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I was tempted to buy one, honestly.

Then I read the prickly-but-factual blog remarks by Eric Brandt on techlore.

It is hard to argue with the conclusion after reading his 10 major questions: the iPhone is really a failure where it counts.

http://techlore.com/article/18701/iPhone-Deserves-Worship--iWish-/

Hmmm . . . no. Some of his points are bound to be solved with future updates. His point about the battery dieing after 300 to 400 charges is just wrong. It's OK to hate the iPhone. I don't mind.

We better get the Knight. Looks like we have a Troll here.
 
I was tempted to buy one, honestly.

Then I read the prickly-but-factual blog remarks by Eric Brandt on techlore.

It is hard to argue with the conclusion after reading his 10 major questions: the iPhone is really a failure where it counts.

http://techlore.com/article/18701/iPhone-Deserves-Worship--iWish-/

I'm sorry, but this has to be one of the goofiest things I've ever read.

First, he says that he hasn't ever even used it. He is basing it on things he's heard.

Some of the things are stupid - taking 6 steps to make a phone call? This has already addressed, but frankly, it takes just as many steps as on my Treo.

He then asks if you can "type at all" on the non-tactile keys..... again a stupid question to be asked that anyone who actually has USED one can verify.

The iPhone can now handle instant messaging thanks to a variety of IM apps; and its only a matter of time before a real iChat makes its way to the iPhone.

The lack of tethering isn't what I would describe as a "basic ability" or a failure of the iPhone.

As for Flash, all rumors point to it coming soon, but I don't see it as such a necessity (it frankly bogs down most sites I go to, and is used more for ads than actual content).

Lack of games? Again, this goes to the general third party issues. I'm not sure that's a real "failure" either though, but surely they will come.

And his argument that syncing music is completely out-dated seems silly too; that is still the primary and best way to manage music on an iPod synced with your desktop music library. Being able to download music directly from iTunes would be cool, but I don't think it's a dealbreaker.

His price comparison point is silly too........ the cost of the plan over 2 years is the biggest part of it, and that is the same for any phone with data.

Honestly though, this seems like a really half-assed set of questions, and they don't frankly trump all the things the iPhone does get right (and not to mention that many of the things can and will be addressed in software updates, like IMing and Flash support).

This really reads like something designed solely to get hits to this guy's blog.

But again, what really amazes me is that he bases this all on not having even tried using an iPhone; no-one is claiming the iPhone is perfect, but to base your entire opinion on what it doesn't do yet or have, and not on all the things it does well is silly.

he ends it asking if it does things your current phone doesn't, and I can say that absolutely it does. The music player and video player are generations beyond anything most current phones have, and the web browser blows away anything you can do with the web browsers on Windows Mobile, Palm OS or the Blackberry.

-Zadillo
 
let's get real

I've tried it. I've tested it out. I've argued with my iPhone-fanatic buddies.

But the simple fact is, it is alousy phone for all the reasons listed. (That's why I posted Eric's blog, cuz he got at all the points I would make.)

I found thumb typing impossible.

the actual steps in making a phone call were excruciating, and if I had to enter a phone number it was even worse. (Perhaps I'm uncoordinated, but I kept missing the keys.)

I feel like people have a "vested interest" in defending and loving the iPhone. Really, step away from the table a second, and give it some critical thought.

iDont_iDonkey_Poster2.jpg
 
I've tried it. I've tested it out. I've argued with my iPhone-fanatic buddies.

But the simple fact is, it is alousy phone for all the reasons listed. (That's why I posted Eric's blog, cuz he got at all the points I would make.)

I found thumb typing impossible.

the actual steps in making a phone call were excruciating, and if I had to enter a phone number it was even worse. (Perhaps I'm uncoordinated, but I kept missing the keys.)

I feel like people have a "vested interest" in defending and loving the iPhone. Really, step away from the table a second, and give it some critical thought.

iDont_iDonkey_Poster2.jpg

oh boy, that goofy iDont campaign.... I forgot about that.

From what I've heard, thumb typing takes a few days to get used to - how long did you test it out exactly? Personally I'm just fine with the normal index finger typing. Frankly I find it easier to type on than my Treo 650.

And again, the steps to make a phone call on the iPhone aren't any more complicated than the steps to make a phone call on the Treo 650.

But anyway, you've made your point, and even illustrated it with the failed iDont campaign, and called people who don't have a problem with the iPhone or like it anyway fanatics.

