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Interesting that both Great Britain and Australia have a larger Nov16 quarter penetration for iOS than the United States!

I wonder why France and Germany are both less than half the penetration of Great Britain? Is this a cultural thing? Is it to do with the number of Apple Stores? Whatever, it represents a market worth going for.

But what's with the GB labelling, do they really mean GB or UK?
 
The most interesting thing I found from this article is that Windows mobile OS usage is still about 400% higher in Europe and AU than in the US. I had no idea it was so popular over there and down under.

It looks like it is losing market share across the board, but it is still interesting.
 
But...
Who the **** cares???
Does it make a difference in your wallet? Will the price go down now they have more market share?
You make a good point. I personally think Apple's products were much better before they were really popular.

Better sales and market share definitely does not mean better product.
 
Apple had the first smartphone. That means they had 100℅ of that market.

You're very, very wrong.
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At the beginning they were the only.

Are you guys serious?

Before the iPhone, nokia, RIM, and other WP licensees used to sell millions of smartphones.

Apple never had 50% of the market, let alone 100%.
 
I personally think Apple's products were much better before they were really popular.

Is this really the case, or did Apple just not have real competition before so you didn't have anything to compare it to back then? Relatively speaking, if apple was "8" better than the competition before and only "1" better than the competition now, I could see how you could come to that conclusion. But objectively, the newest phones are the best phones they've ever released. Go ahead and compare a 7+ to a 3GS. Have fun with that.
 
it is amazing to me how it has become a two OS race at this point. MS has taken a better direction since the CEO change, but it sure is not showing up in phone sales.
Which kinda sucks IMO.

Would have been nice if MS was smart enough to flood the market with there OS (ie cheaper phones) and take the hit now and once you gain a foot hold the profits will come.

I only say this because they were moving in the right direction 2-3 ago and had a chance but looks like that window might be closing.
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You're very, very wrong.
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Are you guys serious?

Before the iPhone, nokia, RIM, and other WP licensees used to sell millions of smartphones.

Apple never had 50% of the market, let alone 100%.
Yes, but they where crappy phones compared to the iPhone.
 
Are some people here that ignorant? Apple is going up against numerous OEMs and yet they still hold 2nd place.
If these were split into separate OEMs apple would be #1 in most.


It's a snapshot in time of what people are buying, no more, no less ... the numbers show the proletariat are purchasing phones other than iOS.
 
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Are some people here that ignorant? Apple is going up against numerous OEMs and yet they still hold 2nd place.
If these were split into separate OEMs apple would be #1 in most.

Yeah... With close to 1,300 Android brands and 24,000 distinct Android devices, with many coming into being the last couple years, Apple's share is outstanding. And, certainly from a percentage of profits perspective.
 
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Yes, but they where crappy phones compared to the iPhone.

Duh?

Sure they were crappy smartphones, but they were listed in the same IDC and Kantar market researches in the same category as the iPhone.

I don't remember the exact figure, but I've never saw the iPhone at more than about 40% market share; but of course back in the days featurephones were still bigger than smartphones, so today's figures are nothing short of impressive.
 
Geez I'm far from an optimist but I can still see positive numbers when they exist. I guess I'm just missing something. :confused:

This place has become ridiculously negative since I joined, and I've not even been here very long. :(

LOL. There's more Apple bashing on this site than on any Android site. It's kind of funny actually.
 
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Interesting that both Great Britain and Australia have a larger Nov16 quarter penetration for iOS than the United States!

I wonder why France and Germany are both less than half the penetration of Great Britain? Is this a cultural thing? Is it to do with the number of Apple Stores? Whatever, it represents a market worth going for.

But what's with the GB labelling, do they really mean GB or UK?
I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Euro prices have been harder than Sterling prices...
The most interesting thing I found from this article is that Windows mobile OS usage is still about 400% higher in Europe and AU than in the US. I had no idea it was so popular over there and down under.

It looks like it is losing market share across the board, but it is still interesting.
It probably should be read as Nokia usage with whatever OS came with it. Old habits die hard. But they still die.
 
This translates in almost complete domination of the high-end (the only segment Apple competes in).
Confused. Nothing in this report translates to Apple dominating the high end segment. They definitely do, but that can't be discerned from the report we're all reading. Also, Apple only sells phones in the high-end market but they compete in the overall smartphone market. There's an appreciable difference in what that means.

This also means that, Apple losing their collective heads and starting to compete in all segments, they could reach a monster worldwide market share and basically destroy Android. But that would be unwise for several well known reasons.
This does not mean that. Your assumption means that Android users choose Android because of cost and if all things were equal, they'd choose Apple. There's no logical foundation for that thought process. Could Apple increase their marketshare with a lower cost budget iPhone? I think they could. To what extent their marketshare would increase is up for debate.

Chasing marketshare unwise? I know of someone who use to be at Apple that would argue that you're not exactly right. Guess who.
 
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Keep in mind a lot of Samsung users probably went to Apple after the exploding battery issue so these numbers are higher than they would normally be otherwise.
 
Lets be mean: in 10 years from 100% to 31% ! ... I love my iPhone but Android is as good.
100%? It took Apple years to chip away at Blackberry's market share. Meanwhile, you had MS come and go,the rise of Samsung and then a whole bunch of Android phones too. All things considered, Apple is doing well.
 
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Apple had the first smartphone. That means they had 100℅ of that market.

I think Kyocera, Palm, and RIM would disagree with you...

I had the 6035, Palm Treo and several versions of Blackberry years before the first iPhone was introduced. The iPhone was a market changer and a truly revolutionary and market expanding product for sure, but the market was there without it.
 
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