iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 Soon?

[YoungCreative]

such b.s.

we are paying a minimum of 70 bucks a month to AT&T yet people who went and got the iPod Touch are enjoying the benefits of the upgrade. $330 (starting at) phone and we have to continue to wait to reap the benefits (whatever they are by the way) without any knowledge of when they will update. (besides by the end of the month what a crock) talk about leaving your customers in the dark. This is my first dealing with an Apple product.. no wonder Gates is the richest man again this year.

Do you want it right now, or right? My iPhone works just fine right now. I'd rather have to wait for an update than scream for a patch.

Relax. Go grab a soda. Give a friend a call on your still functioning iPhone and listen to your favorite tunes you already have loaded on your iPhone.

 

[sanford]

I've been following this thread from afar for a few days, i gotta say for a while i was really worried one of the smaller members was gonna get eaten alive..

*looks around, realizing i'm one of the smaller members right now*

Crap!

I say apple will release the update today, only because i don't think apple has ever liked the idea of a weekend to begin their update. But i have no source, so no need to "truth" me

Okay, anecdotally, I've been using Macs for a long, long time -- longer than some of our forum veterans have been alive, probably -- and I've definitely been using Apple products exclusively during the entire iPod and OS X reign, and I know I've always been stunned to run software update on a Friday evening, see something there, check the references on the web and find out it was *just posted* that Friday some time. If it fries something there's no support over the weekend, but there are stores and you kill the stores with calls and drop-ins. And from AT&T's standpoint, I sure wouldn't want my business partner to release something that might break anything on one of their phones, and I'm not talking just about unlocks, but I mean break anything accidentally on a stock, vanilla AT&T-serviced phone, over the weekend, as they have very limited weekend support, but they do have corporate stores, and people would just kill those corporate stores over the weekend.

Releasing today and allow a 24-hour shakedown with support at least available before the weekend makes the most sense. Since when does Apple make sense?

So I'd love to take you up on it today, but I will stand by tomorrow. Or sometime around the fifth sign of the Biblical Apocalypse, which I doubt will arrive by Friday. But, what is it, Matthew?, does state, "You shall know neither the day nor the hour." We thought he was talking about the reckoning. Who knew he meant Apple?

I agree with you in theory, but based on years of experience working with these sort of things, this is dated. I highly, highly doubt they're scrambling to get it out the door as soon as possible. I doubt QA is even looking at it anymore, honestly. It may have once been dated earlier, but now it's dated later, and that date is either today or tomorrow, and that's when it will be released -- barring catastrophic issues, bugs or no bugs.

Do you want it right now, or right? My iPhone works just fine right now. I'd rather have to wait for an update than scream for a patch.

Relax. Go grab a soda. Give a friend a call on your still functioning iPhone and listen to your favorite tunes you already have loaded on your iPhone.

 

[GTiPhone]

The fact that is its not out right NOW, while iPod touch users are already bored with it, is disgusting and pathetic.


Oh it makes me so sad to say this but........this is what iPhone customers are getting from Apple:

Too little, too late.

Fact: Software updates with fixes, features and more is an exciting prospect for this device and a huge selling point over any other smart phone. (This was CERTAINLY the case in Jan.)

Fact: Apple has already completely diminished the excitement of this aspect, and has shown they really have no intention of keeping this product "fresh".

 

[freeborock]

The apple.com/iphone page is still the same, so I don,t think they will update it in the middle of the day. So it don't change tonight, I don't see a update coming by the end of the month! If Engadet web site have no clue about when(no post for a week)the update will hit, might not be good!

 

[martinmartin]

disgusting and pathetic? jeez.

i'm looking forward to this update but only in the sense that i'm hoping apple is including some new features that havent been disclosed yet. double tapping spacebar and double tapping the home button are great and everything, but not really a big deal for me. i dont think ill really ever use itunes wi-fi.

if they could fix the bluetooth/wi-fi incompatibility (in BMWs, not sure about other cars), then id be more excited. if they could allow emails to be immediately received on the phone like they were on my blackberry, then id be really excited. if they allow mass deletion of emails or copy and paste functionality, then id be exited. double tapping spacebar and the home button? not so exciting.

now if they could only miraculously fix the problem of the plastic black casing on the back of the phone from being lose and 'creaky' (1st one returned after 2 days because of this, thought it was a flaw in my phone - apparently not because the second one has the same thing and so do most the phones in the store)...

heres to hoping they slip in a few much needed features, not just double tapping and itunes wi-fi...

 

[emotion]

Some high-caliber whining going on in this thread. I'd say that I'd be wary of an update until they've jailbroken the Touch.

