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Your so mad! lol. Mad at the world for some reason. Can't you see that you are just doing the same thing you are accusing others of doing? That was my point. You are in a rage because someone thinks the iPhone is not the best thing in the world. It's not worth this much anger. Maybe its something else, I don't know.


Nice try, pulling the anger card. I'm expressing what excellent value is for my circumstances. And that others who are opening their wallet are apparently finding great value for their needs as well.

For some reason that seems to bother you. It really is ok if you don't find similar value.
 
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Remember this when you are wondering why the base model 2016 MacBook Pro is $1599 when it used to start at $1299 (It's not because it actually costs more).
 
Apple owns the smartphone market ONLY when it comes to PROFIT.

I'm sure you will say GREAT. But last quarter, android shipped on 89% of all smartphones sold. At some point, these numbers are going to lead to application issues. Please compare software for windows to Mac.

It won't happen overnight, but this trend should not be unfamiliar to Apple's history.

Hilarious! Profit is the only thing that matters to a business!
You people have been saying this crap for 10 years!
I'm not happy with the way Cook is running Apple but in the end I still buy their phones.
What I don't do is go to android sites and shoot down android iPhone copies..
Seems like a waste of time.
 
So again, the fact that I've outlined how I've built my workflow around my choice of devices means nothing to you. I should just buy a $50 Indian made smartphone instead?
Sorry, I didn't take that seriously. A while ago I was working with people who wrote this hugely complicated design document, outlining how some software product will be developed using CORBA. The problem was that they chose the technology before deciding on the need, because it looked good on their CVs, and in the end, it was all for nothing.

So you just decided on a product and produced a need, for my eyes, on the spot. Your actual needs, if you were to look around, would be completely (and likely better) satisfied by a much cheaper product for sure.

You completely ruined your argument by being OK with a phone that does less than the iPhone at it's price point.
No I didn't, don't be silly. As I said, I wouldn't buy one, not at this price. What my wife wants in mobile phones, that's not my business. She can buy a golden Vertu and that's perfectly fine with me :D

If you have a problem with people spending money you probably shouldn't be on a forum about Apple products (or any technology, for that matter).
Not at all. I know that iSheep are sheared every year by Apple, so they're a bit sore, but they should be petted and cherished. Their sacrifice doesn't go unnoticed. By feeding Apple's greedy, unethical business practices, they keep a price ceiling on smartphones, to everyone else's benefit.
 
Nice try, pulling the anger card. I'm expressing what excellent value is for my circumstances. And that others who are opening their wallet are apparently finding great value for their needs as well.

For some reason that seems to bother you. It really is ok if you don't find similar value.
You called me poor, I called you angry. Just another day on MacRumors.

Have a good day.
 
5) Ask any Watch user if it's gimmicky. There are 12+ million of them in the US alone, selling more watches first time around than iPhones first time around...

If Apple Watch is doing that great, why aren't they releasing sales like they used to do?
12 million units pulled right out of some "analysts" ass.
 
Wouldn't the sales numbers plateau if the market saturates rather than decline?
So if they sold 100 phones in 2013+2014 but only 50 phones in 2015+2016 then they lost 50 customers? (Using 2 years with a an assumption that most upgrade on a two year cycle to make it easier on my thought process)
I could easily be missing something...
People are holding on to their phones longer and, as everybody has mentioned for months now, the 7 is more of a holdover until the supposed revolutionary 8.
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The Apple Watch is gimmicky and mostly useless for most people. It's still obvious Apple have no idea what it's for and it does nothing well. 95% of available apps are dire. I wear mine out of habit but it adds nothing to my life. Nobody needs this.

- An Apple Watch user
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Naa. It's Microsoft who'll be taking their profits soon enough. The Pixel doesn't seem like a runaway success. It's too expensive and mostly a bit crap.

agreed on the pixel. When it can barely run average games the iPhone flies with.... yea it's a joke.

Maybe you're a unique Apple Watch user. Living in Silicon Valley, I see dozens of users a day, and the ones I ask (though only about 30-50 I've asked) all have enjoyed using and felt the iron roductivity has increased.
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You asked says who, and I answered. I asked you for an example of a company who was able to achieve what you seemed to be implying was possible, by way of asking "says who" when someone said it wouldn't last. You typed out a very long reply for having completely avoided the question. It was like asking Hillary about the Clinton Foundation.
I didn't... I proved your question to be useless.
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If Apple Watch is doing that great, why aren't they releasing sales like they used to do?
12 million units pulled right out of some "analysts" ass.
If you're going to disvalidate numbers from accredited and reliable third party analyst firms... then you have nothing to back your argument up with either. You're right, it may not be 12 million. It could be 40. Apparently you don't think I need proof for that because any legitimate proof you don't agree with, so I'm going to say it's right and you're wrong.
 