Do you have anything else?

Seriously, you don't like the iPhone, you found it difficult to use - fine.

But telling people who disagree with you or who actually do like the iPhone and don't have problems using the keyboard, etc. that they aren't using critical thought, etc.? Give me a break.


-Zadillo
 
The world we live in:

* The corporate hype is massive.

* People are supposed to define themselves by brand identification.

* People are encouraged to judge each other by their toys (their cars, their boats and now even their %#^&ing phones!)

* the lack of critical thought is massive, systemic, enveloping. If you even question it, people declare you are "off the grid" (and out of the debate) -- on issues as basic as the truth of evolution and the injustice of an unprovoked aggression against a smaller country.

* We need to stop our focus and fascination with things, and look at what matters: human interactions and their quality.

* When you pooh-pooh my protests, when you dismiss the question I raised of criticial thought, all I can say (with friendly and constructive intent) is "step away from the bar" and look around this beautiful blue orb and the truly horrific stultifying things that are being done to our brains.
 
The world we live in:

* The corporate hype is massive.

* People are supposed to define themselves by brand identification.

* People are encouraged to judge each other by their toys (their cars, their boats and now even their %#^&ing phones!)

* the lack of critical thought is massive, systemic, enveloping. If you even question it, people declare you are "off the grid" (and out of the debate) -- on issues as basic as the truth of evolution and the injustice of an unprovoked aggression against a smaller country.

* We need to stop our focus and fascination with things, and look at what matters: human interactions and their quality.

* When you pooh-pooh my protests, when you dismiss the question I raised of criticial thought, all I can say (with friendly and constructive intent) is "step away from the bar" and look around this beautiful blue orb and the truly horrific stultifying things that are being done to our brains.

I'm not dismissing your question of critical thought.

I'm saying that telling other people that they must be lacking in critical thought just because they like/enjoy the iPhone, is really ridiculous.

And I'm not pooh-poohing your protests; you're certainly free to dislike the iPhone, etc. (although bringing this into a larger question about corporate hype, brand identification, etc. is something else).

But to then turn around and say that anyone who DOES like the iPhone or enjoy it for what it is must be not looking at it critically is simply not fair.

Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean that everyone else who does actually like/enjoy it is deluded or not thinking critically.

I can say again, just comparing the iPhone to my Treo, the things it does right compared to how my Treo works make it a compelling product for me.

I don't even want to get into the rest of this though.

-Zadillo
 
"'m saying that telling other people that they must be lacking in critical thought just because they like/enjoy the iPhone, is really ridiculous."

I'm hardly making that simplistic argument.

"I don't even want to get into the rest of this though."

Fair enough. But those things really ARE the issue. And to isolate the wave of publicity and devotion this device has raised from the rest of what is h appening in our culture...

Just one example:

Far more people have gossiped in fascination about the iPhone than have informed themselves about the torture being done in their name -- the renditions, the waterboarding, the violations of Geneva conventions.

When people say "well you can't compare the two things" -- in a sense they are right. One is frivilous and beneath adult discussion in importance. The other is about defining our society and our future.

When our grandchildren ask us about what we were doing in 2007, do you think they will ask "did you get an iPhone?" or "Did you know about the torture, and why didn't you do something?"
 
Hold on a sec

Egadfly

Let me see if I can get this straight....first you say you were going to get one, but a set of questions from someone who has never even used one changed your mind...then you say, that you tested it and that you came up to those conclusions on your own....and then, unprovoked, you jump on your soap box about the evils of society and corporations and gadgets. So let's see, if I can do the math here, you aren't interested in discussing the pros/cons of the iPhone you are simply trying to make a political statement.

Now I'm sure we would all enjoy having a discussion about the pros/cons of the iPhone with you if you would just settle down with the rhetoric. Funny the person jumping up and down about "human interaction" is the least capable of having a normal "human" discussion.
 
gee thanks.

kinda ad hom -- don'tcha think.

My points:

a) the iphone fascination is manufactured hype.

b) I was drawn in at first.

c) examination of some of the details made me stop.

d) i believe there are larger questions at stake -- that have to do with the way our attentions and loyalties are diverted from the important issues that are actually shaping our world.

disagree with me if you want. Focus on only the iPhone or any other gadget-du-jour if that is your inclination.

