Why don't you go back a read my post a little closer, and then make your necessary edits? I'm not going to take the time to address all the places where you either misconstrued, or plain misread what I said.
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iPhone Predicted to Surpass Android Market Share by 2015
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Why don't you go back a read my post a little closer, and then make your necessary edits? I'm not going to take the time to address all the places where you either misconstrued, or plain misread what I said.
But android isn't winning because it isn't for sale. Google may be winning with some manufacturers because they get to collect data, but some, like Amazon, just fork android and give google the finger.
It's definitely not in the anecdotes of one forum poster. Your post suffers from selection bias. This report is infinitely more useful for forecasting.
Oh, and iPhone sales are up. So I guess that's proof enough for you then?
Because the U.S. is where Apple has the most carrier penetration and also where the lowest percentage of people are still using feature phones. The feature phone numbers are decreasing rapidly worldwide. People upgrading from feature phones is where the overwhelming majority of Android's growth comes from. But that group is dwindling. Almost all of the Windows Mobile users are now gone and the Symbian users are fast disappearing as well.
As the article points out, far more people switch from Android to iPhone than from iPhone to Android. By a margin of 3 to 1. So Android has to find a way to prevent so many people from wanting to switch from Android to iPhone. The feature phone switchers Android relies on isn't going to last forever.
And again, the U.S. is where Apple has the most carrier penetration even though they only recently got on Verizon, the second largest carrier and only this month got on the 3rd largest carrier, T-Mobile. In a short period of time, the iPhone has already taken over smartphone sales on Verizon which was basically Android's home base here. And that is expected to happen on T-Mobile as well.
Basically, as the iPhone starts to get on carriers that only Android exists on currently throughout the world, the same thing happening in the U.S. is going to happen elsewhere. Big marketshare increases for the iPhone, and significant drops for Android.
I think each of you who has lashed out at my post should read the last paragraph a little closer. The one that starts "To each his own..."
All I was doing was saying why Android feels unfinished and unpolished to me. If you don't agree with, or share my experience that's your business. It doesn't make you wrong. It just makes your view different.
But I've been making a darn good living supporting users in IT for a long time, so I think I have a pretty good idea what the average user wants. There's a reason why almost every one of my users rarely misses an opportunity to complain to me about their Windows computer, and wishes my organization would let them use their Mac in the office (And boy, how I can't wait to accommodate them). It's the same reason why our users, given a BYOD choice in mobile devices have chosen iOS devices over Android at a roughly 9.5 to 1 ratio (1500 users).
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The article doesn't say that, the article assumes that according to a survey that will happen.
And that has nothing to do with the rest of the world where both Android and Apple has been in all the major carriers since 2008
And that has nothing to do with the rest of the world where both Android and Apple has been in all the major carriers since 2008.
USA has a very subsidized market, and the trend in the rest of the world is to drop those subsidies.
Do you have looked the market share trends in the rest of the world? How do you think that Apple can gain significant market share when there is no big subsidizing of handsets and all major carriers sell all the platforms?
Can you give just one example of your claims or are you just inventing histories?
No, you has been claiming that it is unusable, totally different thing. Can you give just one example or are you just inventing histories?
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Your useless anecdotal statements are just that. Useless anecdotal statements. How could you have a roughly 9.5 to 1 ratio when Apple's own sales numbers show they aren't saturating the computer market at that level? Do you just work at some strange place where the 1500 users just go against reality and the numbers that Apple itself provides. Dude you live in some weird mac fanboi bubble. Truly strange and filled with lies. Enjoy your day!
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I have the HTC One for just a few days now. Its an amazing phone. I still have an iPhone 5 as well but the UI of iOS is beginning to look dated compared to other options. The consumer has been asking for larger phones since the original Samsung note was a hit, and possibly before.
I have little doubt that Apple will continue to be successful but its time to listen to consumers and offer a non-springboard UI and larger screen phones.
can't really blame macrumors for putting fluff like this on the front page.
no revolutionary products from apple in sight, and their current lineup is flawed.
iMessage is a raging mess. iCloud is a mess. OSX has an identity problem. And Tim Cook's new financial moves peg the company as a standard slow growther... not much to report about!
(this makes me sound like a hater. I love apple. Just hope they can work on getting back on the right path).
no revolutionary products from apple in sight, and their current lineup is flawed.
iMessage is a raging mess. iCloud is a mess. OSX has an identity problem. And Tim Cook's new financial moves peg the company as a standard slow growther... not much to report about!
(this makes me sound like a hater. I love apple. Just hope they can work on getting back on the right path).
Agree with you on some points but not really sure why you think iMessage is a mess? iCloud is not dropbox - do you want it to be?