3) Show me a tech company that doesn't care about profits over anything else, and I'll show you a unicorn.
7) This profit-first mentality has worked for Apple for decades, as it has for every other company ever...
Apple has a sort of monopoly on things since they're the only ones that make OSX and iOS devices. Given all of the "I'd use Windows but it's Windows" remarks, this still seems to be true, so in that regard, they don't have competition. They're like Cox, Comcast, Mediacom, and many of the ISPs. They CAN afford to call the shots more.

However, they still need to care a set minimum about customers because that also gets them profits. OTOH, if it turns out the folks pissed off at the lack of Iph7's headphone jack and the issues with the new MBP aren't enough to cut into the profits they'd like to make, then yeah, I stand corrected and they are doing fine. Or, they can afford to piss off some Mac users this year, but perhaps years down the line, they'll released a "more definitive version" that'll bring critics back, then I stand corrected again.
 
Apple really is rudderless these days. Blowing billions of dollars on hair brained driverless car projects, acquiring headphone companies, selling ridiculous gaudy $20K watches....

I love Apple, I have owned every iPhone ever made, but it's sad to watch them try to turn in to a fashion/accessory brand and completely losing focus on what they do best. It's absolutely disgusting that they only JUST this year increased the base model iPhone from 16GB to 32GB. They should have done that years ago. It just goes to show that Apple cares more about profits than anything else, even at the expense of their long term brand.

The future of tech is AI. Apple should be starting gigantic research initiatives in the field of AI instead of wasting time with gimmicky watches and car projects. Apple has done an excellent job on making a truly impressive CPU/GPU for the iPhone (the A10 is amazing), and I wish they would focus more on the raw tech rather than trying to make their phones & laptops even more thinner and prettier.
complete nonsense. youre respoding to rumors - nobody knows the extent or breadth of any car project.

and Beats is a massively profitable company and brand. best selling accessory in apple stores, leader in wireless sales. and its products literally plug into (or not) apple's. like peanutbutter & chocolate. get over it.
[doublepost=1479930243][/doublepost]christ i can barely ready MR any longer -- the sheer volume of crap, nonsense, FUD, and trolling in the comments is of EPIC proportions.

it all went downhill when they got rid of the down-vote button. now all we see in the top-comments are the pile ons on popular concern-troll posts....

"Apple is doomed", "Apple has lost its way", "Apple can't lead", blah blah blah.... all nonsense. all over this site. every day.
 
I love Apple, I have owned every iPhone ever made, but it's sad to watch them try to turn in to a fashion/accessory brand and completely losing focus on what they do best.
You know you should listen to one of Steve Jobs previous keynote presentations. His own words out of his own mouth are: “Technology alone is not enough. It’s technology married with the liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our hearts sing.” A lot of criticism is tossed Apple -- They've lost their way, they don't care about tech anymore, all they care about is fashion, too focused on thin and light.

Yet Steve Jobs himself who: "would never do" (whatever it is Apple is doing under Tim Cook that you don't like) -- says, No. If you just want technology we aren't your source.

Bemoan the reality that consumers are flocking to, spending more money on, or just enjoying their Apple products over technically superior competing products. Get upset over it. Then maybe ask your preferred manufacturer to give a crap about the user experience, battery life, weight, look and feel, even fashionability -- specifically at the expense of tech and/or price.

I mean, it's quite the indictment against Windows and Android product manufacturers that they can pack all that tech into a laptop, desktop, phone, or tablet and they just barely can make any margin on it. Yet, Apple continues to outsell, while making quite the tidy profit margin.

Which is why the MS Surface Studio is interesting to me -- Not that I care for Windows or need a Cintiq. But, it got Apple critics here all in a lather because they felt Microsoft has out "innovated" Apple. Possibly, it even was making their hearts "sing". Specifically, though it is that critics were responding favorably to a PC where choices (at the expense of options) were made. It's not a user serviceable PC. You buy it in a pre-configured state. It ships with last years generation graphics architecture. It's very expensive. But, it looks amazing. And it seem as like thought was put into how it *would* be used (as opposed it -could- be used).