But please don't pretend my views are incoherent or irrelevent in an ad hominem way.
 
gee thanks.

kinda ad hom -- don'tcha think.

My points:

a) the iphone fascination is manufactured hype.

b) I was drawn in at first.

c) examination of some of the details made me stop.

d) i believe there are larger questions at stake -- that have to do with the way our attentions and loyalties are diverted from the important issues that are actually shaping our world.

disagree with me if you want. Focus on only the iPhone or any other gadget-du-jour if that is your inclination.

But please don't pretend my views are incoherent or irrelevent in an ad hominem way.

No actually I don't....Ummm Last time I checked the title of this forum was iPhone first impressions not what's wrong with the world. I agree that there's a lot going on in the world that is important, but if I want to discuss those kinds of things I will go to the appropriate web site/forum. We focus on the iPhone here because that is what is being discussed here. I certainly don't spend all day here talking about...in fact, I haven't been to this forum all day until now. As for your points....

A) Your opinion, personally I like my iphone and I am quite happy with my purchase....sure there are some issues, but there's been issues with every cel phone I have owned
B)and your point is
C)If it's not right for you then fine, but some of us don't agree with your assessments nor do we appreciate the name calling
D)Unlike you apparently, I am able to focus on and discuss many different things through out the day. I certainly have not forgotten about the rest of the world just because I have an iPhone. However, I also am not going to spend my entire day talking about all the injustices of the world. Hey I got an idea for you, instead of berating people on an iphone forum, why don't you get off your a$$ and go do something about it if it bothers you so much....talking ain't going to do s@#*

There's a time and place for everything, but clearly that matters not to you. Now if you'll excuse me I have a job to get back to.
 
I was tempted to buy one, honestly.

Then I read the prickly-but-factual blog remarks by Eric Brandt on techlore.

It is hard to argue with the conclusion after reading his 10 major questions: the iPhone is really a failure where it counts.

http://techlore.com/article/18701/iPhone-Deserves-Worship--iWish-/

Alright, I'll bite.

From the Provided Article said:
1) What about, uh, just making a simple phone call?

Is it true that the iPhone takes six steps to make a phone call?

Well, let's see. /Takes iPhone out of pocket./

1. Unlock phone

2. Press phone button

3. Touch person's name in the favorites list, OR scroll through contacts list and press person's name

4. Press number

Usually, I leave the phone app on the favorites list, so I can easily make calls. At most, from locked phone to dialing number, it takes me four steps, usually three.

My last phone, for comparison (a Motorola V551), requires these steps:

1. Open phone

2. Open contacts

3. Either move down through contacts list, or jump to it by pressing the first letter of their name

4. Press send

So it looks pretty comparable to me -- the iPhone does not really take any additional steps to dial a number.

How long will that take to get on your nerves? Two days? Three?

Well, I've had it for a week, and since it takes the same amount as my last phone, it hasn't gotten on my nerves at all. Guess it only gets on your nerves if you don't own one.

Is it true that the required AT&T partnership forces you to use one of the most notoriously bad networks in the country?

Did you stop beating your wife?

AT&T, where I live, is better than T-Mobile, Sprint, and even Verizon. You cannot make sweeping generalizations about their service, or any other company's cell phone service, because it is dependent on where you live.

Do makeup and fingerprints smear all over the device screen?

It picks up a lot of fingerprints, but you can't see them with the screen on, so it is a non-issue. It takes very little effort to clean them off with the included wipe if you are a clean freak.


2) How about typing in a phone number or a note-to-self?



Call me "so last century" – but I save ideas in text form.

Can you type at all on the non-tactile "keys"?

I hear that period and commas require a 2nd screen. Is that one of those deceptive "urban legends"?

And I also hear that you can't copy or paste anything while you type. Tell me it ain't so!

I type at 30 - 40 words a minute on the iPhone keyboard pretty accurately (just tested it), so once you get used to using two thumbs with it, you should have no problem. Your results may vary, though.

3) Is it true that iPhones can't handle instant messaging?

Not even a little bit?

Definitely a "little bit." Check out iphone.beejive.com. It id a really impressive IM online app.

5) Is it true the iPhone can't be used as a modem for your laptop?

How many of us have been using our internet capable phones (and the expensive internet access we pay for) as a modem for laptop surfing – in airports, or cars or wherever we like? Is it true that this basic ability was left off the iPhone?

