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iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 Soon?
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Hey let me answer this question.
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Some of use don't have broadband and are not likely to get it anytime soon. That is a big one.
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Some us travel a lot and lets face it traveling can suck if you don't have the right distractions.
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Allied with the above concepts, is the fact that there is more available from iTunes than just music. While I can't see myself purchasing a lot of excess, beyond music, there are certainly people interested in the stuff.
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Some of us DO NOT run Windows nor MAC OS/X. So iTunes itself is a bit useless. At least to the best of my knowledge as I haven't tried to run it under WINE. So a self contained media savvy cell has its appeal.
In any event these 4 things come to mind quick. I'm very much excited about the prospect of being able to get music at just about any hot spot I can find along with the rest of iTunes.
As Apple firms up Safari and the other apps the network awareness of this little devices will come in very handy. WiFi iTunes, the Touch and the iPhone represent Apple at its best. By no means perfect but certainly innovating.
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Firmware 1.1.1 on new iPhones?
Hi,
Just wondering whether, if i buy an iPhone in the next few days or in this week, whether it will already come pre-loaded with the new 1.1.1 firmware IF say it is announced this week as an update?
I'm planning to get an iPhone but am concerned about anySIM working if it is preloaded with 1.1.1
many thanks
very excited!
Hi,
Just wondering whether, if i buy an iPhone in the next few days or in this week, whether it will already come pre-loaded with the new 1.1.1 firmware IF say it is announced this week as an update?
I'm planning to get an iPhone but am concerned about anySIM working if it is preloaded with 1.1.1
many thanks
very excited!
As it stands WiFi iTunes can only be used via WiFi so if you do not have broadband or WiFi your pretty much screwed. Edge will not support Wifi itunes
Short answer: Who knows?
Long answer: It won't be announced, or likely not. You'll just drop your iPhone in your cradle and iTunes will ask you to update. If you run out and buy one this morning, probably better off at an AT&T Store than an Apple Store, you'll probably get a 1.0 phone -- as far as I know, 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 firmware were never shipped on iPhones; you just update when you first sync. I do think that the 1.1.x firmware will actually ship on iPhones so the WiFi Store is there out-of-the-box even if the owner won't allow iTunes to do the update.
Late last week iPhones on the Apple Store online picked up an LL suffix on the model number. This probably means they have the new firmware. They were shipping immediately. Apple Stores could be getting boxes of them this morning and they'll sell either version since all it is is a free software update. So at either an AT&T Store or an Apple Store you could try to get one without an LL at the end of the model number on the stock sticker. That should be a 1.0 phone.
Finally, are you sure you want to unlock your iPhone? You may easily blow your entire warranty, period, and any hope for an AppleCare plan. You'll lose features, at least Visual Voicemail and YouTube, possibly other existing features, probably future features. Tmobile's unlimited data plan is like US$40 while AT&T's is only $20 for the iPhone. Tmobile's voice plan pricing is a little better but it's not wildly better. And, remember, Tmobile has been very liberal about allowing use of any unlocked compatible phones on their network, but they seem to have a special view of iPhones on their network. As in, if they find out, they may kill your SIM. I've read at least one report of someone calling Tmobile about something non-technical, billing or something, maybe even adding a data plan, and casually mentioning they were using an iPhone with a Tmobile SIM and within about half an hour Tmobile zapped their SIM. So if they found out, who knows. And if it becomes a widespread thing as they fear potential litigation from AT&T and/or Apple, they may make it policy: no iPhones. And believe, if they want to find out what equipment you're using, they can and will. The kind of phone you're using already shows up in Tmobiles online account system; and if you switch phones, within an hour or so, it changes to the new phone. They know.
Long answer: It won't be announced, or likely not. You'll just drop your iPhone in your cradle and iTunes will ask you to update. If you run out and buy one this morning, probably better off at an AT&T Store than an Apple Store, you'll probably get a 1.0 phone -- as far as I know, 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 firmware were never shipped on iPhones; you just update when you first sync. I do think that the 1.1.x firmware will actually ship on iPhones so the WiFi Store is there out-of-the-box even if the owner won't allow iTunes to do the update.