Now, IMO, of course -- It's hobbled by Windows 10. But, it's amazing step away from "options" in a PC. If the Surface Studio encourages more 'mixing of liberal arts and technology' or 'Technology married with the humanities' on the Windows PC side -- I'm all for it.
 
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I get that.

But Apple Inc. as a whole company made 9 billion profit. there is no way that 8.5 billion of that profit was derived solely from phones. that would mean that the rest of the companies products only generated 500 million. that's why I call BS.

Ohhhh... I see.

Yeah something's wrong there.

Well... it wouldn't be the first time an analytics firm messed with the numbers.
 
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iPhone sales may have declined for three consecutive quarters, but the latest data from research firm Strategy Analytics suggests Apple is unsurprisingly still doing exceptionally well in the smartphone market.

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Apple captured a record 91% of profits in the worldwide smartphone market in the third quarter, or $8.5 billion of the overall $9 billion in profits recorded by all vendors combined, according to Strategy Analytics.

Apple's biggest competitor Samsung was nowhere to be found on the list, as Chinese smartphone makers Huawei, Vivo, and OPPO took the second, third, and fourth spots respectively with between 2.2% and 2.4% of profits.Apple's profit margin is impressive given no other smartphone maker generated more than $200 million in profits during the quarter, according to Strategy Analytics. Apple's share of profits was some 40× larger than its closest competitor.

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iPhone sales declined on a year-over-year basis in the second, third, and fourth quarters of the 2016 fiscal year, after rising only marginally during the first quarter, which makes Apple's record-breaking smartphone profits even more impressive.

BMO Capital Markets analyst Tim Long previously estimated Apple captured 103.6% of smartphone industry profits in the third quarter. Long's estimate factors in companies that lost money during the quarter, placing Apple above 100%.

Article Link: iPhone Generated Record-Breaking Share of Profits Last Quarter Despite Continued Sales Decline

so, just remember, boasting about "record profits" compared to competition who sells more means 1 thing only

Margins are higher at Apple. that means, you are effectively paying more money per item than the costs.

that doesn't benefit us as consumers in any way. Apple could afford to cut the prices by 20% and still be insanely profitable

you know where all those profits are going? Not to taxes. Not to us in savings. They're going to TIm COok's and other executives pockets.

Boasting about huge profits isn't as good as Mac Rumors makes it out to be.

All companies generally need to be profitable. perating at a loss isn't good. But operating at insane profit margins for the sake of insane profit margins eventually bites you in the ass when people start to realize there are more affordable options that offer similar experience (in any mature market, Parity products will always take share away from those who believe they have the "right" to big profit)
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If Apple Watch is doing that great, why aren't they releasing sales like they used to do?
12 million units pulled right out of some "analysts" ass.
Never mind that, even those numbers indicate a precipitous fall off after the first quarter, with the vast majority of Watch sales in the first couple months.

What it indicates is that the typical Apple marketing, early adopters, and fanboys got theirs, and then the rest of the world went "meh"

It's not a slam against the watch, it's just not the world changing device to the vast majority that Apple wanted is to believe it would be.

its an ok smart watch, but a revolution, market altering product it is not.
 
People are holding on to their phones longer and, as everybody has mentioned for months now, the 7 is more of a holdover until the supposed revolutionary 8.

Out of curiosity, after how many quarters of decline should Apple start worrying?
 
So again, the fact that I've outlined how I've built my workflow around my choice of devices means nothing to you. I should just buy a $50 Indian made smartphone instead?
As a opposed to a $50 Chinese one? And I say that without implying any slur against either country's people or their ability to make phones or anything else, which I doubt was what you were illustrating whilst mentioning "Indian"

Anyhow back to the point, we, irrespective of what it costs to make, pay way over the top for our products and despite what you might think, Apple takes the cream pie in this regard.

I don't doubt you have built your workflow around the devices, if I had spent the best part of $2K on them, I would too, as well spending the rest of my life justifying it!
 
so, just remember, boasting about "record profits" compared to competition who sells more means 1 thing only

Margins are higher at Apple. that means, you are effectively paying more money per item than the costs.

that doesn't benefit us as consumers in any way. Apple could afford to cut the prices by 20% and still be insanely profitable

you know where all those profits are going? Not to taxes. Not to us in savings. They're going to TIm COok's and other executives pockets.

Boasting about huge profits isn't as good as Mac Rumors makes it out to be.