That's the whole point of the phone -- you don't really need to bring a laptop on trips anymore because Safari is so powerful. I have always hated dragging my laptop with me just to check email and the Internet while on trips, and the iPhone elegantly replaces it.


Well, there you go. The rest of the complaints have been hashed out all over the place, so I won't here.
 
"'m saying that telling other people that they must be lacking in critical thought just because they like/enjoy the iPhone, is really ridiculous."

I'm hardly making that simplistic argument.

"I don't even want to get into the rest of this though."

Fair enough. But those things really ARE the issue. And to isolate the wave of publicity and devotion this device has raised from the rest of what is h appening in our culture...

Just one example:

Far more people have gossiped in fascination about the iPhone than have informed themselves about the torture being done in their name -- the renditions, the waterboarding, the violations of Geneva conventions.

When people say "well you can't compare the two things" -- in a sense they are right. One is frivilous and beneath adult discussion in importance. The other is about defining our society and our future.

When our grandchildren ask us about what we were doing in 2007, do you think they will ask "did you get an iPhone?" or "Did you know about the torture, and why didn't you do something?"

OK, wow....

First off, you have taken this in a pretty different direction from your original post, where you said you were going to buy one but changed your mind because of the various shortcomings you found in the product, which you said were well defined in a blog post you linked to.

I'm honestly not sure what point you are trying to make here though.

I guess you're making a general point about how people, in general, can focus their attention on things like gadgets/entertainment/etc. and many of them do so at the expense of informing themselves about broader topics like the direction the country is going in, torture, etc.

I don't think you're wholly wrong here - I mean, I think you're stating a known fact, and one that has been true throughout human history (hell, this was the whole bread and circuses concept during the Roman Empire).

But I don't see how this is relevant to the iPhone specifically.

Yes, the iPhone is manufactured hype, although much of that manufactured by people outside of Apple - Apple didn't have to do that much themselves, because the product itself actually happens to WARRANT the hype.

Note that manufacturing hype itself doesn't guarantee anything; look at Microsoft's attempts to manufacture hype and interest in UMPC's (the Origami campaign) or the Zune.

The iPhone's hype would mean nothing if the product didn't back it up; but in large part, and for many people, it has.

Now, yes, there are all sorts of frivolous things that people get excited by and discuss, and some of those people don't worry about or discuss broader global and national topics that are much more important.

But that is not the fault of the iPhone, or of people who like the iPhone.

Taken to its logical extreme, one could criticize everyone who doesn't get involved or think about these other issues. Even further, I could criticize you, for spending time even coming in here and posting about how you don't like the iPhone, since that's taking time away that you could be spending discussing America's current policies regarding the use of torture, etc.

I don't know about you, but personally I can enjoy gadgets, entertainment, etc. while at the same time also think about and involve myself in more serious discussions as well.

But really, I don't quite see where you are going with this.

It seems like you have a major problem with anyone that doesn't show the same dislike for the iPhone that you have, and you have a problem with corporate hype, etc.

Btw, I find it sort of ironic that you'd complain about manufactured hype, and then illustrate one of your posts with an iDon't.com image, because, after all, iDon't is just corporate hype. But iDon't is even worse, because they try and come across as counterculture, etc. even though they are just SanDisk:

This site and the iDon’t campaign (check out our cool posters above) are the creation of several of us renegades behind the new Sansa player, from SanDisk.

Apple of course doesn't have to resort to this kind of junk, because they create products that people actually can feel a connection to and interest in.

Part of human existence is being able to juggle concern for the world and society along with the ability to enjoy the fruits of society as well.

So yes, I can be upset about torture, but also enjoy a good movie, or a gadget made by creative people. They're not mutually exclusive.

And people have a choice about what to concern themselves with. Someone can spend all their time worrying about serious issues, and that's their choice. Someone else can spend all their time watching movies and reading about gadgets and that's their choice too.

As far as your hypothetical question, about what your kids will wonder about what you were doing in 2007; here's a crazy thought. Maybe your kids will be interested in knowing what you were doing politically and socially, as well as what it was like when the iPhone came out and what you thought of it, etc.

I know that I myself have asked my parents what it was like during major events like vietnam or the cuban missile crisis, but also what it was like when they first heard the Beatles. The latter was "frivolous" but not unimportant.

We as humans shouldn't be ashamed about enjoying and caring about the positive things humans do and create, even if that means perhaps not focusing 100% on the bad things we do, or are done in our name.