Late last week iPhones on the Apple Store online picked up an LL suffix on the model number. This probably means they have the new firmware. They were shipping immediately. Apple Stores could be getting boxes of them this morning and they'll sell either version since all it is is a free software update. So at either an AT&T Store or an Apple Store you could try to get one without an LL at the end of the model number on the stock sticker. That should be a 1.0 phone.
Finally, are you sure you want to unlock your iPhone? You may easily blow your entire warranty, period, and any hope for an AppleCare plan. You'll lose features, at least Visual Voicemail and YouTube, possibly other existing features, probably future features. Tmobile's unlimited data plan is like US$40 while AT&T's is only $20 for the iPhone. Tmobile's voice plan pricing is a little better but it's not wildly better. And, remember, Tmobile has been very liberal about allowing use of any unlocked compatible phones on their network, but they seem to have a special view of iPhones on their network. As in, if they find out, they may kill your SIM. I've read at least one report of someone calling Tmobile about something non-technical, billing or something, maybe even adding a data plan, and casually mentioning they were using an iPhone with a Tmobile SIM and within about half an hour Tmobile zapped their SIM. So if they found out, who knows. And if it becomes a widespread thing as they fear potential litigation from AT&T and/or Apple, they may make it policy: no iPhones. And believe, if they want to find out what equipment you're using, they can and will. The kind of phone you're using already shows up in Tmobiles online account system; and if you switch phones, within an hour or so, it changes to the new phone. They know.
I'm looking forward to the iTunes WiFi Music Store, but I'm sorry, your list of reasons make no sense here:
True, i.e. great for the impulse buy.
Except ONLY the music part of the iTunes Music Store will be available through the iTunes WiFi service (which has already been report on extensively.)
If you don't run Windows or OS X and don't have iTunes, how did you activate your iPhone!?! This makes no sense at all. Oh, of course you could have unlocked it with one of the various methods, but then the iTunes WiFi service wouldn't work since you need an iTunes account to purchase music!
Otherwise, I do think the iTunes WiFi Music Store will be a fun addition to the iPhone. All the whiners that continually ask for iChat or MMS in this upcoming update are fooling themselves if they think there is going to be anything more than the iTunes WiFi, International Keyboard and maybe the Home Button update.
The people most vocal on this forum with their continuous complaints are actually the very small minority of the AVERAGE CELL PHONE CONSUMER. That's what you all don't get. Apple is very smart and knows what the majority of consumers will buy... just a simple phone that will play their music and an added bonus of surfing the web. That's about it. And the iPhone delivers that big time. But for the more geekier crowd (me included) and the business crowd of course we want all the bells and whistles that are possible, but these crowds are actually a very small minority of the cell phone market. The proof; with all your complaining of lack of features, look how much the iPhone has sold and so quickly. No other cell phone has sold that many so soon, ever... this means it has what it needs (for the moment) for the average person.
So, you are going to try and use EDGE when the iTunes WiFi service only works with WiFi? I may be misunderstanding what you mean here though.
True, i.e. great for the impulse buy.
Except ONLY the music part of the iTunes Music Store will be available through the iTunes WiFi service (which has already been report on extensively.)
If you don't run Windows or OS X and don't have iTunes, how did you activate your iPhone!?! This makes no sense at all. Oh, of course you could have unlocked it with one of the various methods, but then the iTunes WiFi service wouldn't work since you need an iTunes account to purchase music!
Otherwise, I do think the iTunes WiFi Music Store will be a fun addition to the iPhone. All the whiners that continually ask for iChat or MMS in this upcoming update are fooling themselves if they think there is going to be anything more than the iTunes WiFi, International Keyboard and maybe the Home Button update.