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Most people pay for their apps on iOS. Some don't like the ads and others need the extra functionality.
I think your estimates are somewhat off. Lets not generalize too much...
I got Garmin half price on iTunes last Christmas
. I also own a Nexus 4 but in my case my iPhone 5 is my main phone because of all the apps and games, most of which are ios exclusive.
Your useless anecdotal statements are just that. Useless anecdotal statements. How could you have a roughly 9.5 to 1 ratio when Apple's own sales numbers show they aren't saturating the computer market at that level? Do you just work at some strange place where the 1500 users just go against reality and the numbers that Apple itself provides. Dude you live in some weird mac fanboi bubble. Truly strange and filled with lies. Enjoy your day!
Wow, so you just continue to misread what I wrote. I said that iOS to Android usage amongst BYOD users at my company is 9.5 to 1. Not computers. Comprehend much?
And if you were to check the real statistics, such as Gartner they would show that to be the norm across most professional users of mobility devices.
And I was arguing for consistency within the argument.
That's why I said "Sure." All of those things that you mentioned were just like the post that I was disagreeing with.
Fair enough. I did as you suggested. I went back, not only to your post, but to the alpha post. After a thorough re-examination I have come to the conclusion that Apple's profit margins are not important to customers. They are only important to Apple... and the foreign banks in which they reside.
I.AM.JUST.KIDDING.
Wide Spread Panic is playing tonight. Heading there now. They inspired this thought:
Smoker1: My guy makes waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more profit from his stuff than your guy.
Smoker2: (puffs, puffs, puffs again) So.
Um..Don't see any revolutionary product from the Samsung Galaxy S4 over the S3. After taking a look at Windows 8, I'm perfectly fine with Mac OSX.
Early 2015 is when Google will announce their withdrawal from developing Android.
At that point, even though google will provide plenty of notice, android share will drop rapidly. Google will begin growing marketshare with chrome or some other os for their moto devices, blackberry and windows will have small market share gains and another new contender and/or android forks will come to pass. With an increased number of competitors it will be easier for iOS to move more units then what will be a lame duck is, android.
At that point, even though google will provide plenty of notice, android share will drop rapidly. Google will begin growing marketshare with chrome or some other os for their moto devices, blackberry and windows will have small market share gains and another new contender and/or android forks will come to pass. With an increased number of competitors it will be easier for iOS to move more units then what will be a lame duck is, android.
So you didn't write this: There's a reason why almost every one of my users rarely misses an opportunity to complain to me about their Windows computer, and wishes my organization would let them use their Mac in the office (And boy, how I can't wait to accommodate them).
You are a really bad liar. Take care. Have a good day.
Ditto, from an iPhone 1/2G, but either way...
...Nexus 4 is awesome.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/2...phones-outsell-feature-phones-for-first-time/
#contradiction !
...Nexus 4 is awesome.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2013/04/2...phones-outsell-feature-phones-for-first-time/
#contradiction !
Uh no, Apple is on very few carriers in the rest of the world compared to Android currently. It's not even close. Heck, Apple isn't even on the largest carrier in the largest market, China. One of Android's strengths is that it was easy for native manufacturers and carriers in each and every country to adopt it whereas Apple is only a single company that has to make carrier deals and distribution arrangements all around the world. And remember, in many cases these other manufacturers had been selling phones for decades. Their marketing and distribution systems had already been set up in these countries. They just switched from using Windows Mobile and Symbian to using Android as the OS for their phones.
Apple on the other hand is brand new to phones in these markets. As time goes on, Apple is creating these partnerships and deals and expanding around the world. The other manufacturers are basically already peaked out in this sense. So Apple will continue to take their marketshare.
These reports trying to separate out smartphone marketshare are largely misleading. There really has only ever been a mobile phone market. Apple is an upstart in the mobile phone market and ever since introducing the iPhone they have done nothing but grow their marketshare. More established phone companies like Samsung, LG, HTC, Motorola, etc. are fighting each other trying to upgrade each other's feature phone customers to smartphones. It's been like an internal battle with Samsung beating the other Android manufacturers to a pulp.
Meanwhile, the newcomer Apple has come in and stolen almost 10% of the pie and continuing to grow. Mind you, these same established phone manufacturers laughed when Jobs said they were hoping to one day own 2% of the mobile phone market. Not only do they have almost 5 times that but they also took a whopping 60-80% of the profits.
The future doesn't look very bright for Android if this keeps up as the easy pickings of feature phone owners dwindles. They are going to have to find some way to keep so many people from leaving Android to go to iPhone and figure out why so few people want to go to Android after owning an iPhone. The leaky bucket as described in the article is a pretty bad sign for the future of Android.
In one, two and three years we will see
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Your posts are always funny, totally out of reality but funny
