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That is truly amazing. I think offering older iPhones at lower prices was a very smart move by Apple. It allows them to operate in almost every segment of phone prices, while maintaining a good product. That's why they are selling so many of them.
 
I steered as many people away from Android as I possibly could at my Verizon store! Especially towards the affordable iPhone 4 in 8 GB, since it tops any 4G LTE phone that Verizon has at that price range.

4G is the only thing they can advertise at this point. Not only is it kinda useless (and actually is not faster at all in crowded areas), but a lot of people think their iPhone 4 is 4G :rolleyes:
 
I hear things like this from former Android owners who now have iPhones:

"Where's my GPS app?"

"I have to pay for Angry Birds?"

It's tough to explain...

Here's your explanation:

From Rovio:
"Previously, many people were experiencing problems in finding Angry Birds on Android Market.."

A politically correct way of saying: "Android users are too cheap to pay the 99 cents and we have to give it out for free ..." ;)


Turn-by-turn, I understand, but seriously, I sure hope none of those folks decided to switched back because of the 99 cents they have to pay for Angry Birds on iOS.

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Cook, Ive, and other Apple employees should be smiling big time at these numbers!

I can't recall the last time I saw an iPhone 4S Verizon-specific ad (did Verizon even run these?) Meanwhile, every time I turn around, I see a Verizon ad touting the latest Droid handset. Yet the iPhone accounts for more than half of all smartphone sales on Verizon? Amazing! This is big, big news!

I'm one of those that activated an iPhone 4 on VZW's network last year and sold my Droid X. I won't be going back as long as Apple continues to provide a superior product with polished app content.
 
I'm one of those people

I know quite a few Verizon fans who stuck with Verizon all these years. They've spent years buying Android phones and carrying around an iPod Touch at the same time. Now each and every one of them has an iPhone 4S instead.

I wonder how many of those people there are.

I have an Android phone and an Ipod touch. Love my ipod but hate the small screen. Some things I like better on the android, like dynamic resizing and the notification system, however the iphone is so much smoother. My first iphone will be the one with a bigger screen (if and when it is released).
 
Most of the Android growth is driven by cheap handsets in Asian markets: companies like Huawei, ZTC, Pantech.

I always think of past car sales when comparing the two OS's. The Ford Escort was the best selling car in America for many years running... I doubt you would find anyone to say it was the best car you could buy on the low end. It was the best car you could buy if you had little money to spend. The majority of Android phones are low end, there are some nice high end ones too.

The OS's are very close in functionality, just like an Escort and a Mercedes are very close in functionality.
 
Turn-by-turn, I understand, but seriously, I sure hope none of those folks decided to switched back because of the 99 cents they have to pay for Angry Birds on iOS.

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I hope not either. I just got my first iPhone (4S) having previously owned a Blackberry. I managed to skip Android altogether.

I solved the GPS problem by getting Motion-X on sale for $10. Plus I've bought tons of other apps as well. A couple dollars here or there is no bother if they are quality apps!
 
Does Android's turn by turn include the maps, or are they downloaded as you use it (basically you need internet connection to use it)? Cause personally I want my phone to function as a GPS independant of internet access (There have been times before I bought Navigon that I wanted to use the GPS and could not because we were out of any coverage area).

Personally, I'll take the iphone without turn by turn and just buy an app *that includes the maps* (like Navigon or TomTom) than pick android just cause it came with turn by turn.

Especially since, honestly, you can find free turn by turn on the iphone if you don't mind not having the maps (mapquest makes an app for that that's free). So really the only real difference is one you have to actually download the app, the other one already comes with one. But since you can have the same thing, just requires you look a little, I'll pick the one I like best for other reasons other than turn by turn. Cause you aren't missing it at all if you get the iphone long as you are willing to search for a navigation app.

So, honestly, I don't even understand the argument that you should pick android cause it comes with turn by turn. So what? You can get that free for the iPhone too.
 
I know quite a few Verizon fans who stuck with Verizon all these years. They've spent years buying Android phones and carrying around an iPod Touch at the same time. Now each and every one of them has an iPhone 4S instead.

I wonder how many of those people there are.

Before the iPhone came to Verizon Wireless I always had a non smartphone and an iPod touch in my pocket.
 
So big iPhone boost during a quarter where the 3 month delayed 4S was released (aka 3 extra months of pent up demand) and top it off you had people who were waiting for the next iPhone on Verizon to come out before upgrading to it. This along with a rather dead quarter for Android phones and people find these surprising.

Sorry but you have a lot of one time factors working in the iPhones favor here. Lets see how it holds up in the following months. Some how I do not see it holding as strong.
 
I am quite surprised at these numbers, not because the iPhone is the best, but because my friend that works at a verizon store is always told, push android, don't push iPhone. They get more money for pushing the iPhone so I am just shocked by these results
 
Does Android's turn by turn include the maps, or are they downloaded as you use it (basically you need internet connection to use it)? Cause personally I want my phone to function as a GPS independant of internet access (There have been times before I bought Navigon that I wanted to use the GPS and could not because we were out of any coverage area).

Personally, I'll take the iphone without turn by turn and just buy an app *that includes the maps* (like Navigon or TomTom) than pick android just cause it came with turn by turn.

Especially since, honestly, you can find free turn by turn on the iphone if you don't mind not having the maps (mapquest makes an app for that that's free). So really the only real difference is one you have to actually download the app, the other one already comes with one. But since you can have the same thing, just requires you look a little, I'll pick the one I like best for other reasons other than turn by turn. Cause you aren't missing it at all if you get the iphone long as you are willing to search for a navigation app.

