I completely agree. Plus data plans are so ridiculously high. Sprint at least you can get vision for $15 a month.
Treo is where I'm staying for now.
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iPhone Details: 5 Years on AT&T, Verizon's Answer?
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I completely agree. Plus data plans are so ridiculously high. Sprint at least you can get vision for $15 a month.
Treo is where I'm staying for now.
In other news, Microsoft is working on innovative touch-screen technologies, so maybe that's what Verizon is hoping to offer.
Funniest quote of the day:
"I'm glad we have (the iPhone) in our bag," he says. "Others will try to match it, but for a period of time, they're going to be playing catch-up."
iPhone-welcome to 2004. Time for you to catch up to my Pocket PC.
"I'm glad we have (the iPhone) in our bag," he says. "Others will try to match it, but for a period of time, they're going to be playing catch-up."
iPhone-welcome to 2004. Time for you to catch up to my Pocket PC.
Yeah I heard that too, it's a top secret M$ development of course. There have been leaks and I hear it is a 'spin wheel' and it has ten holes in it around the edge and in each hole are numbers 0 through 9. You 'touch' by putting your finger in the hole and rotate and this wheel thing turns with a clicking sound (M$ patent on 'spin wheel' is pending). Once turned all the way (to a M$ patented stop pin) you let go and the wheel spins (automatically!) back so you can select the next hole number and so on. Redmond think it will be a sensation.
With T-Mobile I get unlimited data (BB BIS) for $19.99 / month. That's $15 less than Cingular. I'll stick with T-Mo...
Wrong. Apple is the clear winner of this deal. I don't have to see their actual contract. I've seen others, which all say the same thing: Even though we're partnering with you, WE are going to take all the credit and the money while you do all the work.
Better service wins
As a mobile service provider, how do you advertise if you have the most dropped calls? Exaggerate, of course. Claim that you have the fewest dropped calls. A surprisingly large number will believe you until they subscribe and actually experience the real service. For major U.S. markets, Consumers Reports rates Verizon on top for service, and Cingular at the bottom. That's why Apple went to Verizon first.
There is no doubt that the iPhone smartphone is amazingly cool and Verizon made a major tactical mistake by not joining Apple's vision of the future. (Denny Strigl who?) But then Verizon has never been known for having a Steve Jobs type vision. Further, AT&T's 5-year lock on the iPhone is a gigantic feather in their cap ... if they can come through with improved service. Apple customers expect the best and become EXTREMELY vocal when service is not what it is supposed to be. (AT&T, n.b.!)
For years I've been locked into the awesome Palm OS and Palm Desktop app, and so the mobile product for me is the Palm Treo smartphone via Verizon. The 4-Gb SD card gives me all of the MP3s that I could possibly want to carry around. VoiceDial and CallRec tied to the programmable button are my most used apps followed by an old copy of thinkDB's relational database software that manages over a dozen frequently used databases.
Though I will admire all of my friends' iPhones -- and I know at least 15 who will be buying them -- I will not envy them. What I would really like from Verizon is an advanced Palm Treo smartphone with the new Linux OS and the capability of accommodating an 8-Gb SD card and syncable to the matching Desktop running on my MacBook Pro. A 2-Mp camera with flash would also be much appreciated. (Palm & Verizon, n.b.!)
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As a mobile service provider, how do you advertise if you have the most dropped calls? Exaggerate, of course. Claim that you have the fewest dropped calls. A surprisingly large number will believe you until they subscribe and actually experience the real service. For major U.S. markets, Consumers Reports rates Verizon on top for service, and Cingular at the bottom. That's why Apple went to Verizon first.
There is no doubt that the iPhone smartphone is amazingly cool and Verizon made a major tactical mistake by not joining Apple's vision of the future. (Denny Strigl who?) But then Verizon has never been known for having a Steve Jobs type vision. Further, AT&T's 5-year lock on the iPhone is a gigantic feather in their cap ... if they can come through with improved service. Apple customers expect the best and become EXTREMELY vocal when service is not what it is supposed to be. (AT&T, n.b.!)
For years I've been locked into the awesome Palm OS and Palm Desktop app, and so the mobile product for me is the Palm Treo smartphone via Verizon. The 4-Gb SD card gives me all of the MP3s that I could possibly want to carry around. VoiceDial and CallRec tied to the programmable button are my most used apps followed by an old copy of thinkDB's relational database software that manages over a dozen frequently used databases.
