iPhone OS 4.0 Claimed to Include Multitasking, Revamped Interface

[cmaier]

Anyone else hate the names that people are using for the tablet? Honestly, iSomething is kinda overkill on these products. Can't we just call it the Apple Slate or Apple Tablet? The current use of iSomething is fine with Apple's current product line but enough already.


That said. Woooohoo! Can't wait to see what comes out.
I really want Apple to FINISH the 64bit apps. Not getting a 64bit iTunes this last year was a little sad given all the SL 64bit hype. Give me iLife '10 in full 64bit and new features too!

If it's just called "slate" or "tablet" then it can't be trademarked, and everyone else can come out with devices with the same name.

 

[ChazUK]

It's interesting that the Android fans trumpet the infinite hackability of Android without acknowledging that the iPhone is just as hackable with a quick and easy jailbreak. Apple disapproves, Google looks the other way, but the end result is the same.

So you get the flexibility of Android with the finely honed UI polish of the iPhone OS. Seems the iPhone has a serious advantage in this regard.

Disapproves? They don't want you to do that at all more like.

If Apple could completely eliminate Jailbreaking I bet they would. It's only the hackers who are clever enough to keep on top of Apple's shenanigans that make Jailbreaking possible.

 

[lightpeak]

You're talking Ballmer and moth-infested WinMo I suppose?

1) By REAL network I assume you mean one that can handle simultaneous voice/data and has the fastest 3G speeds, like AT&T?

Troll Different.

"AT&T would have to spend between $5 to $7 billion in order to equal Verizon's current level of investment."

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...es_could_cost_billions_to_remedy_analyst.html

All the more sweeter it was posted on an Apple forum (where Apple & AT&T enjoy a cozy in-bed relationship).

You were sayinng, fanboy???? Sure makes you want to vomit when you see one of Luke Wilson's smarmy untrue ads. Oh, yeah, I forgot... you gooble up whatever you're spoon-fed! HA!

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...t_atandt_needs_to_spend_us5b_to_catch_up.html

 

[MorphingDragon]

You were sayinng, fanboy????

Wheres my Mirror.

Even by NZ standards Verizon sucks major...

Telecom is like 2degrees in comparison.

 

[Littlewizkid]

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Finally, our long national nightmare is over. I, for one, welcome our new battery-sucking background apps.

just carry an extra battery with you... oh wait.

Not an iPhone fanboy but I have seen external batteries which fit like a phone case

 

[cmaier]

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Not an iPhone fanboy but I have seen external batteries which fit like a phone case

If you keep reading the thread you'll see a lengthy discussion of those.

 

[duck apple]

Mobile Me already has a great push sync for contacts and calenders, what else could make it more efficient?

That's is the only rumor I challenge.

So true. And don't forget Google Mail also supports push mail now (in beta state).

 

[Freis968]

Not that it impacts me, but I guess there's yet another way to prod iPhone 2G users to upgrade....

Yep, they are finally forcing my hand here...

 

[duck apple]

I want them to fix Push. It only works for Apple apps, all other applications doesn't work at all or just few days.

The 3G/Edge data connection must be enabled all the time for push notification to work reliably; WiFi alone won't make it.

 

[iMaggot]

I really hope this is true, Can't wait to see some multitasking on the iPhone.

 

[duck apple]

When did I ever cry foul about upgrading hardware to run Vista? I understand that you have to leave old hardware behind at some point. Hell, I'm still running XP on my 1.5 year old laptop.

But I'm running Snow Leopard on my 3 years old Mac Mini and feel the performance and functionality gain of upgrading OS itself.

 

[duck apple]

Yep..
Nokia had been working on a touch screen device even before the iPhone had been released- they needed the device plus the ability for the OS ( S60 / Symbian ) to support touch screens

I had a Nokia smartphone with large touch screen well before 1st gen iPhone. A junk. I couldn't believe a company of that size and good reputation would give us such a crap. It killed my love and respect to Nokia.

 

[duck apple]

Folders, folders, folders!

Folder is not going to fix it all.

We also need a page jump feature. Say, press a 'GPS' icon on the dock bar and directly go to a page named 'GPS' containing all GPS related apps.

And to support this feature really elegantly, we need to shrink the icon to put more icons in the dock bar.

And then, we need to have a mechanism to have a quick view of all those push notifications from all apps so we don't have to decide it's better to put icons of app needing our constant checking of their push notification status or those quick jump icons in the dock bar.

My JB iPhone has all of these features (+ somewhat broken multitasking) and I don't feel the urge to switch to Android.

 

[greygray]

Finally multitasking! How about different themes for the iPhone? This year certainly is one to look out for.

 

[duck apple]

[/QUOTE]
Spotlight, it's just a matter of getting into the habit. Try forcing it on yourself with the phone for a few days, you'll be surprised how easily you pick it up.[/QUOTE]
But I can't possibly remember all the name my 200 apps, can I?

 

[aristobrat]

Yep, they are finally forcing my hand here...

Gesh, if that makes you , you'd really be 'ng if you were a Windows Mobile user, where you're lucky if your device gets even one major OS upgrade. AFAIK, nobody's officially told the first Android owners (T-Mobile G1) if they're going to get to upgrade to Android v2.1. If not, then they didn't even get one major update. Talk about !

