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iPhone Coming to Verizon... Next Year?
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..No...i could care less....like right now. My care factor for this subject just went down...see?
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ico1.htm
All i know is, I'm not ever, ever purchasing an iPhone with a big red ugly checkmark on it, which I know Verizon would require.
Just switched from VZW to ATT to get 2 iPhone 3g's. For the most part we are happy with the overall performance of the 3g network...oddly enough our Verizon signal was very strong around here & could get signal in our underground concrete bunker
It's called the proper way of quoting. That's why I used quotes, see when you assume... You make an...
Hey, as for turning this into a "JD Power" debate, you in reality did. But, I have to ask... why the hostility? I'm not a user of VZW, I'm just responding back to the claims that VZW sucks which you seem to be implying.
Again... why the hostility?
No, the main topic of the thread was whether or not 9 to 5's rumor of Apple going to VZW were true on not. YOU made it a technical debate, not me.
I don't care about the back end. I'm just stating consumer facts. If you can't accept them, well....
Again... why the hostility?
I know that EVDO is a "recognized 3G technology." (Oh, look I used quotes... does that mean I'm mocking you?) I just stated that I found it INTERESTING that Apple would change their naming conventions. I also acknowledged that it was a long shot. I never was claiming to be serious. Perhaps you should learn how to "read between the lines?"
Oh, that's right... you're hostile and like to assume...
Whether or not Apple is developing an EVDO iPhone, and when such an iPhone might be ready, has nothing to do with any exclusivity agreement with AT&T. There is a whole wide world out there, and all kinds of cell phone carriers that DON'T have an exclusivity agreement in their countries, and all kinds of cell phone users who would have an iPhone right now if only they could choose another carrier besides Rogers (as an example). The larger global market wants carrier choice, and AT&T's exclusivity arrangement in one single country shouldn't affect that.
Sorry... huh? It's gone through some natural evolution, but there was no big overhaul that I recall.
And Apple would comply... by putting it on the inside.
Or telling them to get bent.
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I realize that a lot of people think Verizon will be lots better than AT&T, but as someone who was on Sprint and Verizon for years before switching to AT&T, AND as someone who knows a former VZW employee (not retail, in their software development and backend department) CDMA is really not much better. It's subject to cell breathing and all of the exact same issues that 3G has, only there is no "edge" to fall back to. Verizon's veneer of being such a reliable network will fade pretty quickly, exposing all the cracks and creaks underneath. The only difference is that VZW's techs won't listen, and will probably blame the iPhone for issues even more than AT&T reps do.
That said, I welcome the attempt if the rumor happens to be true. I think what I've been saying about this for a while now will be proven right. Vindication will be sweet.
Well as a former ATT and former T-Mo client that NOW uses Verizon, I can safely say that Verizon's service is MUCH better then the previously mentioned cell service companies in exactly every way that you say Verizon is worse. BUT i also realize that it is based on what area you are in etc.
Yes T-Mo and ATT might be better in some areas, but in others Verizon is. But what i can say, is that with all my traveling, my Verizon phone has worked everywhere in the US I have been, whereas my ATT and T-Mo phones have failed me, as they do currently for my friends and family who travel with me. If someone's phone doesn't work or has no service they always come ask me to use my VZW phone. SO, its all in who ya speak with as to what service is better.
So for me, VZW's "veneer of being such a reliable network" hasn't cracked a bit! It's still really shiny!
Just for the simple fact that iPhone hardware would have to change makes me say this is false. I mean they make the phone work on networks all over the world and then they will make one different model for one carrier in the US?
Only thing these type of rumors are good for is to give apple some power when negotiating with att.
Only thing these type of rumors are good for is to give apple some power when negotiating with att.
Arn, I think you are right...
Although as much as I loved AT&T at my house in Florida, ever since I moved to New York City for college, I wouldn't mind a nice VZW iPhone
Why? Verizon sucks here.
I love my AT&T. Jobs will surprise us all......
I sincerely believe that at January's MacWorld, Steve will suprise us all with some sort of announcement. It might be a hardware announcement or a business deal announcement......but probably both. With android out and about I really think Apple is going to want to make a bigger footprint in the US. And for them to do that they will have to be on multiple carriers.....perhaps sooner than they had planned.
MacWorld 2009 is going to be extremely HOT!!
I sincerely believe that at January's MacWorld, Steve will suprise us all with some sort of announcement. It might be a hardware announcement or a business deal announcement......but probably both. With android out and about I really think Apple is going to want to make a bigger footprint in the US. And for them to do that they will have to be on multiple carriers.....perhaps sooner than they had planned.
MacWorld 2009 is going to be extremely HOT!!