-Zadillo
 
Well put Zadillo.

I did a little poking around and it seems to me that egadfly and eric brandt are one in the same...and if they're not, egadfly certainly worships eric as they had the same picture for a while....not to mention, other then iPhone bashing and spaming the forums, he has not posted anything else. My guess, this was a ploy to direct traffic to his crap a$$ site. Funny too because this is a quote from eric's profile "I've been called it all: from "gadget freak" to "early adopter"" Yet he hasn't used an iphone yet...so much for early adopter gadget freak...LOL
Eric also has this in his profile..."What human interactions will emerge (or disappear!)?" Sound familiar?? ;)
He also works for Sansa and spends most of his time bashing any Apple product that competes with Sansa....so I think I can add hypocrite to the list as well....

Gotta love the trolls!!!
 
gee thanks.

kinda ad hom -- don'tcha think.

My points:

a) the iphone fascination is manufactured hype.

b) I was drawn in at first.

c) examination of some of the details made me stop.

d) i believe there are larger questions at stake -- that have to do with the way our attentions and loyalties are diverted from the important issues that are actually shaping our world.

disagree with me if you want. Focus on only the iPhone or any other gadget-du-jour if that is your inclination.

But please don't pretend my views are incoherent or irrelevent in an ad hominem way.

I fully agree with you, egadfly.

Probably not going to win you many supporters in this forum, but I do think that, to be it mildly, there is a Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field. And I do think that some of Apple's products are easier to use b/c they have less features. I think that their secret sauce is their advertising.
That said, I fully expect the iphone to dominate. I don't think that it's any worse or any better than the competition, but it will dominate.
 
Well put Zadillo.

I did a little poking around and it seems to me that egadfly and eric brandt are one in the same...and if they're not, egadfly certainly worships eric as they had the same picture for a while....not to mention, other then iPhone bashing and spaming the forums, he has not posted anything else. My guess, this was a ploy to direct traffic to his crap a$$ site. Funny too because this is a quote from eric's profile "I've been called it all: from "gadget freak" to "early adopter"" Yet he hasn't used an iphone yet...so much for early adopter gadget freak...LOL
Eric also has this in his profile..."What human interactions will emerge (or disappear!)?" Sound familiar?? ;)
He also works for Sansa and spends most of his time bashing any Apple product that competes with Sansa....so I think I can add hypocrite to the list as well....

Gotta love the trolls!!!

Wow..... that explains the goofy iDon't thing then. I think only people who work for Sansa still even remember that campaign.

-Zadillo
 
I fully agree with you, egadfly.

Probably not going to win you many supporters in this forum, but I do think that, to be it mildly, there is a Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field. And I do think that some of Apple's products are easier to use b/c they have less features. I think that their secret sauce is their advertising.
That said, I fully expect the iphone to dominate. I don't think that it's any worse or any better than the competition, but it will dominate.

I am getting kind of tired of this line of attack; that Apple's "secret sauce" is their advertising.

The iPod hasn't been successful SOLELY because of advertising. If it was just advertising, but the product itself stunk, it would not have lasted as long as it has.

Also, less features is hardly the "reason" Apple's products are often easier to use. That seems like an incredible distortion of the hard work Apple actually does put into designing products and working on interfaces, etc.

The iPhone, for example, isn't "easier to use" than a Treo because of less features. The web browser and music/video apps alone are "easier to use" than the comparable Palm OS equivalents because they are incredibly well designed, and have had new UI concepts invented that work well with this kind of device.

And the iPod isn't easier to use just because it has "less features"; there is something to be said for the design of it, and more importantly, the relationship between the iPod and the iTunes app as a synching platform, which is a big part of what makes it work so well.

These things aren't "obvious"; Sony hasn't failed just because they don't have as good advertising as Apple. Notice how Sony has shut down the Connect application and store; its because it wasn't as well designed and didn't integrate as well with their own players.

It's easy to strip features from a product but still not make it easy or pleasant to use. If it was as simple as making a stripped down music player, someone would have created a successful iPod killer long ago.

This is like the reverse thinking behind the other misconception; that the iPod could be "killed" just with a device that had more features, for example - this was a false notion too, because companies ended up trying to outdo the iPod feature-wise, not realizing that a lot of those extra features didn't matter because many consumers used the core music playing functionality.

Also, that seems like kind of a non-commital opinion, to say its neither "better or worse" than the competition. That assumes sort of fantasy world where the iPhone works exactly like other phones.

