iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 Soon?

[sanford]

They need to do an update...but after reading about a new PDA, we may never see a task list, etc.

There has been an Apple PDA rumor for longer than there was an Apple phone rumor, with much less evidence to support Apple was actively seeking to make a going concern. Just look how well TabletPC has done. My vote is: Apple considers iPhone to be the Apple PDA.

And now I don't give a flip about the iPhone update for today. I just read the Sony's PSN Network for PS3 is confirmed by the developer for getting the Jericho demo today, just like everyone else's system. I can just wait on that, and on that I've got a promise *and* a date.

p.s. Hope it isn't awful. That would be a letdown.

 

[Klaxons2012]

Actually, I was 30th in line on day one and have been happy with my iPhone ever since.

I walked into a store a week later and bought mine. Five minute wait. Does that make you pathetic for waiting in line for phone? I'm sure there were better things you could do with your time.

The price cut didn't upset me because I paid what I thought it was worth at the time and of course I am excited about any update that may come down, but again, I don't "troll" the boards with false rumors and then get disappointed after spending hours pushing "check for updates" in itunes (which many here have admitted to, hence my initial response) only to come on here to whine about how Apple is being unfair!

I'll admit that clicking "check for updates" repeatedly is pretty low, but i think your hit below the belt concerning the time people spend on this board/looking for this update. I think if the boards are such a waste of time, why are you on it then? This board is for speculation and rumors, it's okay to mull over an update here.

The fact that you think Apple "owes" you an update makes YOU the pathetic moron.

No, it makes me a customer that's concerned with their investment not having the same features as a product that's a couple hundred less than i paid for. I also would like to see Safari get worked over so i can listen to my ipod and surf at the same time. Also, i'd like to see what other updates Apple may have in store. I'd love to see an update with A2DP support personally. Apple "owes" me this update because as mentioned in keynotes, Apple would supply the iPhone with updates. As an iPhone owner, i'm owed these updates.

And such a sought after update?

600 comments? I think there are some people looking for this update. Google "iphone 1.1.1".

When it was vaguely announced as being only a WiFi Music store update with the possibility of a home button feature and international keyboard, all you pathetic people did was start demanding the same old sh*t of "I want my iChat and my MMS and my GPS" and so on. You should have realized what you bought, be happy with it and enjoy life!

I for one am happy with my iPhone.

Only a few people mentioned mms/ichat/gps, so let's not say "all you pathetic people" because not all of us are expecting that. Also, I don't see how these people are pathetic. If your needs are met, then I don't really understand why you're in this thread in the first place. It's annoying to see you hop on your high horse, attack everyone for not being apathetic about the status of their iPhone, and accuse us of neglecting girlfriends and wives. Just because you're happy with your iPhone, doesn't mean I have to be. I have the right as a member of this forum to discuss my anticipation of this update in hope that it'll fix some bugs, and give me this Wifi store that's been available for weeks on the iPod touch.

 

[bcooper0125]

What you are referring to are people standing in the Apple store looking at the iPhone, pretending they are going to buy it.
...
The answer is, the majority of iPhone users are savy and aware and awaiting this update. The minority of iPhone users, are not.

Clearly you have never stepped foot into an Apple store. I work at one in a mall here, and the majority of people buying them are not savvy at all in any way, shape or form when it comes to computers or phones, hell my MOM has one and didn't know how to use the damn thing out of the box. I train people daily on how to use these things, including those who purchased it without knowing how to use it, and they only got it because they heard so much about it and how it was a great phone.

The update is not owed to any of us, and like mentioned before, I'd rather have a fully functional iPhone with no bugs, than one that will brick my phone on a Friday night because it was released because people like you were "disgusted with Apple" because they couldn't push an update out fast enough for you.

You have no idea what is going on in Cupertino right now. You don't know if they are still fixing bugs or if it's even ready to go. You know nothing more of the product than we do. So stop complaining, and wait like the rest of us. You bitching and moaning because you can't have your iPhone update right now is getting quite old, and sounds like a really immature 12 year old.



And now, I'll just go back to reading the thread. I've said my peace.

 

[Marcjcd]

Brandon... As you have said your peace and now are only going to read I would guess you wont respond to this but I think your missing the main point to most people's reasoning on these boards.

I agree with pretty much everything your saying (the complaining has become rediculous, the update is not OWED to anyone, most are novice users, etc.). BUT, what I dont agree with, and actually your 1000% incorrect about is that no one knows anothing about the product. The product is already RUNNING on a different platform!!! You should know that obviously since you work in an APPLE store. The product is ACTIVE. I dont read many if ANY posts from iPod Touch users complaining that the Wi-Fi store is not working. That said, APPLE has choosen to not give access to Iphone users as of yet for some reason. THAT is the point of the reasoning of most people on these boards (except your occasional lunatic). Why is the product up and running but NOT for iphone customers?

