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So things already in motion that Trump will take credit for. Just like the SoftBank announcement which we have very little details on. And the kool-aid drinkers will lap it up. Just last night on Fox News that clown Corey Lewandowski said people are allowed to say Merry Christmas again because Donald Trump was elected. This is the delusion of the Trump sycophants. They put Obama's hope and change brigade to shame.
Sounds like every single new administration. It takes so long for any significant change to occur, they all claim credit for stuff that began long before they were even in the running.
 
re: Japan SoftBank



Correction: falsely claimed it was a result of his election win. The Japan SoftBank investment fund was formed and announced before the election:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/softbank-group-launches-investment-fund-1476398189
Get real! They announced a $100 fund for investing in high tech. Now they're using $50 billion of that fund to jump on the Trump jobs bandwagon, and the stock markets have rewarded them:

Shares in SoftBank jumped 6.2 percent on Wednesday in Tokyo to their highest since August last year.

"Now the market sees SoftBank as a Trump-related stock and that's because it reacted favorably to their meeting," said Fumio Matsumoto, a fund manager at Dalton Capital in Japan.
Such excitement about creating jobs would never have occurred under Crooked Hillary's watch.
 
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No matter what, Trump already gets things done.
And the media cycle continues to feed itself.
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Cook should do a fresh new Ad campaign with "Think Different" with new people. He can put Steve Jobs and Trump among other new faces in the commercial. You can hate them but you can't ignore them, they make a difference.

This could be the start to make Apple Great Again.

Way to miss the point of the ads completely.
 
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So things already in motion that Trump will take credit for. Just like the SoftBank announcement which we have very little details on. And the kool-aid drinkers will lap it up. Just last night on Fox News that clown Corey Lewandowski said people are allowed to say Merry Christmas again because Donald Trump was elected. This is the delusion of the Trump sycophants. They put Obama's hope and change brigade to shame.

Your disrespect and name calling of HALF of the country that did not vote for your candidate is exactly the reason so many people voted for Trump.

The truth is, Trump has been harping on Apple to bring jobs back to the US for a long time, and Tim Cook has been looking into it since summer as far as I know. You certainly didn't hear other candidates speaking about this matter.
 
Get real! They announced a $100 fund for investing in high tech. Now they're using $50 billion of that fund to jump on the Trump jobs bandwagon, and the stock markets have rewarded them:

Shares in SoftBank jumped 6.2 percent on Wednesday in Tokyo to their highest since August last year.

"Now the market sees SoftBank as a Trump-related stock and that's because it reacted favorably to their meeting," said Fumio Matsumoto, a fund manager at Dalton Capital in Japan.
Such excitement about creating jobs would never have occurred under Crooked Hillary's watch.
"Such excitement"? You mean stock market antics? No one is expecting this to ever transpire including Trump. Wake up.
 
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Liberals are losing their minds, getting deliriously dizzy trying to spin good news into bad. And I LOVE it!

So much spin and so much butt hurt.

Your disrespect and name calling of HALF of the country that did not vote for your candidate is exactly the reason so many people voted for Trump.

The truth is, Trump has been harping on Apple to bring jobs back to the US for a long time, and Tim Cook has been looking into it since summer as far as I know. You certainly didn't hear other candidates speaking about this matter.

I don't think Rogi is a Liberal or a Clinton Supporter
 
That would be President Elect, soon the be President Trump.
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Obama and Moochie hate America.

Not sure why you felt the need to reply to my thread. I'm aware who Trump is. And if you think Obama hates America, you haven't been paying attention or are just spewing ignorance.
 
Softbank Vision Fund, where half of the amount is coming from is expected to be at least 45% Saudi dollars from their public investment fund. 25% is from SoftBank. Saudi Arabia is doing this because they look to income outside the oil sector, as they keep the oil price low by high output. Which effectively hampers American oil companies investments in the US.

Foxconn is involved because they plan to expand their limited plants they have in USA. No one has so far claimed that they will produce iPhones at these plants, or any other Apple product for that matter. It is however not unlikely if Apple is able to get cost down through tax cuts and automation that they will, and this is a positioning by Foxconn for Trumps forecasted incentives.

SoftBank also owns Sprint by 83%, which are now cutting jobs to reduce cost by 2 billion usd. They want to buy T-mobile and this may in part be lobbying as for now US regulators have said no.

