workers ready to jump in an assembly line?
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Not if they're doing it because of government subsidies or bullying/shaming by the PEOTUS. Political pandering is horrible policy.
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So basically with Trump we'll go back to FDR like policies. Pretty soon we'll have Trump dam and Trump interstate and Trump city with factory workers living in their Trump homes. Scary.
Education Alert! Education Alert! Education Alert!
There's a lot of confusion and misunderstanding about how iPhones are made. Foxconn is primarily an ASSEMBLER of other companies parts from around the world. The other primary ASSEMBLER is Pegatron. Assembly line jobs in China are easily replaced, and are being replaced by Foxconn with robots. Some estimates are that the labor cost in US might only add $30 to the price of a phone, and might be offset by reduced shipping or other costs.
The bigger challenge, as Steve Jobs pointed out, is not lower skilled labor, but with having enough of the tens of thousands of engineers necessary to run the plants and be able to be nimble to quickly retool, change production, etc. It would be great to bring this manufacturing home because it would create good paying jobs, but we will have to have a renaissance in vocational education to prepare these engineers, and no they don't all need four year degrees to be factory engineers.
Foxconn has already moved some production out of China to lower wage countries like Vietnam, but they know they need to automate as they can't stay ahead of the labor costs. That's why it's conceivable to locate factories in US, if we can get the necessary number of engineers.
There's also a myth that the suppliers are all located in China. Here's just one chart to show how the various parts of the iPhone are already made all around the world and have to be shipped to China and could be similarly shipped to US for the final assembly as Foxconn does in China, Brazil, Vietnam, etc.
See above, you've got to open your mind beyond your political bias and understand that your image of production is, and to a large extent with the iPhone has always been, outdated. Foxconn just eliminated in its most recent phase 30K assembly line workers, replacing them with robots. That work is largely, though not completely,going away in China and elsewhere. Yes, there will still be a need for a few low skilled workers, but the good paying jobs that we want are the tens of thousands of engineering jobs that are crucial to running the production plants, maintaining and developing the robotics, etc. The vast majority of Americans don't care, and don't have time for, the political battle that some want to have. They want folks that will work together to usher in a renaissance of vocational education and good paying jobs for the vast number of Americans who have dropped out of the work force or who are underemployed.
There's a lot of confusion and misunderstanding about how iPhones are made. Foxconn is primarily an ASSEMBLER of other companies parts from around the world. The other primary ASSEMBLER is Pegatron. Assembly line jobs in China are easily replaced, and are being replaced by Foxconn with robots. Some estimates are that the labor cost in US might only add $30 to the price of a phone, and might be offset by reduced shipping or other costs.
The bigger challenge, as Steve Jobs pointed out, is not lower skilled labor, but with having enough of the tens of thousands of engineers necessary to run the plants and be able to be nimble to quickly retool, change production, etc. It would be great to bring this manufacturing home because it would create good paying jobs, but we will have to have a renaissance in vocational education to prepare these engineers, and no they don't all need four year degrees to be factory engineers.
Foxconn has already moved some production out of China to lower wage countries like Vietnam, but they know they need to automate as they can't stay ahead of the labor costs. That's why it's conceivable to locate factories in US, if we can get the necessary number of engineers.
There's also a myth that the suppliers are all located in China. Here's just one chart to show how the various parts of the iPhone are already made all around the world and have to be shipped to China and could be similarly shipped to US for the final assembly as Foxconn does in China, Brazil, Vietnam, etc.
- Accelerometer: Bosch Sensortech. Based in Germany, with locations in the U.S., China, South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan
- Audio chips: Cirrus Logic. Based in the U.S., with locations in the U.K., China, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, and Singapore
- Battery: Samsung. Based in South Korea, with locations in 80 countries
- Battery: Sunwoda Electronic. Based in China
- Camera: Qualcomm. Based in the U.S., with locations in Australia, Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, and more than a dozen locations through Europe and Latin America
- Camera: Sony. Based in Japan, with locations in dozens countries
- Chips for 3G/4G/LTE networking: Qualcomm.
- Compass: AKM Semiconductor. Based in Japan, with locations in the U.S., France, England, China, South Korea, and Taiwan
- Glass screen: Corning. Based in the U.S., with locations in Australia, Belgium, Brazil, China, Denmark, France, Germany, Hong Kong, India, Israel, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, South Africa, Spain, Taiwan, The Netherlands, Turkey, the U.K., and the United Arab Emirates
- Gyroscope: STMicroelectronics. Based in Switzerland, with locations 35 countries
- Flash memory: Toshiba. Based in Japan, with locations in over 50 countries
- Flash memory: Samsung.
- LCD screen: Sharp. Based in Japan, with locations in 13 countries
- LCD screen: LG. Based in South Korea, with locations in Poland and China
- A-series Processor: Samsung.
- A-series Processor: TSMC. Based in Taiwan, with locations in China, Singapore, and the U.S.
- Touch ID: TSMC
- Touch ID: Xintec. Based in Taiwan.
- Touchscreen controller: Broadcom. Based in the U.S., with locations in Israel, Greece, the U.K., the Netherlands, Belgium, France, India, China, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea
- Wi-Fi chip: Murata. Based in the U.S., with locations in Japan, Mexico, Brazil, Canada, China, Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, India, Vietnam, The Netherlands, Spain, the U.K., Germany, Hungary, France, Italy, and Finland
See above, you've got to open your mind beyond your political bias and understand that your image of production is, and to a large extent with the iPhone has always been, outdated. Foxconn just eliminated in its most recent phase 30K assembly line workers, replacing them with robots. That work is largely, though not completely,going away in China and elsewhere. Yes, there will still be a need for a few low skilled workers, but the good paying jobs that we want are the tens of thousands of engineering jobs that are crucial to running the production plants, maintaining and developing the robotics, etc. The vast majority of Americans don't care, and don't have time for, the political battle that some want to have. They want folks that will work together to usher in a renaissance of vocational education and good paying jobs for the vast number of Americans who have dropped out of the work force or who are underemployed.
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Very thankful to see this. This is great news. You'll have the downers that will find something bad to say about this just because a certain man's name was mentioned in the article. As for the rest of us level-headed folk, this is great. Jobs for Americans. Cheers.
This is a Softbank/Foxconn partnership.
Foxconn invested in Softbank's robotic business. So one could expect they'll need a lot of hardware/software engineers.
And let's be serious, these kind of decisions cannot be made in a month.
Well since Obama got blamed for the last years of Bush I guess at least it's good that the Republicans are at least being consistent in saying that whatever happens in the previous president's last year or so in office is credited to the incoming one. I wonder if they would be giving Trump the credit if the economy was crashing during the last year of Obama?
Assuming his move actually happens I hope that the jobs actually pay enough for people to live off of and aren't just minimum wage jobs.
Assuming his move actually happens I hope that the jobs actually pay enough for people to live off of and aren't just minimum wage jobs.
This is idiotic. If Obama has to make an announcement each and every time some company creates jobs in the US, he'll be sitting there 24/7 making announcements.
And do you honestly believe Softbank just snapped a finger and decides to invest 50B in the US within a month? really?