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iPhone Pre-Launch Hype Continues

On the EDGE thing.. has anyone considered that Apple is not the only company holding out on 3G right now...?

As of now, there are no 3G Blackberrys but they sure are selling a ton of 8800 and Curves to people who are not normally your typical BB user!

The iPhone will be the first device that may pry my BB from my hands.. If and when I get .mac sync OTA I will be a very happy camper.
 
sbrownla said:
Well, 3g is a frequency issue and that information would have already had to have been approved by the FCC or Apple is going to be in a LOT of trouble.

But I agree with you about EDGE. I remember when I got Windows Live Search with the arial maps and stuff, and it is optimized for EDGE and works really well on my HTC. I wouldn't be surprised if it works just fine. Anyway, 3g on a device with a slow processor is nightmarish.
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I am not familiar with the FCC certification process and what has to be certified and when but I can say that it is POSSIBLE to have a 3G-capable chipset but have it deactivated in the phone.

You are so right in that 3G on the wrong phone is painful.
 
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PBz said:
I am not familiar with the FCC certification process and what has to be certified and when but I can say that it is POSSIBLE to have a 3G-capable chipset but have it deactivated in the phone.

You are so right in that 3G on the wrong phone is painful.
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If the device has hardware in it that will allow it to communicate on a certain frequency, that has to be disclosed whether it's activated or not.
 
Ebay has many listings of cheap phone covers from China. I did, however, see some interesting leather cases and a nice clear protective covering like I have for my PSP and ipod for about $7 (ship included). I think I'll order a case to protect it ahead of time so I won't feel forced into geting something very expensive in the store.
 
jhedges3 said:
The Engadget piece doesn't sound good. Typing is difficult and browsing is slow.
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I'm sure it'll be fine when you get used to it, just like predictive text. It even says on Apples iPhone Tour Video that eventually you progress to using two thumbs to type.

People don't like learning something new. That's why a few people I know won't do the right thing and buy a mac, I always say, "give it longer than half an hour."
 
Mitch1984 said:
I'm sure it'll be fine when you get used to it, just like predictive text. It even says on Apples iPhone Tour Video that eventually you progress to using two thumbs to type.

People don't like learning something new. That's why a few people I know won't do the right thing and buy a mac, I always say, "give it longer than half an hour."
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I think that's a common feeling about most people who have never used a Mac before - it's different, and they're afraid of mucking it up or just that it's new. I bet it'll be the same thing with the iPhone - people might want it, but will not give it good reviews at first because it's differeint!
 
Ted Witcher said:
Someone please explain why the obvious solution has not been implemented: the keyboard gets larger when you rotate to landscape mode. This has occurred to everybody but Apple, it seems.
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danvdr said:
Seriously good point.
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I have wondered the same since seeing the 1st typing demo.
Up until the past couple of weeks, I just assumed you could type in landscape mode. But having not seen this so much as mentioned by Apple (thta would have surely been hi-lighted in their ~20 min. demo), I guess that will not be a feature, yet - meaning, I imagine a Software Update could allow for this. If not, someone will offer a hack.

For me, the most exciting aspect of this device is that is is a had-held computer. I can even see Software Updates as soon as Saturday. :p

Neat.

Oops, PBz beat me to it. And with far less rambling.
Well done. ;)
 
JMax1 said:
I think that's a common feeling about most people who have never used a Mac before - it's different, and they're afraid of mucking it up or just that it's new. I bet it'll be the same thing with the iPhone - people might want it, but will not give it good reviews at first because it's differeint!
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That's it I'm self taught on Windows so it didn't take long teaching myself on OS 9 and then OS X shortly after, I just learnt by clicking this and that.

I'm sure there will be a few impatient people who try the keyboard for a little bit and then send there phones back.

People should give it a fortnight before doing that.
Looking forward to getting an iPhone in europe.
 