SoftBank claims that most of the fund will be used for smaller tech startups primarily in IoT related businesses. They already are the owner of ARM Semiconductors, which also are big as licenser of the ARM architecture in the future IoT and other small electronics.

This deal seams more get played than we are the dealer for USA. But there are benefits, hopefully not in the one arms gives while the other hand grabs-kind of way.
 
"Such excitement"? You mean stock market antics? No one is expecting this to ever transpire including Trump. Wake up.
Tunnel vision is ever a problem for Libs. I mean the general optimism and confidence that has been restored for all Americans since Trump was elected. His focus on keeping and creating jobs is just part of the package.
 
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re: Japan SoftBank



Correction: falsely claimed it was a result of his election win. The Japan SoftBank investment fund was formed and announced before the election:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/softbank-group-launches-investment-fund-1476398189

I guess you missed this...

"After Tuesday's meeting, Son said he decided to back American startups because Trump had made deregulation part of his platform."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/07/technology/masayoshi-son-trump-softbank-japan/
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Not sure I agree. What did Obama take credit for before he was in office? What about the Bush Jr and Sr? Clinton? Trump isn't even President yet and he's taking credit for things that were well underway and he's had no hand in.

I'll drop this quote and link right here for you too:

"After Tuesday's meeting, Son said he decided to back American startups because Trump had made deregulation part of his platform."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/07/technology/masayoshi-son-trump-softbank-japan/
 
Foxconn factory where people are payed $2 / hour. Is this really what you want in US?
iSlave-iPhone-5-Foxconn-640x405.jpg
 
I guess you missed this...

"After Tuesday's meeting, Son said he decided to back American startups because Trump had made deregulation part of his platform."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/07/technology/masayoshi-son-trump-softbank-japan/
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I'll drop this quote and link right here for you too:

"After Tuesday's meeting, Son said he decided to back American startups because Trump had made deregulation part of his platform."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/07/technology/masayoshi-son-trump-softbank-japan/

You don't mind me being skeptical of his quote. I think I'll do more research to see what information is available about softbank's plans prior to the election. We already know that Foxconn was working on something before the election.
 
And people said it would never happen...

I'm not 100% faithful this will actually happen, but the fact that FC is actually seriously considering it is enough to prove those wrong.
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Foxconn factory where people are payed $2 / hour. Is this really what you want in US?
iSlave-iPhone-5-Foxconn-640x405.jpg

I see lots of jobs.
 
Softbank Vision Fund, where half of the amount is coming from is expected to be at least 45% Saudi dollars from their public investment fund. 25% is from SoftBank. Saudi Arabia is doing this because they look to income outside the oil sector, as they keep the oil price low by high output. Which effectively hampers American oil companies investments in the US.

Foxconn is involved because they plan to expand their limited plants they have in USA. No one has so far claimed that they will produce iPhones at these plants, or any other Apple product for that matter. It is however not unlikely if Apple is able to get cost down through tax cuts and automation that they will, and this is a positioning by Foxconn for Trumps forecasted incentives.

SoftBank also owns Sprint by 83%, which are now cutting jobs to reduce cost by 2 billion usd. They want to buy T-mobile and this may in part be lobbying as for now US regulators have said no.

SoftBank claims that most of the fund will be used for smaller tech startups primarily in IoT related businesses. They already are the owner of ARM Semiconductors, which also are big as licenser of the ARM architecture in the future IoT and other small electronics.

This deal seams more get played than we are the dealer for USA. But there are benefits, hopefully not in the one arms gives while the other hand grabs-kind of way.
Agreed - this is not what it seems on the surface. It may have more to do with Sprint taking over T-Mobile. It was considered a violation of anti-trust laws when they made the attempt in 2014. Trump doesn't care about anti-trust laws if there's something in it for him. In this case it would be political benefit based on hiding the true nature of the deal. Much like the Carrier deal - at first it seemed great, then the details came out and it was nothing but a corporate handout. Carrier even said those jobs will still be eliminated anyway as automation comes in.
 
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I'm no fan of Mr. Trump but every president does this - they either take credit for positive things they had no control over or eschew blame for negative things (they might or might have had no control over). Donald Trump is just more brash about it.

