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I've read that officers will use scanners to validate these. How does that work when they don't have a data connection? About 1/3 of my county has zero cell service and the county next to me has about 1/2 without service of any sort.

Awesome for those that want it! Not for me, personally, as I've been trying to use my phone less. I leave it home fairly often and just take a wallet. Feels nice to be disconnected. 😊
 
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Good luck explaining that to the cops.

So use the digital one at liquor stores and other places that require ID. Carry your card when you drive.

The whole "I don't want to hand my phone to the cops" is a straw man argument. If you don't want to hand your phone to the police, don't. Carry your regular DMV issued card and hand that to the police when you're stopped. Use the digital one as you see fit. It's not a hard concept to wrap you head around.

Most of us live in a state where we don't have this option. Myself included. Sometimes I make a quick run down the street to get something at the grocery store or convivence store. Since I usually use Apple Pay and sometimes leave my wallet at home, it would be nice to have this option as a "back up" in case I'm stopped and forgot my driver's license.

No one is saying that you HAVE to use the digital ID if it's available or if you sign up for it. It just gives you another option. Seeing as people are more likely to carry their phone than their wallet these days, it seems like a nice option to have.

You're free to not participate if you so wish.
 
As soon as this is live in Ontario, I can finally stop carrying a wallet!

I also wouldn’t mind a passport version of this…
I've read that officers will use scanners to validate these. How does that work when they don't have a data connection? About 1/3 of my county has zero cell service and the county next to me has about 1/2 without service of any sort.

Awesome for those that want it! Not for me, personally, as I've been trying to use my phone less. I leave it home fairly often and just take a wallet. Feels nice to be disconnected. 😊
You're still required to carry your physical ID. The digital version isn't a replacement for the physical version...at least that's how it is in all the states that have implemented it so far. Some establishments might not have the equipment to read the digital version. If the police doesn't have a good data signal to validate your digital ID, they'll ask for your physical one.
 
With Florida sunsetting it's current app, I really hope the new implementation they release next year includes Apple Wallet support. That would be amazing.
 
So use the digital one at liquor stores and other places that require ID. Carry your card when you drive.

The whole "I don't want to hand my phone to the cops" is a straw man argument. If you don't want to hand your phone to the police, don't. Carry your regular DMV issued card and hand that to the police when you're stopped. Use the digital one as you see fit. It's not a hard concept to wrap you head around.

Most of us live in a state where we don't have this option. Myself included. Sometimes I make a quick run down the street to get something at the grocery store or convivence store. Since I usually use Apple Pay and sometimes leave my wallet at home, it would be nice to have this option as a "back up" in case I'm stopped and forgot my driver's license.

No one is saying that you HAVE to use the digital ID if it's available or if you sign up for it. It just gives you another option. Seeing as people are more likely to carry their phone than their wallet these days, it seems like a nice option to have.

You're free to not participate if you so wish.
Not only is their argument ignorant nonsense, but how often are these people having encounters with police that this is even a concern? In my entire life, yes, I've had a couple of a traffic citations, which is fairly insignificant. In fact, when I was involved in a minor traffic incident some years ago, the cop never even asked for an ID. He literally ran my plate and said, “Are you [so-and-so]?”
 
I thought I wanted this until it dawned on me…I’d be giving my entire device.

No thank you🥹
Nope, that's not how it works. They'll have a device to read your digital ID via NFC and then pull up the information from the state's system.

It works the same way as contactless payments. Do you hand the cashier your phone when you pay for something?
 
You're still required to carry your physical ID. The digital version isn't a replacement for the physical version...at least that's how it is in all the states that have implemented it so far. Some establishments might not have the equipment to read the digital version. If the police doesn't have a good data signal to validate your digital ID, they'll ask for your physical one.
Fair enough.

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As soon as this is live in Ontario, and they are accepted in lieu of a physical card, I can finally stop carrying a wallet!
 
Is there any reason NOT to do this? What downside or privacy issue am I not thinking of?
I don't see one from a privacy standpoint. You get to verify what information is being transmitted or confirmed at the time of use.

The downside is the currently limited upside. You still have to carry your physical ID when driving. You can only use it at a few airports. You probably can't use it at many stores yet, though Ohio does have an iOS app for verifying IDs. (How many POS terminals currently support ISO 18013-5?)
 
It’s gonna be a while before bars and such start accepting this as proof of age for alcohol.

The ID in the wallet is pretty featureless and doesn’t include a photo or birthdate. You have to tap the ID, then the Info button in the upper right, then select the Driver’s License Info which will Face ID the user and *Then* show a picture and age.

You’ll still need to carry the card for a while yet
 
Just added my ID. Not at all what I thought it would be. I don't see where it'll be useful to me at all. Some stores around Columbus still don't even take NFC payments yet. The instructions on Apple's site say to hold my iPhone up to the business's iPhone—I've never seen a business use an iPhone in some capacity in checkout. This is gimmicky AF.
 
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