Though I will admire all of my friends' iPhones -- and I know at least 15 who will be buying them -- I will not envy them. What I would really like from Verizon is an advanced Palm Treo smartphone with the new Linux OS and the capability of accommodating an 8-Gb SD card and syncable to the matching Desktop running on my MacBook Pro. A 2-Mp camera with flash would also be much appreciated. (Palm & Verizon, n.b.!)
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What I was saying wasn't a progress joke... it was a joke about the long contract that Apple has with Cingular... there is no way in hell I will be switching from Sprint unless everyone I now on the east side of the mississippi river switches to Cingular. So I will wait for the Sprint version of the iPhone, if one ever comes out.
It was joke man. You are trying too hard to get insulted.
As a mobile service provider, how do you advertise if you have the most dropped calls? Exaggerate, of course. Claim that you have the fewest dropped calls. A surprisingly large number will believe you until they subscribe and actually experience the real service. For major U.S. markets, Consumers Reports rates Verizon on top for service, and Cingular at the bottom. That's why Apple went to Verizon first.
There is no doubt that the iPhone smartphone is amazingly cool and Verizon made a major tactical mistake by not joining Apple's vision of the future. (Denny Strigl who?) But then Verizon has never been known for having a Steve Jobs type vision. Further, AT&T's 5-year lock on the iPhone is a gigantic feather in their cap ... if they can come through with improved service. Apple customers expect the best and become EXTREMELY vocal when service is not what it is supposed to be. (AT&T, n.b.!)
For years I've been locked into the awesome Palm OS and Palm Desktop app, and so the mobile product for me is the Palm Treo smartphone via Verizon. The 4-Gb SD card gives me all of the MP3s that I could possibly want to carry around. VoiceDial and CallRec tied to the programmable button are my most used apps followed by an old copy of thinkDB's relational database software that manages over a dozen frequently used databases.
Though I will admire all of my friends' iPhones -- and I know at least 15 who will be buying them -- I will not envy them. What I would really like from Verizon is an advanced Palm Treo smartphone with the new Linux OS and the capability of accommodating an 8-Gb SD card and syncable to the matching Desktop running on my MacBook Pro. A 2-Mp camera with flash would also be much appreciated. (Palm & Verizon, n.b.!)
The new Treo will be based on what Palm makes, it will be completely independent from what Verizon or Sprint or Cingular wants.
Dude... Pocket PCs are crap... where have you been for the last three years. I really mean nothing by it but have you seen the keynote? I admit that the iPhone is flashy and functional and that the whole Cingular thing sucks but every Pocket PC made sucks serious arse. Even the Treo I am waitingto by pales in comparison, but I will never say that the iPhone has any catching up to do.
Everything you claim that the reps say is completely wrong. Been using PalmOS, Windows Mobile and that crappy blackberry stuff (Symbian) since 04 and have never had a problem syncing them with my iBook without software. Then I discover the MissingSync my this Mark guy and now I am in heaven.
You can't blame your own difficulties with technology on the part of the tech provider. You are correct about most reps though, they never have a clue as to what the freak is going on. I sold T-Mobile and those guys were just plain idiots.
The verizon "iPhone" will offer the following "features":
Limited blue tooth - don't expect to do much more than turn it on and off.
Visual voice mail - you will be able to see that you have a voice mail message
Special "new" internet browser - for an extra $4.99 per month
Ability to watch movies in landscape mode for $3.99 per movie (those you take with your phone will only cost $1.99 to watch)
Incorporate an mp3 player - just don't expect it to connect to anything unless you pay an extra $$$ per month not to mention only being able to get your mp3 files from Verizon and no other carrier (likely they won't be mp3 but some other proprietary format).
WiFi which will work very well except you need to pay, you guessed it, another $2.99 per month to activate it plus an additional daily or monthly fee to join what ever wireless hotspot is around. The $2.99 per month is required so they can still make some money if you join your home wireless network.
I like Verizon's coverage I just HATE the way they nickel and dime you for every feature they tend to cripple in a phone.
Limited blue tooth - don't expect to do much more than turn it on and off.