All companies generally need to be profitable. perating at a loss isn't good. But operating at insane profit margins for the sake of insane profit margins eventually bites you in the ass when people start to realize there are more affordable options that offer similar experience (in any mature market, Parity products will always take share away from those who believe they have the "right" to big profit)

Isn't Apple's profit margin around 28% nowadays?

That's not very high.

I think people are confused about the iPhone's BOM of $250 with a retail price of $650.

But that's not exactly how it works. They're forgetting all the hardware engineers it took to make the iPhone. A lot of salaries there. And marketing costs. Shipping costs. Logistics. Etc.

And don't forget Apple's SOFTWARE ENGINEERS. They need to be paid too.

The iPhone doesn't just appear out of thin air and then mass produced by Foxconn. A lot of money was spent on it before it even hit the assembly line.

Maybe instead of thinking Apple's margins are too high... ask why everyone else's margins are so low.

Is it because they're selling a bunch of low-margin crap? Ding, ding, ding.

If they're selling a phone for $100... there simply isn't a lot of money to be made... if any.

Hell... there are some companies who post a LOSS over the quarter. They literally make ZERO dollars in profit. Less than zero, actually.

How does making ZERO dollars affect those companies' profit margin? Hint: there isn't any profit margin.

So before we scold Apple for making "too much" profit... let's figure out why some companies don't make a profit at all.
 
Isn't Apple's profit margin around 28% nowadays?

That's not very high.

I think people are confused about the iPhone's BOM of $250 with a retail price of $650.

But that's not exactly how it works. They're forgetting all the hardware engineers it took to make the iPhone. A lot of salaries there. And marketing costs. Shipping costs. Logistics. Etc.

And don't forget Apple's SOFTWARE ENGINEERS. They need to be paid too.

The iPhone doesn't just appear out of thin air and then mass produced by Foxconn. A lot of money was spent on it before it even hit the assembly line.

Maybe instead of thinking Apple's margins are too high... ask why everyone else's margins are so low.

Is it because they're selling a bunch of low-margin crap? Ding, ding, ding.

If they're selling a phone for $100... there simply isn't a lot of money to be made... if any.

Hell... there are some companies who post a LOSS over the quarter. They literally make ZERO dollars in profit. Less than zero, actually.

How does making ZERO dollars affect those companies' profit margin? Hint: there isn't any profit margin.

So before we scold Apple for making "too much" profit... let's figure out why some companies don't make a profit at all.
Your confusing things.

Profit, is already the number that takes into account all costs, including Rd and the people.

Profit is what's left after all costs.


I'm not against companies who profit. Capitalism makes lots of stuff happen. And good on anyone who can earn themselves a good living.


But when that company starts boasting about it, while showing huge profit margins, and also finding ways of "cheating out" on labour, lawsuits, parts, quality, etc, while still boasting higher than industry averages in profit, that's pure profiteering and that bothers my own personal ethics.


Don't boast 9bilion in profit, then refuse to pay your staff an extra 15 minutes you make them wait for a bag check, or continue to use the cheapest overseas factories with known human rights issues. Or jacking up prices internationally to make the profit margins look bigger, or hold money off shore to avoid paying taxes on the very same money you've claimed as profit.
 
so, just remember, boasting about "record profits" compared to competition who sells more means 1 thing only

Margins are higher at Apple. that means, you are effectively paying more money per item than the costs.
Umm yeah, that's kinda how the concept of profits work. You sell an item for more than what it costs to make it.

that doesn't benefit us as consumers in any way. Apple could afford to cut the prices by 20% and still be insanely profitable
That's a pretty bad slippery slope. If course, all other things equal, anything could be cheaper if a company is willing to take on less profits. It's not a phenomenon which is limited solely to Apple.

The question one should be asking is - does the iPhone continue to provide value for money for them despite that higher price tag? If so, buy it. If not, then don't buy it. How much Apple would earn from it is besides the point.

For me, it's an unequivocal yes.

What I am paying for is Apple's expertise in being able to put all these parts together into a smartphone which offers a unique user experience that no other company can replicate. It doesn't matter if other companies use more expensive products. If the final product still sucks or offers a bad user experience, what's the point?

It's the same rationale why a 5-star chef can command higher prices than a normal eatery even if both cooks use the same ingredients. Or why a more qualified plastic surgeon can charge more than a normal doctor.

What does it say when the iPhone offers a better user experience despite using cheaper parts compared to the competition who use more expensive, supposedly-better components?
you know where all those profits are going? Not to taxes. Not to us in savings. They're going to TIm COok's and other executives pockets.