Here are my predictions:

1. I doubt there will be news of riots/fight/outbreaks etc. because people who shop at the Apple Store and want to see the iPhone are civil, middle-upper class consumers and are not thugs/working-class looking for launch night trouble at a Wal-Mart or Target. I've heard that BBQs will be taking place, however.

2. They will sell out of iPhones at both ATT and Apple Stores the first day. After that? I have no idea...

3. 60% of the mass will just want to demo it.
 
I'd really like to see a proper landscape text message mode for things such as iChat(or whatever client), as it works a lot better with two thumbs than one. But as PBz said, this is the beauty of a non-fixed keypad. People can knock Apple all they like about the lack of an actual keyboard, but the makers of Blackberries, Treos, Moto Q's and so forth can't come to your house and install improvements and upgrades on your fixed pads, can they?
 
Just out of curiosity, how many people type the same length emails from their phone as they do from their home computer. I have been using a BB for years and while occasionally I will hit novel-mode, I often find myself typing a brief and simple email to catch up, stay in touch or respond to a friend or associate. I have a BB for my personal phone and a separate BB for my work phone.

My point is that while the keyboard will take some getting used to and I am sure that anyone who really tires can do it. Seriously, just one of my thumbs covers HALF of my 8800's keyboard but I can type just fine on it. For me, the hardest thing to get used to is going to be the lack of any feeling or "response" from the keyboard but I am sure I will be ok.
 
Maccus Aurelius said:
I'd really like to see a proper landscape text message mode for things such as iChat(or whatever client), as it works a lot better with two thumbs than one. But as PBz said, this is the beauty of a non-fixed keypad. People can knock Apple all they like about the lack of an actual keyboard, but the makers of Blackberries, Treos, Moto Q's and so forth can't come to your house and install improvements and upgrades on your fixed pads, can they?
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There will always be people who knock the apple product, just because it is an apple product.

SPAA:
STOP PREJUDICE AGAINST APPLE!!!!
:apple:
 
Sounds True to me.

Engadget claims to have a 1st hand report: essentially keyboard hard to use, EDGE is slow.
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I use EDGE and I know it is slow, and I have a hard time using a keyboard that small with real buttons. I can't imagine the keyboard to be easy.
 
I just thought of something. If you're in a place that has Wi-Fi, how will the iPhone know whether to use the Wi-Fi or your data plan minutes? I've never had a cell phone so I don't know how it works.
 
No worries, Engaget, I have long thin fingers, and thumbs.

I guess we'll see about the touchscreen.
 
PBz said:
There are RUMORS that the chipset is already 3G capable and could be activated via a software release. I can tell you that this is POSSIBLE but have NO idea if it is true.

I have been using EDGE on my BB and it works just fine for me. Right now the issues associated with 3G are not worth it and I think Steves' strategy is a sound one. When 3G is ready and can provide the experience we expect, the iPhone will have it.
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Er... HELLO? 3G *is* ready. It's been around for a year, it works just fine, and you can stream video with it (don't try that with EDGE). Cingular/at&t has been shipping many phones with it.
One thing that is NOT going to provide the experience you'd expect, is trying to view YouTube videos over EDGE. If the chipset was 3G capable, they'd be bragging about it, so while it's technically possible that they'd temporarily disable the feature I don't exactly understand what purpose it would achieve.

EDGE was just fine until they started bragging about doing YouTube. Unless you're right and they can activate the 3G quickly, there are going to be a lot of pissed off customers.
 
guzhogi said:
I just thought of something. If you're in a place that has Wi-Fi, how will the iPhone know whether to use the Wi-Fi or your data plan minutes? I've never had a cell phone so I don't know how it works.
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It's supposed to switch to WiFi automatically when it sees/hears a signal
 
WTF? Am I the only MacRumors dude in the Tampa Bay area? How could such a bastion of hi-techiness have gone unnoticed?

Editors, please add us into the mix. Our breathless enthusiasm needs inclusion in the hysteria.

:D
 
How can apple stop someone waiting outside a store? Do they own the sidewalks/pavements too?
 
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