The people most vocal on this forum with their continuous complaints are actually the very small minority of the AVERAGE CELL PHONE CONSUMER. That's what you all don't get. Apple is very smart and knows what the majority of consumers will buy... just a simple phone that will play their music and an added bonus of surfing the web. That's about it. And the iPhone delivers that big time. But for the more geekier crowd (me included) and the business crowd of course we want all the bells and whistles that are possible, but these crowds are actually a very small minority of the cell phone market. The proof; with all your complaining of lack of features, look how much the iPhone has sold and so quickly. No other cell phone has sold that many so soon, ever... this means it has what it needs (for the moment) for the average person.
I just bought a new iPhone 2 days ago, and it had the old version of firmware, which I updated to the newest.
Newbie here but wanted to state that my phone (bought on the day of the price drop) is model #MA712LL/A so it picked up the LL/A not sure if that is also because the phone being released in the EU and the A representing America or what BUT my phone had the old firmware and no WiFi on it. If that helps any at all. So it would be my best guess that the phones in stores still do not have the new firmware on them unless they are from a brand new shipment that just arrived over the weekend.
Best of luck!
Yeah, good point. In many inventory systems, same product at a new permanent price point would be a new SKU. And, yes, also to the post above, if there are any retail iPhones with the update out there, they just arrived in shops this morning.
I just wish they'd tell us when, exactly, we're getting the WiFi iTunes Stores. I don't expect them to tell me if there will be new features, or if any other features will come with that update, or anything else. Just let me know when the WiFi Store update is scheduled. I don't think that breaks Apple's no-tell on unannounced products rule, since this has indeed been announced. "Later this month" is just irritating. Lie to me and say Sept. 28th to give yourself a pad for problems even though your planning it for today. Then I'll be surprised if it's early. I know it's just an iPhone but I'm not good with unknowns and ambiguous waiting periods in general, even for trivial matters.
So the internet connection that you do use is SO slow that it can't download 2 megabyte songs? What are you doing with an iPhone if you can't afford a real internet connection?
I agree that this is huge plus for being away from home, especially since I don't have a laptop anymore....but this is the WI-FI music store, not the EDGE music store. You're gonna drive to the nearest Atlanta Bread Company to download a song?
I completely fail to see how this has anything to do with the pros of a WiFi music store....we're talking about 4 and 8 gigabyte devices here....how often are you going to buy movies?
Ok this is certainly NOT a reason, because 99.9% of iPhone users are syncing with iTunes under windows or osx. the .1% exception are complete and total nerds.
I think the reason no iChat in the first place is they couldn't decide how to charge it. Mobile phone AIM clients are a dime a dozen, so it would have been easy for Apple to do an iChat. But the standard practice for most carriers with phones that include IM clients, they don't require data plans to use them, they just bill against your voice minutes for as long as you're logged in, or sometimes just as long as you're in an active chat session. 5 minutes talking to your friend takes the same toll on your minutes usage as 5 minutes IM'ing your friend. But iPhone users are going to expect an IM client, an iChat, to be a data service, not a minutes-usage service. So how do they handle it?
I'll defend the OP on the broadband issue. Believe it or not there are still some rural places you just can't get it; maybe you can get some awful, expensive high-latency satellite connection or an equally awful ISDN connection. And if he does travel a lot and is never home, maybe trying to find a broadband solution for his home just doesn't matter so much.
But, on the complete other hand, if you bought an iPhone and don't use a computer that runs iTunes, you totally bought the wrong smartphone. The iPhone, and iPod for that matter, are not self-contained media devices, or self-contained data devices, or self-contained anythings; they are not designed or intended to be used stand-alone without iTunes integration. Period. So if you bought one and won't use iTunes you will never have the full potential of the device. It's like buying an Xbox 360 and hoping to play PlayStation 3 games: you can play the stuff they make for both consoles in an Xbox version only, some of the same games they have for PlayStation, but you can't play PlayStation 3 games at all, period.
But, on the complete other hand, if you bought an iPhone and don't use a computer that runs iTunes, you totally bought the wrong smartphone. The iPhone, and iPod for that matter, are not self-contained media devices, or self-contained data devices, or self-contained anythings; they are not designed or intended to be used stand-alone without iTunes integration. Period. So if you bought one and won't use iTunes you will never have the full potential of the device. It's like buying an Xbox 360 and hoping to play PlayStation 3 games: you can play the stuff they make for both consoles in an Xbox version only, some of the same games they have for PlayStation, but you can't play PlayStation 3 games at all, period.