In fact Apple are probably waiting until that happens (keep watching TUAW)and then will patch that for the new iPhone firmware.

Fact: Software updates with fixes, features and more is an exciting prospect for this device and a huge selling point over any other smart phone.

Fact: Apple has already completely diminished the excitement of this aspect, and has shown they really have no intention of keeping this product "fresh".

We're 10 weeks after the launch of the device, with the Leopard launch just around the corner (which had devs pulled from it to get the iPhone out of the door).

You need to chill.

Try going outside or something.

 

[GTiPhone]

heres to hoping they slip in a few much needed features, not just double tapping and itunes wi-fi...

Not gonnna happen. If you are holding your breath, please exhale. What you've heard about is what we're getting and nothing more. Apple has shown they are not interested in having a double secret iPhone apps developement/release program. Whenever they come up with something, or have an idea that can make them a little more money, thats what they'll throw at us.

That is basically what updates to iPhone have been so far, and I don't imagine we wll even see ANY free features ever again.

1. Ringtones

2. iTunes store

What's next? What else can they charge us for?



I wonder if any of the developers put in charge of this garbage ever thought.......while working on the "starbucks button"......"Wow....this is ***** useless...."

 

[aristobrat]

You believe the majority of iPhone users are not savy, frequenty internet and Mac users? You thereby believe that most savy mac users don't check for news, uprades, and improvements for their products often? This is truly a fan boy product and thats the majority of who owns and uses it.

Stand in an Apple store for two hours during one of their busy times and watch the caliber of people who are buying iPhones now. They're not fanboys. Fanboys bought their iPhones on 06/29. Nowadays, it's virtually all regular, non-geeky folks. You know, the type of people who will still find the iPhone fresh.

With over 1 million iPhones sold, if your hypothesis was true, this thread would have far more people who felt like you participating. Far more.

 

[emotion]

What's next? What else can they charge us for?

Leopard. That's what we'll be charged for next (potentially extra features for iPhone buried in that).

Honestly you are better off ditching Apple products if this winds you up so much.

 

[MikieMikie]

That is basically what updates to iPhone have been so far, and I don't imagine we wll even see ANY free features ever again.

1. Ringtones

2. iTunes store

What's next? What else can they charge us for?

I wonder if any of the developers put in charge of this garbage ever thought.......while working on the "starbucks button"......"Wow....this is ***** useless...."

3. The Apple Store Wifi Purchase button.

And then there's always the
4. Auto Money Transfer To Steve's Bank Account(tm) button, coming to your iPhone soon.

And hey! We're left with one more icon slot, which I'm sure The Steve is busy figuring a way to make into a way of just tapping directly into our bank accounts.

I am so disappointed in Apple's current focus on revenue over quality. While I understand that they're a public company and need to increase earnings, it would be nice if they were a little less short-sighted and put some value in keeping customer loyalty by providing us with meaningful updates.

 

[GTiPhone]

Stand in an Apple store for two hours during one of their busy times and watch the caliber of people who are buying iPhones now. They're not fanboys. Fanboys bought their iPhones on 06/29. Nowadays, it's virtually all regular, non-geeky folks. You know, the type of people who will still find the iPhone fresh.

With over 1 million iPhones sold, if your hypothesis was true, this thread would have far more people who felt like you participating. Far more.

Not at all. There are, first of all, thousands upon thousands of users of these boards. Secondly, only a select few will bother to post on any forum, no matter how many users/members there are. Thats just the way it is. It is quite impossible to distinguish between when there are 400 users of a board or 4000. No distinction. There will always be tons of new and useless threads, and about 3 worthwhile threads with dozens of pages of responses.

What you are referring to are people standing in the Apple store looking at the iPhone, pretending they are going to buy it. Only in the last 2 weeks have sales spurred due to the price cut, but the average cell phone user and non-mac geek are still NOT anywhere near buying this product. Someone asked to use my phone the other day, someone I thought would be competent enough. I handed it to them and they proceeded to hit the screen with their finger and nearly dropped it in frustration because it "didn't work." Yeah, lots of those people buying iPhones right now, let me tell you.

The answer is, the majority of iPhone users are savy and aware and awaiting this update. The minority of iPhone users, are not.

 

[PShot07]

The iPhone is still very fresh. I have one and whenever I take it out there is always someone who wants to get their fingers all over it and pinch it and rotate it to see what will happen. It's sill magic to me even, and I've had it since launch.

I personally wasn't expecting a huge software update until the release of Mac OS 10.5, because I thought it would become more integrated with Macintosh. Granted, that would leave some PC users to whine.