Apple would be better served to wait until 2011 or so and Verizon gets their LTE network up and running in the 700MHz band. Then it can release a 3G GSM phone and an LTE phone, and eventually drop the 3G phone for LTE only. The only question is would they have to put both GSM and CDMA parts in the LTE phone so those roaming outside the LTE coverage area could fall back to either ATT/T-Mobile GSM networks or Verizons CDMA network. Maybe by then the chips can be fabbed at 32nm and it wont matter because baseband chip power consumption will be a quarter of what it is now...
Who said I was being hostile? I was simply rebutting an argument made against my post. You assumed I was being hostile
And I made a technical analysis of why it's probably not true. Now, I can only speculate on your motive here and I acknowledge that, but it seems like you took an awful lot of offense to that technical analysis and chose to attack it based on your differing opinion of Verizon.
It's just a forum, you know. No need to get bent out of shape. We're all cool here. Or maybe I'm just assuming we're all cool here.
*shrug* If the shoe fits...
Aparently you did with your hostility which I still find unwarranted.
Which your original comment seemed to more address why VZW's service is technically not strong. I merely commented that while that may be true, in terms of the overall users and customer satisfaction, VZW is consistently ranked higher than AT&T ever was.
Ultimately, picking QUALITY service ultimately depends on where you live which is why you see the variance of preferences on this board. In some parts of the country, there is no way I'd choose VZW. In other parts, there's no way I'd choose AT&T. You, instead, seem to make a "blanket judgement" based on your friend's (who was a former VZW employee) comment. I instead chose the route of customer satisfaction where it is clearly shown that AT&T doesn't have a great record.
I could care less about the "technical analysis." I personally choose to go on customer satisfaction than on what one former employee of VZW has said.
It does... very nicely.
Now who's being hostile?
And no one is barring anyone from that. But, it's not germane to the here and now anyway, because we still haven't figured out if the rumor is true.
I did? Interesting, my post indicated what challenges Apple would face in making a globally-compatible 3G iPhone. It also predicted that some of the issues we've seen with 3G will probably show up on Verizon to some extent. It didn't say Verizon has the worst coverage everywhere, nor did I make any statements at all as to Verizon's current level of coverage.
You, however, made the assumption that I unilaterally judged VZW to be universally bad. That assumption is incorrect.
That's quite evident. If you choose not to fully informed before advocating an about-face on the iPhone's technological direction, that's your prerogative, Just don't accuse others of making assumptions, when clearly you're making quite a few of your own.
Yes but both ATT and Verizon are going to LTE
Yes, but both AT&T and Verizon are going to LTE so when that happens Apple could make an iPhone which works on both Networks.
Yes, but both AT&T and Verizon are going to LTE so when that happens Apple could make an iPhone which works on both Networks.
You're still looking 5-6 years out before LTE is deployed on either network, if not more. It's not just technical, but economic pressures as well. Both AT&T and Verizon still need to reap some returns from the 3G network for a while before they can plow that money into building LTE. And both still need to complete the wind-down of their 1G technologies, as well as finish the migration of 2G networks to 3G (yes, Verizon still has plenty of 2/2.5G only regions). And Verizon also has to finish integrating Alltel, from towers to billing systems.
In any case, there's a lot of doubt that people are planning on buying lots of new gadgets right now, so we certainly won't see LTE happening next year, or even the year after. AT&T and Verizon will likely milk 3G for all they can before moving on to the next step. So LTE won't be in time for a VZW iPhone next year. Even if they started on LTE this very moment, it wouldn't be ready.
We also don't know what Verizon's LTE will look like. The air interface might be the same (just like W-CDMA and CDMA share some similarities), but the platform might still be jsut "diifferent enough" to make it incompatible. It all depends on VZW does with it.
iphone would sell almost double and be the number-one selling phone out there if it were also on verizon. i know so many people who won't buy the iphone because they don't want to leave verizon.
apple needs to get out of that at&t contract even if it costs them some dough.
apple needs to get out of that at&t contract even if it costs them some dough.
Not likely
Verizon wants WAY too much control over handsets to sell an iPhone. Apple wouldn't accept a V logo on their products. In addition, they wouldn't do "Get It Now" and probably wouldn't do VCAST.
As far as reception goes, in my area, VZW is the king of reception among national carriers. US Cellular may be even better, but they're regional. Verizon's coverage definitely isn't perfect, but they beat ATT by a wide margin in most northern states. In the South it may be a different story.
Verizon wants WAY too much control over handsets to sell an iPhone. Apple wouldn't accept a V logo on their products. In addition, they wouldn't do "Get It Now" and probably wouldn't do VCAST.
As far as reception goes, in my area, VZW is the king of reception among national carriers. US Cellular may be even better, but they're regional. Verizon's coverage definitely isn't perfect, but they beat ATT by a wide margin in most northern states. In the South it may be a different story.