I'll go along with that, but like I said MMS is NO BRAINER. I mean cmon, having to goto "viewmymessage.com" and input a username and password to view an image. Which coincidentally uses FLASH to display it! Everyone send random pics to one another all the time, this is a gimme.
Yeah, everyone already bills MMS at MMS rates or on SMS plans, anyway. There's already a billing structure for it. I don't why they didn't do it, unless it was just a hold-back, maybe until they enable video clip recording on the camera so they can say, "You can now record short videos and send them to your friend's e-mail at home, his iPhone, or if he's not with-it enough to have an iPhone yet, to any MMS-capable mobile phone." You know the rap.
Anyway, I'm sick of waiting for the update for something the iPod touch already has. Yes, I'm whining, but they could drop this thing at 4 or 5 this afternoon Pacific Time and not give anything away for the UK press event. For one that's almost midnight in the UK, and two, new features for American iPhones don't officially mean anything for the UK press event because Apple has not officially said it's an iPhone announcement. The sudden $200 price drop bothered me a lot less than not getting an iPod feature pretty quick after the stripped-down iPod version of the iPhone already has it.
I could be wrong but the "LL" in the model number probably designates it as an Apple Store product as opposed to an AT&T Store product.Mine is the MA712 and I got it at the AT&T store.People with the MA712LL probably got it through Apple..
Could be wrong though.
Firmware update 1.1.1 should come out later this afternoon.
I don't know who you are and why you think you should know such a thing, but I'm just going to go with you on this one. I've been up since about 2:30 working, so I'm just going to crash and hope when I wake up or thereabouts the update will be there to grab. Waiting is making me crabby, which is really just silly, considering.
See!! I said I could be wrong.
My opinion is based purely on the iPhone being introduced in London at 2AM Cupertino time.If they show it off there and it's 2AM here I'm guessing the firmware would be out by then.
See!! I said I could be wrong.
My opinion is based purely on the iPhone being introduced in London at 2AM Cupertino time.If they show it off there and it's 2AM here I'm guessing the firmware would be out by then.
I hope you are right!!
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Once it gets past 4PM Pacific time, it's midnight in London and there's not really any point holding the firmware update until 2AM, as then you might as well just release it first thing Tuesday morning, which will be six or seven hours *after* they roll it out in London with no good reason to have that long a lag between UK roll out and stateside update.
Plus I don't think it could hurt the hype one bit for some Brits to stay up late to see all the new things the iPhone may do with the update, making them even more excited for what is flat-out known to be the UK iPhone announcement.
Logic would dictate, why make stateside customers wait to avoid divulging features that can only heighten the anticipation for the 10AM London announcement? Even if they announce a forthcoming 16GB model in London -- I swear there will *not* be 3G in it -- the firmware update isn't going to give that away. And I have to assume the software is totally ready if they're going to be showing it off at the London event; they just held it until closer to the event. Anyway, logic would dictate... But then again this is Apple we're talking about.
Nighty night.
Plus I don't think it could hurt the hype one bit for some Brits to stay up late to see all the new things the iPhone may do with the update, making them even more excited for what is flat-out known to be the UK iPhone announcement.
Logic would dictate, why make stateside customers wait to avoid divulging features that can only heighten the anticipation for the 10AM London announcement? Even if they announce a forthcoming 16GB model in London -- I swear there will *not* be 3G in it -- the firmware update isn't going to give that away. And I have to assume the software is totally ready if they're going to be showing it off at the London event; they just held it until closer to the event. Anyway, logic would dictate... But then again this is Apple we're talking about.
Nighty night.
See!! I said I could be wrong.
My opinion is based purely on the iPhone being introduced in London at 2AM Cupertino time.If they show it off there and it's 2AM here I'm guessing the firmware would be out by then.
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