Like I said earlier this board has gotten totally out of control with back and forth nonsense but for some of us the question is simple... Why is this program unavailable for iPhone users? If its because their are more features to this update then so be it. But if it releases with just the WiFi store some of us will question Apple's decision to make iPhone users wait.

Clearly you have never stepped foot into an Apple store. I work at one in a mall here, and the majority of people buying them are not savvy at all in any way, shape or form when it comes to computers or phones, hell my MOM has one and didn't know how to use the damn thing out of the box. I train people daily on how to use these things, including those who purchased it without knowing how to use it, and they only got it because they heard so much about it and how it was a great phone.

The update is not owed to any of us, and like mentioned before, I'd rather have a fully functional iPhone with no bugs, than one that will brick my phone on a Friday night because it was released because people like you were "disgusted with Apple" because they couldn't push an update out fast enough for you.

You have no idea what is going on in Cupertino right now. You don't know if they are still fixing bugs or if it's even ready to go. You know nothing more of the product than we do. So stop complaining, and wait like the rest of us. You bitching and moaning because you can't have your iPhone update right now is getting quite old, and sounds like a really immature 12 year old.



And now, I'll just go back to reading the thread. I've said my peace.

 

[GTiPhone]

WOW.

My iphone has had all types of issues from poor reception, will not sync with Outlook, continues to sync over and over (non-stop) etc.

I still am waiting for a task list, cut and paste and better battery life...but I will survive.

Is it the best phone out there....more than likely yes. Are there plenty of issues with the iphone. Yes.

Every time I wander over the my local Apple Store there are always at least 10 people exchanging their defective phones out.

I know...I know... great customer service right?

They need to do an update...but after reading about a new PDA, we may never see a task list, etc.

Great post.

We are hung out to dry so to speak. To quote Steve Jobs,

"We're working on the next iPhone and the one after that, and thinking about the one after that.."


Coupled with the information regarding a new PDA, it makes it quite clear what Apple's future entails. New products, new price tags, new bugs, new issues. Make the money quick, offer no support, actively damage 3rd party attempts at improvement, then forget it ever existed with the release of the next version.

 

[GTiPhone]

Woah, talk about sidetracking all of the points you were trying to make an hour ago.

I guess you can't argue with the fact that Apple has provided support by updating the iPhone twice in the last 60 days, and has another update right around the corner.

I guess you can't argue with the fact that it's not just fanboys who are buying the device nowadays, and I didn't even get to bring up Apple giving away one month of free 1-on-1 training with a Creative to all new iPhone buyers.

So now it's all about a return on your investment? Really? Something only quantifiable by you? Where's the fun in talking about that? Sigh. So how exactly do you figure out the ROI on a consumer product purchase?

You must have missed where I described that in its entirety. Its called.......are you ready?..................getting what you paid for.

An extreme example would be buying an iPhone and finding an iPod nano in the box. A less extreme, but still aggrivating example is buying an iPhone that almost works as advertised and its not updated or improved at all months after the purchase. It's almost like getting a defective unit and waiting months for a replacement.

Real nice the way you skate around the issue; YOU still have not address the numerous responses to you from various people when you claimed that the iPhone has not received any updates or support at all even though we have spelled out for you what the updates have been so far. Please address these claims and list your numerous bugs, or in other words, PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

I would except that would be against the rules on this forum, because there is an entire stickied thread containing page after page of bugs that have not been fixed. I am in no way selfishly talking about the bugs I'm experiencing, I'm referring to the bugs and issues experienced by most iPhone users.

Here's a simple question open to anyone with iPhone:

Does your browser crash alot? Has it done this since day one? Has Apple fixed this for you yet?

Also, was there any mention of the frequent browser crashing at the keynote in January?

Was there any mention of 1 out of every 3 calls being received by the iPhone?

No.

 

[aristobrat]

An extreme example would be buying an iPhone and finding an iPod nano in the box. A less extreme, but still aggrivating example is buying an iPhone that almost works as advertised and its not updated or improved at all months after the purchase. It's almost like getting a defective unit and waiting months for a replacement.

Again, Apple released a bug fix update 32 days after the iPhone was launched.
Apple released a second bug fix update 22 days after that.
Chances are that Apple will have release another functionality update that is assumed to have bug fixes before 40 days after that.

Apple also announced before the iPhone went on sale that it would not allow third-party native applications.

