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iPhone Pre-Launch Hype Continues

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JMax1 said:
I think that's a common feeling about most people who have never used a Mac before - it's different, and they're afraid of mucking it up or just that it's new. I bet it'll be the same thing with the iPhone - people might want it, but will not give it good reviews at first because it's differeint!
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As a mac user back in the days of the Performa, then a windows switcher based on finances, then a happy switcher back to the much better Mac Platform, I have made it my personal quest to tell as many of my friends that are computer users why they should switch...yada yada yada... I know we all have...

My point is anyone (and I mean anyone who tries it for more than 30 minutes) will figure it out. One of my very best friends who has always been a pc guy (casual user to play games, check email, etc) finally broke down and bought a mac since he joined the army and is in officer training school. He called me to say "hey I bought a mac and I've already figured it out" All I can say is this is the typical story of all my friends and students who have now bought a mac after my sales pitch. :)

It's going to be the same way with the iphone. Sure it's not your clunky bb, or treo and you don't know "how to use it yet".... the lesson learned here is: Give it time oh ye of little faith.

Can't wait till Friday. I think I've finally convinced myself that it's okay to buy this first gen product. I just can't wait anymore. I need a new toy. Besides why else teach summer school if you can't buy something shiny with the money??? :D
 
where are the pricing plans?
I hope they disclose it first, because if they wait for the same day, it will be a nightmare.
I'll buy my iPhone a week later, sorry not camping in front an Apple store. I am not a fanatic nerd anyway.:D :eek:
 
As far as that city list goes in the OP ...

That's St. Louis, MO. "MI" is Michigan, "MO" is Missouri.
 
LordJohnWhorfin said:
Er... HELLO? 3G *is* ready. It's been around for a year, it works just fine, and you can stream video with it (don't try that with EDGE). Cingular/at&t has been shipping many phones with it.
One thing that is NOT going to provide the experience you'd expect, is trying to view YouTube videos over EDGE. If the chipset was 3G capable, they'd be bragging about it, so while it's technically possible that they'd temporarily disable the feature I don't exactly understand what purpose it would achieve.

EDGE was just fine until they started bragging about doing YouTube. Unless you're right and they can activate the 3G quickly, there are going to be a lot of pissed off customers.
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**Following is my personal opinion**

With all due respect, the 3G experience as a whole is not ready in that it is not a COMPLETELY positive experience relative to battery life and availability.
3G is not nearly as available with regards to the network footprint and as of today, 3G phones, in my OPINION, have battery issues.

I am only speaking for myself but I think I have a pretty good understanding of this as I work in the telecom industry.
 
Wow this is amazing!

I think armed guards is necessary. Remember what happened at the PS 3 launch at Best Buy and Circuit City? People actually got mugged for their PS 3. Anyways, I think people are going to be really disappointed with EDGE. I have a 3G RAZR V3xx (its an awesome phone, btw). I used to have an EDGE phone and it was pretty darn slow. I can't imagine doing anything useful with EDGE. True, its a lot better than GPRS, but still slow. Apple needs to come out with the 3G version of the iPhone soon (of course, that will piss off early adopters, all 10 million of them, if Apple sells out of the current production run).

Its a good thing the iPhone has Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi is in so many places now, that people in a large metro area (the most likely buyer of the iPhone) will not have a problem browsing the web. I, like everyone else, hope that Apple is keeping the voice/unlimited data plan relatively cheap. Nothing can kill a phone quicker than slow expensive data.
 
drewpage said:
I used to have an EDGE phone and it was pretty darn slow. I can't imagine doing anything useful with EDGE. True, its a lot better than GPRS, but still slow. Apple needs to come out with the 3G version of the iPhone soon (of course, that will piss off early adopters, all 10 million of them, if Apple sells out of the current production run).
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All of this EDGE talk is really us just spinning our wheels. We can comp all the phones and 3G vs EDGE we want but at the end of the day it comes down to the fact that the iPhone will be optimized to make general use of the internet sufficient for our needs or not. Web browsing on a phone has more variables than just the network. Only a few years ago, very few sites had "mobile" ready pages but everyday there are more and more of them. I have EDGE on my BB 8800 and while there are some sites that irk me, for the most part I can read my news, check my favorite sites and forums and do what I need to do on the web. If I have a slow site or a situation when the web doesn't work JUST like I would like it to, I realize I am on a phone and we are just at the beginning of getting this technology right. Patience.

I guess what this makes me think is that if someone can tell me a better phone that will give me the screen size, screen clarity, ease of use, an Ipod with music and video, a camera and the overall potential (via updates) that the iPhone does... There are a few but there ain't many!

On 3G not being in the phone, we have already discussed above that it is POSSIBLE that 3G will be a capability of the iPhone from day 1 but not "activated" until AT&T and Apple say they are ready.
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LordJohnWhorfin said:
Er... HELLO? 3G *is* ready. It's been around for a year, it works just fine, and you can stream video with it (don't try that with EDGE). Cingular/at&t has been shipping many phones with it.
One thing that is NOT going to provide the experience you'd expect, is trying to view YouTube videos over EDGE. If the chipset was 3G capable, they'd be bragging about it, so while it's technically possible that they'd temporarily disable the feature I don't exactly understand what purpose it would achieve.

