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iPhone Predicted to Surpass Android Market Share by 2015
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You're looking for love in all the wrong places.
Have you tried snowboarding?
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Which is it then, "might" or "will"?
If this happens, it wouldn't surprise me a bit. A former colleague of mine recently switched from Android to iPhone, and when I asked him what he thought, he grinned widely and said, "it's soooo much better." I'm sure it pained him to say that because until then, he was a borderline Apple hater.
I meant in comparison to all other companies. Not saying Samsung is not profitable. What I'm saying is why would (or better yet should) Apple care about market share if they're making billions a qtr and own 70+% of the industry's profits? Do you not think Apple could grow marketshare by creating cheap phones? What would that accomplish other than lowering their profits? (which we're already seeing with products like the iPad mini).
Yes both companies are profitable that's not the point.
May I ask what you're arguing? Where/when did I write anything about what Apple cares about? Strawman? Meant to quote someone else?
And I never made any comment on whether Apple should or should not/could or could not grow their marketshare.
Again - strawman? Or are you replying to the wrong person?
Not sure you need to answer because I think we know who you are and what you're doing. You're pretty transparent.
Hmm
I think this is all a bit silly. The price points for Android are much more varied, i.e. cheaper, yet decent options exist. Android is only going to grow and get richer features and more stability as time goes by. Even if a cheaper iPhone is made, that won't solve the 'problem', as such a phone would lose the desirable image that best-of-breed iPhones now have.
Sooner or later most phones will be smart, all over the world and I just can't see a premium product like the iPhone dominating such a scenario, even though I can see them managing to make phones that are at least as good, if not better than their competitors.
A study commissioned because of current stock/earnings worries in Apple, perhaps? Isn't the accepted wisdom that Apple needs to make an iWatch or something like it?
I think this is all a bit silly. The price points for Android are much more varied, i.e. cheaper, yet decent options exist. Android is only going to grow and get richer features and more stability as time goes by. Even if a cheaper iPhone is made, that won't solve the 'problem', as such a phone would lose the desirable image that best-of-breed iPhones now have.
Sooner or later most phones will be smart, all over the world and I just can't see a premium product like the iPhone dominating such a scenario, even though I can see them managing to make phones that are at least as good, if not better than their competitors.
A study commissioned because of current stock/earnings worries in Apple, perhaps? Isn't the accepted wisdom that Apple needs to make an iWatch or something like it?
Am I missing something? Maybe the color's wrong on my MBP. There's no WebOS in '13 but '14 - '17 it has a larger share?
Nothing's been done with that for years. I'm not buying this prediction at all.
Too bad though, WebOS was awesome!
I think its hard right now for any phone developer to come out with anything revolutionary. Its more in small steps until another big shift happens again in the mobile industry.
I don't quite see it that way. I believe they are doing this to make it easier to share and transfer your data from your iPhone to your desktop seamless.
By have the same look and feel for many apps from your phone on the Mac desktop, you can start your work on your mobile device and finish it on your desktop and vice a versa.
I don't think they are doing this just because mobile devices are popular and are trying to do the same for desktops. I think they realize both are different platforms and preform different jobs.
I think they are trying to get both mobile and desktop to work well with each other.
So I think this actually adds to the harmonious integration your talking about.
Just because I don't like the iPhone doesn't mean I'm not an Apple user. I have an rMBP, an iPad, an iPod Nano and a bunch of airport extreme base stations. I have every right to post here. And unfortunately, Samsung doesn't pay me anything.
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I guess freedom of speech only applies to Apple zealots now?
the only thing that keeps me with an apple product is osx. But I'll probably get another ipad at some point. No way on an iphone until they do something revolutionary and get out of 2007
I probably did quote the wrong person, or just confused the argument. My point is simple and that is that if you say that as a consumer you shouldn't care about profits that a company makes, which I agree with, then you should care even less about marketshare of that company!
