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iPhone Flash Support In Early Development

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During Adobe's quarterly conference call last night, Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen confirmed that the company was working on a version of Flash for the iPhone.

With respect to the iPhone, we are working on it. We have a version that’s working on the emulation. This is still on the computer and you know, we have to continue to move it from a test environment onto the device and continue to make it work. So we are pleased with the internal progress that we’ve made to date.

Apple has been working on a JavaScript framework called SproutCore that would reduce, but not necessarily eliminate, web application dependence on Flash.

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thevibesman

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Nice, I knew we wouldn't be left flashless forever. I wonder how close to the AppStore launch this will be--I don't know much about the differences between the emulator and the phone, but hopefully that means we will see this pretty soon.

Now if we can get a copy/past rumor I'll be all set.
 
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BrittQ

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It will be nice to be able to listen to XM on my iPhone through XM's online player.:cool:
 
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kdarling

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"Still on the computer"...

So, just as with TomTom, it sounds like Adobe hasn't gotten a developer on-unit test license yet either.

I mean, it makes a weird sort of sense to limit developer licenses to a broad spectrum of apps at first, but to totally ignore the biggest names in the business?
 
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Rojo

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Finally!

Once it happens, I'll be able to go to my company's homepage on my iPhone and not see just a blue square there anymore!

Woohoo! :D
 
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bigmc6000

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I think they should just sell a flash enabled Safari on the AppStore for something stupid like 99 cents (or maybe even free?). I would only use it when I want flash - most of the time I don't want flash as all it would do would be to take pages take forever to load with all their stupid Flash adds but when I want to watch a video online I'd like to have the option...

I also want MMS (yeah, yeah, I know, I know) and the ability to send more than 1 photo at a time - I can't begin to tell you how many times that's annoyed me.

Also, let me save pics from the web as well as e-mail.
 
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mainstreetmark

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Coming in v2.0 :)

yeah, but not so far as I can tell (or remember), MMS isn't there, so we'll continue to get those crappy "Someone has sent you a multimedia message..." with two complicated strings you have to remember.

Can't you at least make the link it sends clickable with all the correct information? As it stands, I ignore them all, and act like an idiot when the person asks me if I got that funny thing they sent me.

Anyways, flash would be ok. I understand it'll drain the battery, but at least websites with flash will work properly.
 
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rxse7en

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If the iPhone 3g can readily handle 3G and GPS with enough juice to spare why is Flash such a big deal now? Steve's claim that he was concerned with battery life shouldn't make a difference now, no?
 
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rockinrocker

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i wonder if they couldn't also make it easy to turn on and off? so if you're going to a site that needs it, just turn it on real quick (or just leave it on all the time if you're not concerned about battery).
would that be feasible?
 
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MichaelLatta

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If the iPhone 3g can readily handle 3G and GPS with enough juice to spare why is Flash such a big deal now? Steve's claim that he was concerned with battery life shouldn't make a difference now, no?

The problem with flash is the amount of CPU demand it creates. All that video is being done in the CPU not on the GPU or other chips. The iPhone uses custom/dedicated chips for video and other things that are very power efficient. Flash video would drain the battery in no time flat. I would be surprised if you got 2 hours of battery life doing flash video. That is why they made the deal with YouTube to re-encode their video in H.264, because hardware decoding is WAY more efficient.
 
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mainstreetmark

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i wonder if they couldn't also make it easy to turn on and off? so if you're going to a site that needs it, just turn it on real quick (or just leave it on all the time if you're not concerned about battery).
would that be feasible?

maybe it'll work like an embedded movie where when you tap it, it launches. If there's Flash content on a website, you'd end up tapping it to load and run it.
If you don't tap, it's dormant. That would be the way to go, so you don't have to monkey around with preferences.
 
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Rocketman

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"Still on the computer"...

So, just as with TomTom, it sounds like Adobe hasn't gotten a developer on-unit test license yet either.

I mean, it makes a weird sort of sense to limit developer licenses to a broad spectrum of apps at first, but to totally ignore the biggest names in the business?

It does make clear there is an agenda.

Rocketman
 
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rockinrocker

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maybe it'll work like an embedded movie where when you tap it, it launches. If there's Flash content on a website, you'd end up tapping it to load and run it.
If you don't tap, it's dormant. That would be the way to go, so you don't have to monkey around with preferences.

yeah, that sounds perfect. only having to worry about the specific content you're looking for, and not having to deal with adds 'n other junk along with it.
 
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lazyrighteye

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Yeah, but not so far as I can tell (or remember), MMS isn't there, so we'll continue to get those crappy "Someone has sent you a multimedia message..." with two complicated strings you have to remember.

Can't you at least make the link it sends clickable with all the correct information? As it stands, I ignore them all, and act like an idiot when the person asks me if I got that funny thing they sent me.

I agree!
I'm honestly fine with Apple's decision to not support MMS.
But why on earth that annoying message can't be clickable is beyond me.
The fact this has not been remedied might suggest it's more complex than we understand.

Meh.
 
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troyblinka

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bigmc6000 said:
I think they should just sell a flash enabled Safari on the AppStore for something stupid like 99 cents (or maybe even free?). I would only use it when I want flash - most of the time I don't want flash as all it would do would be to take pages take forever to load with all their stupid Flash adds but when I want to watch a video online I'd like to have the option...

I also want MMS (yeah, yeah, I know, I know) and the ability to send more than 1 photo at a time - I can't begin to tell you how many times that's annoyed me.

Also, let me save pics from the web as well as e-mail.

You can receive mms images if you tell your friends to text it to your email address on your iPhone instead of your cell number. It doesn't cost more. You could also use your email client to send pictures to cell phones by putting their number followed by their receiving address per carrier, example: xxxxxxxxxxx@vzwpix.com for a verizon customer. Just add that to your friends contact file as a mobile email address.
 
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bytethese

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Flash PLEASE. Certain sites I'd like to use, I can't because it's all in Flash. Ugh.
 
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bigmc6000

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You can receive mms images if you tell your friends to text it to your email address on your iPhone instead of your cell number. It doesn't cost more. You could also use your email client to send pictures to cell phones by putting their number followed by their receiving address per carrier, example: xxxxxxxxxxx@vzwpix.com for a verizon customer. Just add that to your friends contact file as a mobile email address.

Well sure but that's not really the point. I shouldn't have to tell all my friends "hey, when you send MMS send them as an e-mail to me because my phone doesn't do that. I can use GPS to track my position down to a 20 foot radius, I can check e-mail, I can watch YouTube, and I can access virtually any site on the internet but I can't get MMS." WTH??
 
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