Boasting about huge profits isn't as good as Mac Rumors makes it out to be.

All companies generally need to be profitable. perating at a loss isn't good. But operating at insane profit margins for the sake of insane profit margins eventually bites you in the ass when people start to realize there are more affordable options that offer similar experience (in any mature market, Parity products will always take share away from those who believe they have the "right" to big profit)
Except that what you are claiming hasn't happened.

You are not the first self-styled "analyst" to claim that the iPhone would meet its doom at the hands of cheaper, better-specced Android alternatives. Ironically, the opposite has happened. As the average selling price of the iPhone increased, sales increased as well. Which means that more people actually bought the iPhone even as it became more expensive! The iPhones's recent record profits are testament to that.

There's something unique about the iPhone which makes it uncannily resistant to commoditisation as defined in a business textbook, if not flat out immune. At any rate, normal business theories don't seem to apple to Apple here.

I can't explain it either, but it's there.
Never mind that, even those numbers indicate a precipitous fall off after the first quarter, with the vast majority of Watch sales in the first couple months.

What it indicates is that the typical Apple marketing, early adopters, and fanboys got theirs, and then the rest of the world went "meh"

It's not a slam against the watch, it's just not the world changing device to the vast majority that Apple wanted is to believe it would be.

its an ok smart watch, but a revolution, market altering product it is not.
The iPhone didn't take the world by storm right from the beginning either.

Considering that there is practically zero competition in the market for smart watches, I would say that Apple has all the time in the world it needs to make the Apple Watch a success.

Watch, as Apple continues to claw its way all the way to the top.
 
Umm yeah, that's kinda how the concept of profits work. You sell an item for more than what it costs to make it.

I've never said profit is bad. You're extrapolating and applying bias to my comment


That's a pretty bad slippery slope. If course, all other things equal, anything could be cheaper if a company is willing to take on less profits. It's not a phenomenon which is limited solely to Apple.

The question one should be asking is - does the iPhone continue to provide value for money for them despite that higher price tag? If so, buy it. If not, then don't buy it. How much Apple would earn from it is besides the point.

For me, it's an unequivocal yes.

That's fine. I always encourage individuals doing their own value proposition. But to my own, no the iPhone and now the mbp no longer fit my value proposition. Your opinion doesn't trump mine, and mine does t yours.


What I am paying for is Apple's expertise in being able to put all these parts together into a smartphone which offers a unique user experience that no other company can replicate. It doesn't matter if other companies use more expensive products. If the final product still sucks or offers a bad user experience, what's the point?

It's the same rationale why a 5-star chef can command higher prices than a normal eatery even if both cooks use the same ingredients. Or why a more qualified plastic surgeon can charge more than a normal doctor.

But if the barrier of entry to that 5 star chef is a 2 hour wait for example, does the value potentially not change for each person?

What does it say when the iPhone offers a better user experience despite using cheaper parts compared to the competition who use more expensive, supposedly-better components?

I've used iPhones. I do not see that automatic better experience. Just like android. Or winphone. They all have things they do better than each other. Believing one is perfect and the others suck is naive.

Except that what you are claiming hasn't happened.

I have never, ever claimed Apple is doomed. And in fact, if you've paid attention to the earnings calls, the last 3 quarters have seen Apple revenues and profits declining.. believing that Apple is infallible is also extremely naive. They, like every company needs to continue to improve itself and stay not ask for more than the market will bear. The market has also shifted considerably from under Apple. They will need to do something to stay on top for the long term. Once any market reaches maturity, the price structure almost always shifts, as the costs go down due to economies of scale,

You are not the first self-styled "analyst" to claim that the iPhone would meet its doom at the hands of cheaper, better-specced Android alternatives. Ironically, the opposite has happened. As the average selling price of the iPhone increased, sales increased as well. Which means that more people actually bought the iPhone even as it became more expensive! The iPhones's recent record profits are testament to that.

This isn't true.

First off, the analyst title is on my business cards :p so it's not just me self styling... second of, go back and check the last year of Apple earnings that has seen lower volumes of sales, requiring increased margins to soften the decrease in volume. Apple has not increased its revenues and volumes in the last year. the very thing I've mentioned above, about maturing markets is happening.

There's something unique about the iPhone which makes it uncannily resistant to commoditisation as defined in a business textbook, if not flat out immune. At any rate, normal business theories don't seem to apple to Apple here.