There are things the iPhone does better, and things it does worse in. It isn't that hard to find both of these things.

-Zadillo
 
I feel like people have a "vested interest" in defending and loving the iPhone.

I certainly agree with this statement. There are plenty of shareholders here who would trumpet any new Apple product regardless of how well it actually performs. I'm sure that happens with other manufacturers, but it doesn't make it any less lame. Pure puffery.

But the shareholders and fanboys are not alone in their support of the iPhone. Too many excellent reviews have poured in by people who were skeptics at first.
 
Thing is: yes, there is a lot of excitement and a lot of hype around a new Apple product, especially this new venture into a different direction for them: the iPhone. Why the excitement and the hype? Because as past history has shown, Apple actually delivers.

I am tickled to death with my iPhone and this is coming from someone who used a cell phone only reluctantly, only when I absolutely had to do so. I had one for "emergencies." Interestingly enough, over the past week and a half I've found myself picking up my iPhone to call friends (local and long-distance) without even thinking about it, even though my tried-and-true trusty landline phone is right at hand as well. Now THAT never happened before!

The iPhone's keyboard is really cool. I'm a touch-typist, but I have had no problems in quickly speeding up one-finger typing with my index finger. Maybe eventually I'll graduate to using two thumbs or two index fingers, we'll see. Point being that typing on the iPhone is more than doable.... Today I was in the waiting room of a doctor's office waiting for a friend while she had an appointment. I accessed one of my favorite sites and made a couple of comments/replies in threads. This is something I've never been able to do before and I am enjoying a new experience. I am getting the full internet, not some hacked-up "light" Windows CE (or whatever it's called now) version.

Bluetooth pairing between my iPhone and my GPS system in the car -- works great so that I have hands-free calling capability, and that's something else that is new for me.

At this point in time anyone who tries to take my iPhone away from me is going to face a real battle!!! I love the thing. Why? Because for me, it "just works."
 
the idea that the iphone is HARD to use as a phone, is RIDICULOUS.

1) tap phone
2) tap number
OR
2) dial number

ZOMG! That's SOOOOOOO difficult. I feel incredibly sorry for ANYONE who has to do that.... I can't believe it doesn't just read your mind and call the person you're thinking of :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
ZOMG! That's SOOOOOOO difficult. I feel incredibly sorry for ANYONE who has to do that.... I can't believe it doesn't just read your mind and call the person you're thinking of :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yours doesnt?

Mine not only reads my mind on who to call, it also fixes me a drink after work and puts my feet up.

Still having some trouble teaching it to do my laundry, but I think that's a software fix.
 
Yours doesnt?

Mine not only reads my mind on who to call, it also fixes me a drink after work and puts my feet up.

Still having some trouble teaching it to do my laundry, but I think that's a software fix.
yea. i'm waiting for rev. 2 because of the laundry firmware issue :p:p:p
 
I've tried it. I've tested it out. I've argued with my iPhone-fanatic buddies.

But the simple fact is, it is alousy phone for all the reasons listed. (That's why I posted Eric's blog, cuz he got at all the points I would make.)

I found thumb typing impossible.

the actual steps in making a phone call were excruciating, and if I had to enter a phone number it was even worse. (Perhaps I'm uncoordinated, but I kept missing the keys.)

I feel like people have a "vested interest" in defending and loving the iPhone. Really, step away from the table a second, and give it some critical thought.

iDont_iDonkey_Poster2.jpg

haha you find thumb tyuping impossible? Do you have french manicures? i type faster on my iphone than i ever have any other phone and its getting close to the speed of which i type on my computer, which is about 88wpm. im at 55wpm on the iphone, which is damn fast...
 
Notice how Sony has shut down the Connect application and store; its because it wasn't as well designed and didn't integrate as well with their own players.

-Zadillo

Sony also shut down the Connect Service due to it not making any money. But don't count them down and out. After watching E3 conference for them, they could make a crazy comeback. Having a unified front through the XMB (PSP, PS3, Sony Erricson Phones, and some Bravia Displays) will allow them to get the masses hooked on certain things.

But that is neither here nor there....
 
Some people just don't get it, but most are Trolls!!

I have never read a weaker review in my life of anything..
I think one poster got it right. This is for hits...

Be sensational, ridiculous and stupid..it gets results everytime ie. PH, NR, LL
 
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