EDGE was just fine until they started bragging about doing YouTube. Unless you're right and they can activate the 3G quickly, there are going to be a lot of pissed off customers.
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I have no idea about the following.
But is it possible AT&T has been building a nifty new network and plans to announce said network to coincide with the iPhone launch?
They have obviously had the time to know this was coming... plausible?
 
PBz said:
drewpage said:
On 3G not being in the phone, we have already discussed above that it is POSSIBLE that 3G will be a capability of the iPhone from day 1 but not "activated" until AT&T and Apple say they are ready.
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Wishful thinking, regardless if it's deactivated or not it has to be disclosed to the FCC. Somewhere in the iPhone keynote Job's brings up that they'll have it in there future phones. Not the iPhone. Also to add, there were speculations about having problems with battery life, and if that were the case 3G would only make it worse.

Like someone else had said already, how can you have such a media-centric phone without 3G? I'll either be waiting patiently for rev2 with mms/im client and 3G, or wait till the new iPod comes out.
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nateDEEZY said:
PBz said:
Wishful thinking, regardless if it's deactivated or not it has to be disclosed to the FCC. Somewhere in the iPhone keynote Job's brings up that they'll have it in there future phones. Not the iPhone. Also to add, there were speculations about having problems with battery life, and if that were the case 3G would only make it worse.

Like someone else had said already, how can you have such a media-centric phone without 3G? I'll either be waiting patiently for rev2 with mms/im client and 3G, or wait till the new iPod comes out.
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Yes it is wishful thinking to have a 3G capable chipset from Day 1 but it is also possible.

I think my media-centric iPhone will be just fine and if the "new and improved" 3G comes out and is that much better then one of my friends will be getting a GREAT deal on a launch iPhone....or maybe I will just keep it around for nostalgia..

From day 1 I will be able to talk on a cool-a$$ phone, watch my videos on about twice the screen of my video iPod, browse my music by album cover, take pictures and have at a minimum decent web speed outside of my home and blazing web speed at home.

I personally cannot get this week to go by fast enough.
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lazyrighteye said:
I have no idea about the following.
But is it possible AT&T has been building a nifty new network and plans to announce said network to coincide with the iPhone launch?
They have obviously had the time to know this was coming... plausible?
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There are **RUMORS** that the EDGE network will be seeing some improvements to support the iPhone experience..

Jobs isn't going to release one of the coolest gadgets in the last however many years and have one of its main attributes be a total flop.
 
i will run as fast as i can in my car to the memorial city :apple: store after work and buy my iphone, i cannot wait for this phone to come out. i have been counting down each day since jan. 9th.... Those damn data plans best be cheap, or there might be an uprise
 
Do people really browse the Internet with their cellphones? I understand getting an email or something quick like a movie time or something, but isn't the EDGE/3G debate a little overstated? Do people really expect/demand that their phone perform exactly as well as their desktop when it comes to surfing?
 
Ted Witcher said:
Do people really browse the Internet with their cellphones? I understand getting an email or something quick like a movie time or something, but isn't the EDGE/3G debate a little overstated? Do people really expect/demand that their phone perform exactly as well as their desktop when it comes to surfing?
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This is a perspective I have been trying to bring to the conversation. I think people DO browse the web on their phones and WANT a perfect experience but inherently understand that the mobile web experience will not match the experience of a home computer with a good broadband connection. We are getting there but we are not there quite yet. The thing is, the avaiability of wi-fi is growing just like 3G coverage is growing and Jobs knows this.

In ALL HONESTY if I was offered a 3G versus EDGE iPhone today I would take the EDGE iPhone as I have seen with my own eyes and get all the calls from my friends with 3G phones (I am the resident geek). VERY FEW are satisfied with the 3G experience as a whole. What good is a 3G connection when your phone (**cough Blackjack cough**) cannot make it a day on a single charge...

I use a BB 8800 on EDGE and it suffices for about 75% of what I want to do and I don't expect much more from a phone, even if it is a 3G phone when it comes to the web.
 
I just read an article about municipal wi-fi. Municipal wi-fi. Citywide coverage. Steve is making a gamble about which direction things are going and maybe he'll look like a genius in five years.
 
Ted Witcher said:
I just read an article about municipal wi-fi. Municipal wi-fi. Citywide coverage. Steve is making a gamble about which direction things are going and maybe he'll look like a genius in five years.
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I am just guessing out loud but I don't think, for the most part, muni wi-fi will be the answer. I think Steve knows that the locations where we spend the majority of our time.. work, home, bar, restaurants, etc will be offering decent wi-fi. I don't trust governments to provide squat. As devices like this become more prevalent businesses will catch on board and realize they HAVE to offer SOMETHING decent in order to attract clientele. I work in the Atlanta area and have several restaurants I can go to at lunch that provide free and decent wi-fi. I think this will grow exponentially. With that, I would say that I will have good broadband coverage pretty much anytime I have the time and ability to use it.

I think the goal is to look at people's habits, where they spend their time and focus on those areas first. So maybe it will be 2012 before I can get a good wi-fi signal at the top of Blood Mountain.. but do I really need a broadband signal up there anyways... The whole point of that, IMO, is to not be where all this jazz is.

Jobs knows what he is doing and he has more than a 3 year plan for this device.
 
when did the San Francisco Bay Area, CA become part of the south west??? pacific northwest, please!
 
I like how on the apple store locator, and probably for all locations, says that there are "no events scheduled" for the 29th.

Seems like they'll have their hands full of iPhones to be putting on other shows, eh?
 
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