I'm sorry. What's unique? In 2007 that argument might hold, but in 2016, there isn't so much uniqueness when the vast majority of products do similar, and in many cases more. The iPhone is a great phone. I'm not a doom sayer calling it crap. But to claim some magical inherent uniques comes from a point of naievity.
I can't explain it either, but it's there.

The iPhone didn't take the world by storm right from the beginning either.

Youre right . It was t until 2010 that the iPhone overtook the long time reigning champion in smartphone sales, blackberry. And there's a lesson there about hubris. Bbry biggest (but not only) failing was believing to themselves that they were the best, and that nobody could live without one of their uniquely functional devices, it's now 2016, and ask them now how theyve faired thinking just because they were #1 for a long time, that they were invincible


Considering that there is practically zero competition in the market for smart watches, I would say that Apple has all the time in the world it needs to make the Apple Watch a success.

I do agree here, android wear seems to have abandoned the smart watch market. Apple seems to be the only premium player who still cares. And sales have been flat since initial launch. Maybe they can make something's no of this market with more time. I'm not entirely convinced, but I'm not against the watch. Nice device. Not my style though.


Watch, as Apple continues to claw its way all the way to the top

Continues? They were already on top. Two to threeyears ago they were selling a lot more voluminous than today. Again, go read the last few quarters, their numbers have already started declining. They're not clawing up, they're holding on, the next 2 years will be the real telling of how apples future will look. But anyone claiming Dom and gloom is a sensationalist. But anyone claiming roses and glory is also missing the real picture.
This post is so laughably naive.

I've put my comments inline, since I'm on my iPad.
 
As a opposed to a $50 Chinese one? And I say that without implying any slur against either country's people or their ability to make phones or anything else, which I doubt was what you were illustrating whilst mentioning "Indian"

Anyhow back to the point, we, irrespective of what it costs to make, pay way over the top for our products and despite what you might think, Apple takes the cream pie in this regard.

I don't doubt you have built your workflow around the devices, if I had spent the best part of $2K on them, I would too, as well spending the rest of my life justifying it!
I chose Indian because I read about a $50 smartphone one of their domestic companies was producing, you're right that I didn't mean any slur against India (which is the next major manufacturing country).

I understand that I "overpay" for the products I use, but given I keep a phone for three years, a laptop for 5, and my iPads for 3-4 years I can't justify the hassle of using Android tablets or phones when my main machine is a MacBook compared to the marginal uptick in cost over the lifespan of the product.
 
I guess Apple eventually will become only a telephone company.
That is what they care since Looking at the latest product releases most of them were a disaster.
The Mac Pro was a failure,
The New Macbook is a disaster and overpriced. You cannot even connect your own iPhone...
Apple fastest growing product category is the adaptors...how lame is that?

I guess innovation and think different died with Jobs... so sad...
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That's good and all, but I'd also like to see them focus more on the Mac and actually make the Mac line relevant again (I love the 2016 rMBP but the Mini and Pro are severely gimped).
The ENTIRE Mac hardware line up looks like a joke (with very few exceptions).
THe MAC PRO is a complete failure.
The Mac Mini were not updated in the last how many years?
The iMacs need update too. THey are limited to 16GB ram and the internal and the monitor can not be adjusted.
THe small Macbook Pro (old) they removed all the ports... but they still call it "PRO"
The new released Macbook is another joke.

It is really sad to see a company like Apple in the path to self-destruction.
Phill Schiller and whomever plans the hardware releases need to be fired.
 
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Apple has a sort of monopoly on things since they're the only ones that make OSX and iOS devices. Given all of the "I'd use Windows but it's Windows" remarks, this still seems to be true, so in that regard, they don't have competition. They're like Cox, Comcast, Mediacom, and many of the ISPs. They CAN afford to call the shots more.

However, they still need to care a set minimum about customers because that also gets them profits. OTOH, if it turns out the folks pissed off at the lack of Iph7's headphone jack and the issues with the new MBP aren't enough to cut into the profits they'd like to make, then yeah, I stand corrected and they are doing fine. Or, they can afford to piss off some Mac users this year, but perhaps years down the line, they'll released a "more definitive version" that'll bring critics back, then I stand corrected again.
I agree, but I'd word it as incentivizing consumers to buy products falls under one way to increase profits.
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Out of curiosity, after how many quarters of decline should Apple start worrying?
Depends on the circumstance. With a quality product in the wings, as well as profits still increasing... many more.
 
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