I think you're minimizing what he's actually doing. Rarely does a President-elect start claiming they are personally bringing back jobs from oversees and taking credit for plans already in motion. It's one thing to claim your policies are helping the job market or creating green jobs, it's quite another to claim that you are personally influencing specific company policy. If anything, his eagerness to claim responsibility for this and the Carrier plant in Indiana only highlights the fact that he has no coherent jobs policy. It's unfortunate that instead of taking a leadership role and creating new opportunities for people in new industries, Republicans have instead opted to mislead workers into believing manufacturing jobs are ever coming back at the levels required to hire everyone.
 
Tunnel vision is ever a problem for Libs. I mean the general optimism and confidence that has been restored for all Americans since Trump was elected. His focus on keeping and creating jobs is just part of the package.
You're right but half of the country didn't vote at all and the other half of that half didn't vote for Trump. If you really believe the majority of Americans are optimistic about Trump, you are also living with tunnel vision.
 
Let's face it. Many Americans won't give Trump any kudos whatsoever no matter how much it helps the US and/or our economy. You know, like the way so many people derided Obama no matter how hard he tried to do positive things and even when he actually did positive things.

So, I'm going to give Trump my support when appropriate. Bringing manufacturing back to the US is always a good thing as long as it makes market sense. Aren't you tired of seeing able bodied adults in what use to be jobs for teens and the mentally challenged?

But...he doesn't deserve any credit for this because the plan was already in place. You really think this company approved a $50 Billion plan as soon as Trump was elected?
 
You're right but half of the country didn't vote at all and the other half of that half didn't vote for Trump. If you really believe the majority of Americans are optimistic about Trump, you are also living with tunnel vision.
Half of Americans never vote, so they're satisfied with whatever the status quo is. As for those who didn't vote for Trump, now's their chance to correct their mistake and join in with their happy American fellows!

It's raining soup, grab yourself a bowl!
 
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100,000+ jobs / $100,000,000,000 in committed investment.

Under budget and ahead of schedule.
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re: Japan SoftBank



Correction: falsely claimed it was a result of his election win. The Japan SoftBank investment fund was formed and announced before the election:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/softbank-group-launches-investment-fund-1476398189


Must have missed the part where the SoftBank CEO said the investment wouldn't have happened if Clinton was elected.
 
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Softbank Vision Fund, where half of the amount is coming from is expected to be at least 45% Saudi dollars from their public investment fund. 25% is from SoftBank. Saudi Arabia is doing this because they look to income outside the oil sector, as they keep the oil price low by high output. Which effectively hampers American oil companies investments in the US.

Foxconn is involved because they plan to expand their limited plants they have in USA. No one has so far claimed that they will produce iPhones at these plants, or any other Apple product for that matter. It is however not unlikely if Apple is able to get cost down through tax cuts and automation that they will, and this is a positioning by Foxconn for Trumps forecasted incentives.

SoftBank also owns Sprint by 83%, which are now cutting jobs to reduce cost by 2 billion usd. They want to buy T-mobile and this may in part be lobbying as for now US regulators have said no.

SoftBank claims that most of the fund will be used for smaller tech startups primarily in IoT related businesses. They already are the owner of ARM Semiconductors, which also are big as licenser of the ARM architecture in the future IoT and other small electronics.

This deal seams more get played than we are the dealer for USA. But there are benefits, hopefully not in the one arms gives while the other hand grabs-kind of way.
It would be interesting to have more details about the who's who in this story - SoftBank bought out ARM Holdings, which in turn was originally a joint venture Apple was part of at the time of its founding, and thus it's widely speculated that Apple is still very much involved since its A-series chips are ARM-ish in nature without any need for a license from ARM Holdings.
 
Foxconn factory where people are payed $2 / hour. Is this really what you want in US?

For low-income urban areas that kind of job could be a lifesaver. Don't dismiss it just because a low salary is ... low. It's a beginning for many many people, a beginning that they couldn't have otherwise.
 
You don't mind me being skeptical of his quote. I think I'll do more research to see what information is available about softbank's plans prior to the election. We already know that Foxconn was working on something before the election.

Agreed about Foxconn. But I would say Trump has been pushing this idea of Apple coming home for a long time, and I believe Tim asked Foxconn and Pegatron back in July timeframe to look into coming to the US. Pegatron declined but Foxconn did not.

What exactly is Softbank's relationship with Foxconn? Part owner? That seemed like a separate deal to the Softbank deal.
 
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