I don't understand why marketshare of a company would be more important than profit. Consumers really have no need to celebrate profits, but celebrating marketshare is even more ridiculous because what exactly is the consumer getting just because other people have the same phone as them?
Well, if you think about the Win vs Mac OS, you get compatibility if the OS you use is used by the majority. So it actually makes sense to care about marketshare. But with phones it's not exactly the same situation. Android has more marketshare but every important app seems to exist for both platforms atm. So right now, for me, the marketshare isn't that important. If we start seeing more and more apps being written for Android and key apps being skipped for iOS due to marketshare, then I'd worry.
It all matters how these profits are generated. Apple i of recent really trying to do this as ethically as they can. And people like this kind of thing. Phone companies on the other hand who entrap you into terrible phone plans etc etc are not acing very ethically and thus we don't care about them, a necessary evil being forced to do business with them.
As a consumer we like to choose the company that best suits us. But when every company in the field (all phone companies for example) are not so good, then we are unhappy. So when an ethically minded company is doing well we are happy.
If it promotes high quality products with lots of post purchase support then sure. But if it promotes ever higher and higher prices on the junk companies try to sell us (and as mindless sheep we still buy them) then this is a bad thing.
2015 ? Sorry, iPhone won't make that far.
iPhone 1, 3GS, 4S, Galaxy S3 > Galaxy Note 3.
and never looked back.
iPhone 1, 3GS, 4S, Galaxy S3 > Galaxy Note 3.
and never looked back.
currently 137
Most people pay for their apps on iOS. Some don't like the ads and others need the extra functionality.
I think your estimates are somewhat off. Lets not generalize too much...
I got Garmin half price on iTunes last Christmas. I also own a Nexus 4 but in my case my iPhone 5 is my main phone because of all the apps and games, most of which are ios exclusive.
I only use one app on iOS that I could not get for my Android and that is Tweetbot. I could live without that one app and I son't play games if any kind so those are not a problem.
Then I think you won't have anything to worry about, I don't doubt that iOS ecosystem will have a very good health
Nopes
I aint going to happen! Lower end will be cheaper android phones, middle android, windows and apple, higher end will be android, apple, windows/nokia in this order.
Unless Apple changes IOS completely, makes 5" iphone, lowers price of 2nd iphone, creates apple glasses and starts to wake up. and even then im not sure. Cant see the enthusiasm we used to see for apple products or for the iphone
I aint going to happen! Lower end will be cheaper android phones, middle android, windows and apple, higher end will be android, apple, windows/nokia in this order.
Unless Apple changes IOS completely, makes 5" iphone, lowers price of 2nd iphone, creates apple glasses and starts to wake up. and even then im not sure. Cant see the enthusiasm we used to see for apple products or for the iphone
As much as I love Apple, they gotta up their game... Android since 4.1 has caught up or even surpassed iOS on some levels. If Apple still wants to be relevant by end of the decade, they really gotta have an entire makeover....whether you like it or not, Android has now caught up to iOS. For those who still tout the old catch phrase "The experience on iOS still is better than Android", man after you tried out 4.2 on the Nexus 4...Its astounding how far Google has matured.
Good point about compatibility, but as you mentioned that too shouldn't be a problem. The android ecosystem is healthy and developers are NOT gonna stop developing for apple. And it's not like apples "lack" of marketshare is because their sales are suffering. They're selling more than most companies combined. Way too much money to be made in ios.
That's why I think profits are more important to a consumer than market share. That doesn't mean you organize a party and pop champagne when they announce earnings, it's akin to liking your favorite sports teams. They're making a bunch of money off you but your still are happy for their success because you know the product you're using has a long shelf life.
As I already wrote in the thread - I'm not the one who celebrates marketshare OR profits. As a user - I just care about the products I use and if they meet my needs and that there is support when I need it. I'm willing to bet that (in general) that's what most of the general public cares about. Outside of these forums - go ask people on the street if they care about how much money Apple is making or how much marketshare Android has. No - they'll talk about how they like their particular phone (or if they don't like it). $ or marketshare won't even come into the conversation.