Why are you aggravated again?

 

[dadsp33k]

Here's a simple question open to anyone with iPhone:

Does your browser crash alot? Has it done this since day one? Has Apple fixed this for you yet?

Also, was there any mention of the frequent browser crashing at the keynote in January?

Was there any mention of 1 out of every 3 calls being received by the iPhone?

No.

i have not had any browser crashes since the last update (i had them frequently before that).

 

[Chris Welch]

Here's a simple question open to anyone with iPhone:

Does your browser crash alot? Has it done this since day one? Has Apple fixed this for you yet?

Also, was there any mention of the frequent browser crashing at the keynote in January?

Was there any mention of 1 out of every 3 calls being received by the iPhone?

No.

You act like these are issues being experienced by everyone. Are you really that foolish?

My browser crashes occasionally... but frequently? No.

And the whole 1 out of 3 calls thing... I don't even know what you're trying to get at. My iPhone hasn't missed a single call unless I've been in an area with virtually no service.

 

[Spanners]

Here's a simple question open to anyone with iPhone:

Does your browser crash alot? Has it done this since day one? Has Apple fixed this for you yet?

Honestly? No.

Also, was there any mention of the frequent browser crashing at the keynote in January?

Was there any mention of 1 out of every 3 calls being received by the iPhone?

No.

Come now... Since when does ANY CEO stand up on launch day and say

"Here is my great new widget, it is super. However I must tell you about it's really buggy feature..."

Really? Please point me in the direction of anyone, please!

Let's all get a bit of perspective.

 

[GTiPhone]

Again, Apple released a bug fix update 32 days after the iPhone was launched.
Apple released a second bug fix update 22 days after that.
Chances are that Apple will have release another functionality update that is assumed to have bug fixes before 40 days after that.

Apple also announced before the iPhone went on sale that it would not allow third-party native applications.

Why are you aggravated again?

The 3rd party app thing is certainly more of a gripe on my part than anything valid or worth bitching about.

You are making a case here for Apple based on freqeuncy being the key pro. That would be good if freqeuncy made any difference. They could have released only one update, or 30 updates since launch. It makes no difference. What makes a difference is if the updates actually fix problems. Problems that users are experiencing. Do I need to repeat that? Probably, because my points seem to get conveniently overlooked. What makes a difference is if the updates actually fix problems. Problems that users are experiencing.

 

[joshkugler]

I'm also curious if this update addresses the Safari issue I've been having:
Safari randomly shuts down when I'm surfing the web (not listening to the iPod though).

Am I the only one experiencing this? It's not like it's once and awhile, it happens maybe twice an hour or so (give or take).

No, you are not the only one. And I'd be satisfied if the only thing this next update fixed was that.

Also, If they can get Flash Player to work on the iPhone, then I'll be happy.
In my opinion, it's still not the TRUE internet, until it has plugins like Flash or Acrobat.

Copy and Paste would be nice, but I've been using my iPhone with ease sans this feature, so no big deal.

As far as Apps go, God bless the iPhone Dev Community. There have been several innovative 3rd party apps released, and more are on the way. When the iPhone 2 comes out next year, I plan on hacking the crap out of my phone, and getting some cool stuff that even the iPhone 2 won't have(thanks to Jobs/Apple's unwillingness to open it up). I have hacked mine once, and loved it, but I restored it because I wanted to get updates/fixes from Apple.

 

[GTiPhone]

My iPhone hasn't missed a single call unless I've been in an area with virtually no service.

This is an absurd statement, as you have absolutely no way of knowing this.

Come now... Since when does ANY CEO stand up on launch day and say

"Here is my great new widget, it is super. However I must tell you about it's really buggy feature..."

Really? Please point me in the direction of anyone, please!

Let's all get a bit of perspective.

You're right here, absolutely, but again....we are paying a premium.

 

[pwnz1337]

My iPhone isn't perfect.

My iPhone does not have 3G. My iPhone doesn't record video. My iPhone doesn't sync well with my outlook e-mail at work. My iPhone has locked up once or twice. My iPhone sometimes has slow internet. My iPhone's headphone jack is too shallow. My iPhone does not have the iTunes store. My iPhone doesn't have "official, natively installed" 3rd party apps.

My iPhone isn't perfect.


My iPhone is one of the most fun purchases i've ever made. It's easy to use, it's reliable, the interface is top notch, the features work as slick as ever, contacts are easy to manage, etc. Whenever I meet someone who notices I'm using an iPhone, I immediately hand it to them to let them play around with it. The first question is, how do I work it? I show them that there is one physical button, and the rest is on the screen, and after that I almost can't get the phone back because they are figuring out all of the neat things to do on the fly. My mom loves my iPhone, she can figure out how to do almost everything on it. People who don't know how to use technology love my iPhone. People who know everything about technology love my iPhone.