In terms of what they have to update. I think the phone itself needs a better ringtone manager now. I want an easier and more streamlined way to give different groups of people on my phone different ringtones. Also, iChat is obviously a feature that will be on the phone soon. What about SMS messaging? We already have unlimited data, so adding that shouldn't be a problem.

I'm excited for the update. Apple will have some unexpected things in it (like they had with the previous update -- upload to web gallery). I'll admit to checking Macrumors where I think about my iPhone, just to see if it's been updated yet.

I'm excited. What iPhone user that knows of a pending major update wouldn't be?

 

[DeathChill]

3. The Apple Store Wifi Purchase button.

And then there's always the
4. Auto Money Transfer To Steve's Bank Account(tm) button, coming to your iPhone soon.

And hey! We're left with one more icon slot, which I'm sure The Steve is busy figuring a way to make into a way of just tapping directly into our bank accounts.

I am so disappointed in Apple's current focus on revenue over quality. While I understand that they're a public company and need to increase earnings, it would be nice if they were a little less short-sighted and put some value in keeping customer loyalty by providing us with meaningful updates.

I'd have to agree with this statement.

Apple could have pushed out MMS, video recording and updates to the SMS system yet we're getting an iTunes WiFi store.

I don't mind additional features like that, but I think it's fairly silly to put in things like an iTunes WiFi store when you're still lacking VERY basic functionality.

EDIT: Also, please don't feed me crap like "Well no one else even updates their phones," because that's simply not true. Apple just packaged everything so perfectly that people know when there is an update, unlike existing phones.

As well, I'd be fine with no updates if the basic functionality of every cheap phone sold in the last three years was available on my more expensive phone.

 

[MR0013]

I'd have to agree with this statement.

Apple could have pushed out MMS, video recording and updates to the SMS system yet we're getting an iTunes WiFi store.

I don't mind additional features like that, but I think it's fairly silly to put in things like an iTunes WiFi store when you're still lacking VERY basic functionality.

I agree too. Apple we need more than a wifi store of itunes.

 

[aristobrat]

While I understand that they're a public company and need to increase earnings, it would be nice if they were a little less short-sighted and put some value in keeping customer loyalty by providing us with meaningful updates.

How ever did Apple manage to build customer loyalty in the past? It used to be that a meaningful update meant a new generation of product.

It's only been the last year that Apple's been doing any sort of meaningful updates (like letting the 5G iPods run games when games were introduced on the 5.5G iPod, or putting YouTube and iPhoto streaming on the AppleTV), right?

Loyal customers existed for a long time before that...

 

[freeborock]

Why didn't I buy the iphone? Oh, it was free, but if I knew the only thing it was good for was music, i should got a ipod or something. att 8925 I'm coming to get you, since I had to sign a contract att!

 

[nickbates]

What you are referring to are people standing in the Apple store looking at the iPhone, pretending they are going to buy it. Only in the last 2 weeks have sales spurred due to the price cut, but the average cell phone user and non-mac geek are still NOT anywhere near buying this product. Someone asked to use my phone the other day, someone I thought would be competent enough. I handed it to them and they proceeded to hit the screen with their finger and nearly dropped it in frustration because it "didn't work." Yeah, lots of those people buying iPhones right now, let me tell you.

The answer is, the majority of iPhone users are savy and aware and awaiting this update. The minority of iPhone users, are not.

Seriously, where do you get this stuff? Yuu are so far off-base you have no clue. Case in point:

Here is food for thought as we await a basically useless update:

3. 3 months after the launch of the iPhone (actually 9 months if you consider it has NOT changed since we saw it unveiled), we have no support, no improvements, no bug fixes, no added features. Forget new and exciting Apps (well don't forget them, just use installer.app instead of holding your breath).

Wrong, iPhone was "announced" January of this year, but before release you have absolutely no clue how many times it had been revised or changed. Even the two or three reporters that received review units 2 weeks before launch saw a difference than what they saw at the announcement. An article came out stating that field testers from AT&T as well as Apple had been testing and recommending changes that worked itself into the iPhone before launch.

And yes, there were a couple of updates already to fix some bugs... and what happened to when we got that mysterious update that seemed to just "appear" on our iPhones with out us having to sync? Everyone was so baffled but so happy and yet, it's all but forgotten as people like you spread so much negativity towards the iPhone instead of enjoying what you have! You should just return your iPhone as it's obvious you will never be happy with it.

 

[aristobrat]

Its about the lack of support. Lack of support. Lack of support. That's what updates do. Support (and improve or fix) the product.

