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Notice the abyss in the green line? yeah, that's what I think about HDR in most instances.

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Exactly.

Wikipedia agrees with me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging: The proces of merging photos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracketing: The act of taking multiple photos.



I'm willing to compare my wiki-evidence against your own evidence, but you've yet to post any links supporting your argument.

I'll be happy to compare your links to mine just as soon as you decide to share any.
 
Exactly.

Wikipedia agrees with me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracketing

I'm willing to compare my wiki-evidence against your own evidence, but you've yet to post any links supporting your argument.

I'll be happy to compare your links to mine just as soon as you decide to share any.

The second link you posted should do just fine. Particularly this line from the article:

"Images produced using exposure bracketing are often combined in postprocessing to create a high dynamic range image that exposes different portions of the image by different amounts."

...but by all means, please continue to keep putting your foot in your mouth. Don't let me stop you from displaying your ignorance to the entire forum.
 
Its nice to see a few people (jerks) hijack a thread in order to have a flame/argument about what something is or isn't.

Thanks guys.

I am one of many people that ARE NOT photographers. You know, those of us that outnumber those of you that are.
I for one like the "HDR" or whatever you think you want to call it. I believe that my PHONE and I will make use of it. A gimmick, or whatever you want to say it is, is fine with me. Its a phone. Not a $17000 camera.

Sheesh.

P.S. No one really cares how long you've been an expensive picture taker. :D

and it's always the same few people as well lol
 
The second link you posted should do just fine. Particularly this line from the article:

"Images produced using exposure bracketing are often combined in postprocessing to create a high dynamic range image that exposes different portions of the image by different amounts."

...but by all means, please continue to keep putting your foot in your mouth. Don't let me stop you from displaying your ignorance to the entire forum.

Sorry, but you just proved his point. I underlined the part that proves it. Bracketing, as I said before, is just the first step in HDR. You are conveniently leaving out the step of combining the images. The HDR feature on the iP4 will take 3 shots and combine them. Bracketting is the process of taking multuple shots at different exposures. if you do not do anything else then you have still bracketed your photos. That does not mean that you then have a HDR image. You need to then combine those images in order for it to be a HDR image.
 
The second link you posted should do just fine. Particularly this line from the article:

"Images produced using exposure bracketing are often combined in postprocessing to create a high dynamic range image that exposes different portions of the image by different amounts."

If you're right and they're the same thing, we should be able to switch them around. Let's try it:

"Images produced using high dynamic range are often combined in postprocessing to create exposure bracketing that exposes different portions of the image by different amounts."

You're honestly telling me that this makes sense to you?

You can "combine images to create exposure bracketing?"
 
Quick sample from 4.1 GM on IP4:

HDR Off:

HDR_Sample_Off.jpg


HDR On:

HDR_Sample_On.jpg


Photo with HDR on is much closer to how it looks to the naked eye.
 
If you're right and they're the same thing, we should be able to switch them around. Let's try it:

You must not have much schooling your background. Stop trying to twist your statement now that I have demonstrated how incorrect it was.

"A is a part of B" does not necessarily mean that "B is a part of A".

You saying that that HDR is "not really" bracketing is exactly like saying that a triathlon is "not really" swimming or "not really" running.

Only someone who didn't know what they were talking about would deign to make such a statement (which you did).
 
You must not have much schooling your background. Stop trying to twist your statement now that I have demonstrated how incorrect it was.

"A is a part of B" does not necessarily mean that "B is a part of A".

You saying that that HDR is "not really" bracketing is exactly like saying that a triathlon is "not really" swimming or "not really" running.

Only someone who didn't know what they were talking about would deign to make such a statement (which you did).
Once again you proved him right. Swimming is NOT a triathalon. Running is NOT a triathlon. You keep leaving out steps in processes and saying they are the same thing. A triathlon consists is swimming, biking, and running. HRD is bracketing AND COMBINING.
 
You must not have much schooling your background. Stop trying to twist your statement now that I have demonstrated how incorrect it was.

"A is a part of B" does not necessarily mean that "B is a part of A".

You saying that that HDR is "not really" bracketing is exactly like saying that a triathlon is "not really" swimming or "not really" running.

Only someone who didn't know what they were talking about would deign to make such a statement (which you did).

Hmmm interesting point. But then again a triathlon isn't swimming or running. It's a combination of different events. So bracketing isn't HDR - it's a part of HDR. A subset as you say. Not synonymous - right? Not trying to be argumentative.. but just using your example
 
Hdr and bracketing is very different thing.when you start to take hdr photo you usually take 3-9 shot with different exposures ( i never bracket my shots i change the exposure manually) then combine those images manually or with program like photomatix and tweak it out.Main idea is to get good over all exposures on diffucult situations.And HDR isnt apples innovation it has been for years..
 
You saying that that HDR is "not really" bracketing is exactly like saying that a triathlon is "not really" swimming or "not really" running.

And a cake is "not really" an egg.
And a car is "not really" a steering wheel.
And a school is "not really" a teacher.
And HDR is "not really" bracketing.

Do you disagree with ALL of these, or just the last one? This is a serious question. Would you say that "a teacher is the same thing as a school"? Because that sounds odd to my ears.
 
What the hell? Still fighting over even a trivial topic? Bracketing is not the same as HDR.
 
Bracketing is a photography process. HDR is an image effect. You achieve HDR through the process of bracketing. You don't produce a "bracket" photo, just as you don't "HDR" photos. You bracket photos, then combine them to create the HDR effect.
 
Hmmm interesting point. But then again a triathlon isn't swimming or running. It's a combination of different events. So bracketing isn't HDR - it's a part of HDR. A subset as you say. Not synonymous - right? Not trying to be argumentative.. but just using your example

How much more synonymous can you get? The reason why photographers traditionally bracket exposures is to get a properly exposed photograph with the maximum dynamic range. In the film days they would cut and paste different sections of negatives together to get the desired result.

Computers and digital cameras allow this to be done on individual pixels instead of having to crop/cut contiguous sections from a photo. Someone along the way started bracketing darker-than normal exposures and brighter-than-normal exposures and called it "HDR" even though it is the same exact technique that people had already been using for years.

Coming along and giving something a different name doesn't make the thing itself different. HDR is bracketing. If, as you claim, it is not, then I'd like to see you do HDR without bracketing.
 
Well, as long as I'm under NDA I can't tell you that this is from personal experience, but...

It seems to work well (from what apple said of course ;)) but still doesn't compare to manually doing it in Photoshop.

That being said, this is going to result in a lot of pictures that abuse HDR. It really should only be used occasionally, and it makes photos look fake
 
I have a question about HDR. If you take a picture with hdr on, is it triple the file size? Normal size?

Also, when you take a picture with hdr on... Will it save a non hdr picture to the camera roll also?
 
I have a question about HDR. If you take a picture with hdr on, is it triple the file size? Normal size?

Also, when you take a picture with hdr on... Will it save a non hdr picture to the camera roll also?

Same size (or close enough) and yes, saves both.
 
Actually you CAN. Go to photoshop and darken a normal picture then do opposite brighten up the normal picture. Combine all three you got a HDR pic.

Guess what darkening and lightening the exposure (or brightness) of a photo is.... (i'll give you a hint, it starts with a "b")
 
Bracketing is a photography process. HDR is an image effect. You achieve HDR through the process of bracketing. You don't produce a "bracket" photo, just as you don't "HDR" photos. You bracket photos, then combine them to create the HDR effect.

Well said...
 
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