If you absolutely need 3g, video, itunes store, gps, etc, hold off on the iPhone. If you've got a little extra money to get a phone that is insanely easy to use, looks amazing, will constantly make you smile when you figure out a new feature or show others its cool features, and is just all around a solid phone/media player, join the iPhone club and give me a high five, you're gonna really like your new iPhone.

I'm psyched about a 1.1.1 release. More stability, itunes store, and maybe video out? Sweet. And in the future there could be some better apps and more functionality even still. Am I the only one that's not upset, but is excited?

Hope we can resolve some of the intra-user issues here. It's rainy where I am and that makes me grumpy, but I'm lookin on the bright side. Let's assume the other people on the boards here aren't out to get us. We just like technology right!

Peace

 

[GTiPhone]

What's going on in here?

LOL.

To sum up, more or less a disagreement amongst those who think Apple is god's gift to consumer world and those who expect the most value from their money.

Here is whats going on:

I feel, given my observations of Apple spanning the last year and looking ahead, that they are in a new relm of business. They are looking more at wow'ing people with product concepts, pleasing people with product releases, and then screwing people with product replacements. The iPhone is just first major example.

Some others feel that Apple should be left alone to do whatever they want, should be praised for each and every accomplishment, and that we should be happy with whatever we get from them, regardless of how much we spent at one time, or continue to spend monthly.

 

[Chris Welch]

This is an absurd statement, as you have absolutely no way of knowing this.

Uh, sure I do... I'm sure whoever tried to call would either leave a voicemail (making me realize the call was missed) or would tell me later that they had tried to call me. It isn't rocket science.

 

[dookie852]

LOL.

To sum up, more or less a disagreement amongst those who think Apple is god's gift to consumer world and those who expect the most value from their money.

Here is whats going on:

I feel, given my observations of Apple spanning the last year and looking ahead, that they are in a new relm of business. They are looking more at wow'ing people with product concepts, pleasing people with product releases, and then screwing people with product replacements. The iPhone is just first major example.

Some others feel that Apple should be left alone to do whatever they want, should be praised for each and every accomplishment, and that we should be happy with whatever we get from them, regardless of how much we spent at one time, or continue to spend monthly.

Your point doesn't make sense. You say "that we should be happy with whatever we get from them, regardless of how much we spent at one time."

Dude- YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING FROM THEM WHEN YOU DECIDED TO BUY IT. ALL OF THE FEATURES WERE CLEARLY DISCLOSED.

 

[aristobrat]

That's some pretty deep stuff. Apple's history is fairly long and complicated. I'll simply observe the outcome of the conversation.

Carry on.

It is pretty deep stuff, and for some folks that have purchased products from companies that have done exactly what GTiPhone is insinuating Apple is doing with the iPhone, Apple's post-launch iPhone updates aren't matching the "screwing people" inactivity that one would expect.

 

[mani]

Your point doesn't make sense. You say "that we should be happy with whatever we get from them, regardless of how much we spent at one time."

Dude- YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING FROM THEM WHEN YOU DECIDED TO BUY IT. ALL OF THE FEATURES WERE CLEARLY DISCLOSED.

The point is that there are companies which actually care for their customers _after_ the purchase, just look at the PSP. Sony constantly brought out major new features (browser, rss reader, visualisations, even GPS and a camera, PS3 compatibility and a PSOne emulator, ...)
That's what people are expecting and I think they have every right to do so.
To be fair: it took Sony about three years to bring out the updates I mentioned, so we'll have to see what Apple does, but when taking the past as a reference it doesn't look well.

 

[devilot]

Mod note: Quite a few off-topic posts have been deleted (and more will follow). Please keep the discussion ON TOPIC. Thanks.

 

[emotion]

The point is that there are companies which actually care for their customers _after_ the purchase, just look at the PSP.

Great example. A product that is seen as failing. Sony spent most of the early time chasing people around for cracking it's firmware.

Hmmm, that is such a good example of how not to do things.

I think the answer is in the middle here. Apple do need to encourage development on this interesting new platform, if they are not going to develop quickly themselves (however this may happen or have been slightly delayed due to Leopeard) they need to open things up to developers (and SDK may be delayed due to Leopard).

So you see until Leopard comes out in a few weeks we could all chill.

Or shall the whole thing just keep going in circles?

 

[ahand]

victory.