We, people who are shelling money out for the iPhone regularly, bought it under the guise of futures updates and apps to come, something we expected with a reasonable frequency and within a reasonable time from launch. Those hopes have actually been thrown out by 2 things: The Need for fixes for the crap they've already shipped us, and Revenue over Quality policy at Apple.

Hopefully you are learning.

Where are you coming from?

Apple's already released TWO iPhone updates to address bugs. Updates providing support, support, support, support, and even adding a new feature (photo gallery). Two updates in less than 60 days, with a third one right around the corner.

IIRC, your precious iPhone is being updated more frequently than OS X is.

Out of curiosity, how old are you?

 

[Fuchal]

You need to save complaining for what ISN'T in this update until AFTER the update comes out. Right now no one knows what isn't in the update. We only know of features that will be in the update from what we've seen in preview UK builds and what Steve told us about the wi-fi store.

Obviously there is something different that needs testing that is not just the wi-fi store, because obviously the wi-fi store was created to work on both the iPhone and iPod Touch from the start. There's no reason they would have to re-write parts to work on the iPhone after the fact - that would be idiotic and piss poor software development planning.

Hopefully they are squashing bugs and getting meaningful testing done. And hopefully there is something else new as well, but who knows.

 

[DeathChill]

I'm also curious if this update addresses the Safari issue I've been having:
Safari randomly shuts down when I'm surfing the web (not listening to the iPod though).

Am I the only one experiencing this? It's not like it's once and awhile, it happens maybe twice an hour or so (give or take).

 

[Gonzlobo]

If nothing is an indication, the software won't be released today. Um, what software are we referring to?

 

[aristobrat]

What you are referring to are people standing in the Apple store looking at the iPhone, pretending they are going to buy it.

No, I'm not referring to that at all. I'm talking about the people who are buying iPhones. That's why I suggested you go into any Apple store and watch who are actually buying them, as what you're saying isn't matching what I'm seeing.

My other half works at an Apple retail store, and between what I've seen (with my own two eyes, as I'm in the store quite often) and what I hear from him and his co-workers, it's not the fanboys that are anywhere near the majority of the sales anymore. It's regular folks who are still having all sorts of questions about how to activate the phone and copy their music over to it.

 

[MR0013]

I love my iPhone as it is, but it will make me happy to see

1. Copy & Paste
2. Video Rec
3. Flash
4. Save Photos from e-mail & safary
5. Send & Recive Photos Messenger.
6. FM Radio (many mp3 player have radio)
7. iChat or a Messenger

and more and only see Wi-Fi iTunes.

 

[powderblue17]

Not at all. There are, first of all, thousands upon thousands of users of these boards. Secondly, only a select few will bother to post on any forum, no matter how many users/members there are. Thats just the way it is. It is quite impossible to distinguish between when there are 400 users of a board or 4000. No distinction. There will always be tons of new and useless threads, and about 3 worthwhile threads with dozens of pages of responses.

What you are referring to are people standing in the Apple store looking at the iPhone, pretending they are going to buy it. Only in the last 2 weeks have sales spurred due to the price cut, but the average cell phone user and non-mac geek are still NOT anywhere near buying this product. Someone asked to use my phone the other day, someone I thought would be competent enough. I handed it to them and they proceeded to hit the screen with their finger and nearly dropped it in frustration because it "didn't work." Yeah, lots of those people buying iPhones right now, let me tell you.

The answer is, the majority of iPhone users are savy and aware and awaiting this update. The minority of iPhone users, are not.

If you honestly believe this then you seriously need to get out some more or be around some people who aren't complete geeks for a while because most Mac owners don't spend their time going to tech websites and looking for rumors and updates as you somehow believe. The same is true for iPhone users. If you hate your iPhone so much then why did you get it in the first place? They promised new features over the life of the iPhone, not in the first 3 months. What other phones are updated by their manufacturer as easily as the iPhone or even at all? It's obvious that it's not for you so if I were you I would sell it and get something like the Nokia n95 which is much better for uber-geeks like yourself. It has like 500 different features for you and even though they are all a pain in the ass to use I'm sure you won't mind because you obviously don't appreciate elegant user-interfaces and intuitive features.

 

[drchipinski]

WOW.

My iphone has had all types of issues from poor reception, will not sync with Outlook, continues to sync over and over (non-stop) etc.

I still am waiting for a task list, cut and paste and better battery life...but I will survive.

Is it the best phone out there....more than likely yes. Are there plenty of issues with the iphone. Yes.

Every time I wander over the my local Apple Store there are always at least 10 people exchanging their defective phones out.

I know...I know... great customer service right?

They need to do an update...but after reading about a new PDA, we may never see a task list, etc.