Visual voice mail - you will be able to see that you have a voice mail message
Special "new" internet browser - for an extra $4.99 per month
Ability to watch movies in landscape mode for $3.99 per movie (those you take with your phone will only cost $1.99 to watch)
Incorporate an mp3 player - just don't expect it to connect to anything unless you pay an extra $$$ per month not to mention only being able to get your mp3 files from Verizon and no other carrier (likely they won't be mp3 but some other proprietary format).
WiFi which will work very well except you need to pay, you guessed it, another $2.99 per month to activate it plus an additional daily or monthly fee to join what ever wireless hotspot is around. The $2.99 per month is required so they can still make some money if you join your home wireless network.
I like Verizon's coverage I just HATE the way they nickel and dime you for every feature they tend to cripple in a phone.
I studied economics for a year and it is true that Europe also has the highest rate of unemplyment, is that one of the reasons people over there cannot afford the iPhone?
We know America sucks when it comes to cell phones but is there is a way you can word that without soundling like your just insulting the country that provides a good portion of the worlds tech.
Okay man... I will put the pipe down, but Apple left me with no choice. This will also be my first Apple product I won't use. I do hope that you are correct about the Linux thing. The Palm OS is wonderful but it is a bit 20th century. I am not too big on what MS was thinking with Vista, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of the glits and glamour of Vista in the PalmOS (make it more practical and user friendly of course). When it does come out by the end of this year I will be in line for it at a Sprint store as well.
well, if it is true, it will be a good news for me because I don't use my cellphone much. sometimes, I feel I don't need contract at all. so if AT&T will do this, I will be happy. I think that the purchase with two years contract will be dropped the price. but if I want to have pay & go plan, it will be the same price as Apple announced before. but whatever I just want one now. it's time to chage my phone. so waiting is much worthy for me.
hack???
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If someone can HACK the APPLE TV...
Why can't someone here hack the IPHONE...???
I can see it now...
A video on MacRumors showing someone who hacked the iphone to work on another network.
I can even see a market here for some kind of device which allows for Verizon users to use the iphone.
Bring back the love!!! Bring back the hope!!!
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If someone can HACK the APPLE TV...
Why can't someone here hack the IPHONE...???
I can see it now...
A video on MacRumors showing someone who hacked the iphone to work on another network.
I can even see a market here for some kind of device which allows for Verizon users to use the iphone.
Bring back the love!!! Bring back the hope!!!
...That might be the most absurd thing I've ever read on these boards. I mean, I like Apple as much as the next Mac-fan here, but come on. The writing was on the wall for the NetBurst architecture as soon as the Pentium M started showing significantly improved performance was possible without huge clock-speeds. Everyone knew it was going to grow into a chip to replace the P4 and its ilk. Apple switched to Intel on the strength of their already-established roadmap vs. IBM's floundering one. Intel was set out to take back the lead well before Apple switched to them.
I read the wall a little differently
The Netburst problem was only indirectly high clock speed - the real culprit was power consumption and therefore heat output.
If we had dual-core 12 GHz Pentium 4 chips running on 20 watts today, everyone would be saying what a brilliant move the Netburst architecture was.
Instead, they ended up using a huge amount of power just to come close to 4 GHz.
But I agree that gnasher729's comment was really absurd.
The Netburst problem was only indirectly high clock speed - the real culprit was power consumption and therefore heat output.
If we had dual-core 12 GHz Pentium 4 chips running on 20 watts today, everyone would be saying what a brilliant move the Netburst architecture was.
Instead, they ended up using a huge amount of power just to come close to 4 GHz.
But I agree that gnasher729's comment was really absurd.
I don't think there's anyway at&t are gonna "lose". How can being
associated with the coolest innovative company around end you up
being the loser.
These companies have ridiculous amounts of dispoable income,
their problem is to get their brand into the eyes and mouths of
the young people of society. AT&T are looking at the iphone as
if anything a long term investment. Hence them signing without
even seeing the thing.
They said they want to reinforce the "hip" at&t brand to phase
out cingular. How better than to invest the latest kit from apple.
Meanwhile verizon is playing catch up. I think this is actually what
the industry needs, a shake up, these companies have slipped into
a relaxed controlled conveyor belt of slow developing products.
OnBdDcK
"Answer to the iPhone" = cheap crud with a gigantic price tag, and since it's Verizon, 9/10ths of the phone's features will be disabled so you have to use Verizon's crappy software to do whatever it is you want. I love my provider. ::twitch::