Your iPhone's had two major OS upgrades, with a bunch of minor releases in-between. That's fairly unheard of in the world of smartphones!

 

[ChazUK]

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Yep, they are finally forcing my hand here...

Gesh, if that makes you , you'd really be 'ng if you were a Windows Mobile user, where you're lucky if your device gets even one major OS upgrade. AFAIK, nobody's officially told the first Android owners (T-Mobile G1) if they're going to get to upgrade to Android v2.1. If not, then they didn't even get one major update. Talk about !

Your iPhone's had two major OS upgrades, with a bunch of minor releases in-between. That's fairly unheard of in the world of smartphones!

Bit we are now verging on the cusp of evil fragmentation. The same evil fragmentation that plagues Android which people like to complain about.

I was under the impression that iPhone owners were all equal the way people talk around here. One platform, one os, one design and no consumer confusion. If it does happen will fragmentation be forgotten as a problem?

 

[Stella]

I had a Nokia smartphone with large touch screen well before 1st gen iPhone. A junk. I couldn't believe a company of that size and good reputation would give us such a crap. It killed my love and respect to Nokia.

Which one was it?

It took Nokia several years to add Touch to S60 as a final product. (Not that S60 was there only platform - S40, S80 etc etc )

 

[goosnarrggh]

The GAAP issue is a tricky one, and I'd be inclined to say that Apple could provide updates (for example, 3.1.2 was released just 3 months ago and included support for the original iPhone for free).

It was free for all (non-GAPP) iPod touch users (if they already had 3.0) as well. I was under the impression that if the upgrade was mainly to fix problems and bugs relating to features that had already been delivered, rather than to introduce significant new features, there were no GAAP-related problem in offering updates for free indefinitely.

 

[distortedloop]

Finally multitasking! How about different themes for the iPhone? This year certainly is one to look out for.

Beyond wallpapers I don't see Apple giving us themes. Even on your Mac there's not much you can do to "theme" it beyond changing the background color. I'm not much of a themes person anyway. I look at the screenshots of themes jailbreaker's post and think "my god, how frickin' ugly is that" on about 99% of them - but clearly that's just a matter of taste.

Bit we are now verging on the cusp of evil fragmentation. The same evil fragmentation that plagues Android which people like to complain about.

I was under the impression that iPhone owners were all equal the way people talk around here. One platform, one os, one design and no consumer confusion. If it does happen will fragmentation be forgotten as a problem?

Apple took a few years to do it, but they eventually threw the PowerPC owners under the no-more-OS-upgrade bus. They'll have to do the same with iPhones as hardware expectations and capabilities improve. The cell market is moving so fast, I'd expect it sooner than later, but given that the 3G and the original iPhone have identical hardware, it would be hard to justify leaving the original behind while letting 3G phones move forward.

Leaving old hardware behind doesn't feel like the kind of fragmentation in the way Android's market has been fragmented - which has multiple companies doing multiple UIs.

 

[scottylans]

I know many people don't care and even less apple developers read this but..

how about the goddamn description of a podcast when playing it???
The ipod supports it, why doesn't the iphone? I hate the missing description, it's ********.
Either the iphone is an ipod and a phone, or it isn't but missing that can be frustrating as a podcast only listener.


EDIT:
Would love to be able to disable the damned search entirely and just have the right swipe just take me back around instead.

 

[goosnarrggh]

I wish I could tell you but I am not a CPA or CFO lol. Also, I thought the GAAP changed so that they can now report ALL revenue upfront immediately and not withhold ANY!

They didn't completely drop the requirement to withhold some revenue. They just reduced the percentage that needs to be held back.

Under the old rules, Apple basically had to chop up all of its revenue for each iPhone into equal instalments over the full period that they intended to continue introducing new features. Over 24 months, that would be 8 quarters, so they would report 1/8th of the revenue each quarter.

The new rules allow Apple to estimate, on a product-by-product basis, what percentage of the total value in the product was hidden in potential future upgrades, and only defer accounting of that percentage.

Apple believes (and most analysts agree) that the majority of the value in the iPhone is delivered up front, with a relatively smaller amount of value delivered over time through upgrades. So the majority of the revenue can be reported up front, and only a small part needs to be held back for future quarters.

Reference:
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/10/21/inside-apples-iphone-subscription-accounting-changes/
See especially the final 9 paragraphs.

 

[jouster]

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I know many people don't care and even less apple developers read this but..

how about the goddamn description of a podcast when playing it???
The ipod supports it, why doesn't the iphone? I hate the missing description, it's ********.
Either the iphone is an ipod and a phone, or it isn't but missing that can be frustrating as a podcast only listener.


EDIT:
Would love to be able to disable the damned search entirely and just have the right swipe just take me back around instead.

+++ on the right swipe.

 

[iphones4evry1]

If I could simply run two applications at once, I would be a heck of a lot happier than right now. When I click on a link in an App and Safari opens, it would be nice to go right back to the first App in the exact same way that I left it (because it was never closed).

 

[cmaier]

If I could simply run two applications at once, I would be a heck of a lot happier than right now. When I click on a link in an App and Safari opens, it would be nice to go right back to the first App in the exact same way that I left it (because it was never closed).

It's the app's fault that it doesn't. Apps are supposed to save and restore their state. Mine do.