So, honestly, I don't even understand the argument that you should pick android cause it comes with turn by turn. So what? You can get that free for the iPhone too.

You can download the Google Maps for offline usage you know: http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/07/go...download-maps-for-offline-viewing-hallelujah/
 
So big iPhone boost during a quarter where the 3 month delayed 4S was released (aka 3 extra months of pent up demand) and top it off you had people who were waiting for the next iPhone on Verizon to come out before upgrading to it. This along with a rather dead quarter for Android phones and people find these surprising.

Sorry but you have a lot of one time factors working in the iPhones favor here. Lets see how it holds up in the following months. Some how I do not see it holding as strong.

Lol there it is. Somehow the bionic, razr, and galaxy nexus are part of the "dead qtr" whereas up till yesterday android fanatics would be saying all three of these "wipe the floor with ios"...nice.
 
Lol there it is. Somehow the bionic, razr, and galaxy nexus are part of the "dead qtr" whereas up till yesterday android fanatics would be saying all three of these "wipe the floor with ios"...nice.

Nexus was released at the end of the quarter so it was really a non factor.

Bionic was long over due and really was a non issue as people sat on it knowing the Razer was coming and the Razer came out later in the middle of the quarter.

I figured people would try to bring up the Nexus but never mind the fact that it came out in the final few weeks so no time to become a big factor.
 
OMG but it has no turn-by-turn GPS!!!:eek:

Or something.

It does not. It's just a pent-up demand (given the fact that iPhone 4 for Verizon was released late into IP4 life cycle). And it's Apple. Nobody will be buying iPhones for the next three quarters waiting for iPhone 5 and Android will be outselling iPhones by a huge margin (remember Q3 data?). The overall trend is that iPhone will become about as marginal of an item as Macs. As they say, it will get "Samsunged".
 
So big iPhone boost during a quarter where the 3 month delayed 4S was released (aka 3 extra months of pent up demand) and top it off you had people who were waiting for the next iPhone on Verizon to come out before upgrading to it. This along with a rather dead quarter for Android phones and people find these surprising.

Sorry but you have a lot of one time factors working in the iPhones favor here. Lets see how it holds up in the following months. Some how I do not see it holding as strong.

This quarter and the next are two profoundly important data marks on the iOS/Android debate on Verizon.

While there is the constant shift from feature phones to smartphones, we are also in the process of having the customers who bought the first viable Android phones eligible for upgrades. Are these people going to stick with an Android phone or are they going to switch to iOS.

It's too early to tell, but it's fair to say that it might be pent up demand for a new iPhone and it might equally be people abandoning Fall 2010 Android phones and switching to iPhone.
 
I'm actually glad that I don't have an iPhone since it seems everyone else does. It seems to just be turning into a generic device for the masses. Glad I own something different and unique with my Droid RAZR.
 
It does not. It's just a pent-up demand (given the fact that iPhone 4 for Verizon was released late into IP4 life cycle). And it's Apple. Nobody will be buying iPhones for the next three quarters waiting for iPhone 5 and Android will be outselling iPhones by a huge margin (remember Q3 data?). The overall trend is that iPhone will become about as marginal of an item as Macs. As they say, it will get "Samsunged".

Until the iPhone 5 comes out and all those factors you just listed come into play again, and then suddenly, iPhone 5 sales will probably top even 4S sales! :eek:
 
Nexus was released at the end of the quarter so it was really a non factor.

Bionic was long over due and really was a non issue as people sat on it knowing the Razer was coming and the Razer came out later in the middle of the quarter.

I figured people would try to bring up the Nexus but never mind the fact that it came out in the final few weeks so no time to become a big factor.

All true facts, the difference is all three of those were boasted as being "iPhone killers", and with 2.3million 4G devices sold at Verizon, out of 10 available, I'd say none of them really fit the bill...of course now, the excuses are a-flowin'.

Of course you don't need 8 months to sell a good phone, as evidenced by the iPhone selling 4million opening weekend and 4 million Christmas day itself (when the Nexus, Bionic and RAZR were all available).

I understand the spin.

I'm actually glad that I don't have an iPhone since it seems everyone else does. It seems to just be turning into a generic device for the masses. Glad I own something different and unique with my Droid RAZR.

Indeed. You are maybe one of like 10,000. Can't get more unique then that.
 
So big iPhone boost during a quarter where the 3 month delayed 4S was released (aka 3 extra months of pent up demand) and top it off you had people who were waiting for the next iPhone on Verizon to come out before upgrading to it. This along with a rather dead quarter for Android phones and people find these surprising.

Sorry but you have a lot of one time factors working in the iPhones favor here. Lets see how it holds up in the following months. Some how I do not see it holding as strong.

Don't forget... Verizon has 108 million customers.

That's roughly 150,000 people who are ready to upgrade their phone every day.

We're not even one full year into the Verizon iPhone. Those who signed a contract prior to February 10, 2011 all have the option to get an iPhone this time around.

There are plenty more Verizon iPhone sales to come.
 
I'm actually glad that I don't have an iPhone since it seems everyone else does. It seems to just be turning into a generic device for the masses. Glad I own something different and unique with my Droid RAZR.

Glad I don't have an android OS since it seems everyone else does. Glad I own something different and unique with my iOS. ;)
 
Glad I don't have an android OS since it seems everyone else does. Glad I own something different and unique with my iOS. ;)

Yes, don't forget the 47% marketshare...somehow this means everyone doesn't have an Android...:rolleyes:
 
I can't recall the last time I saw an iPhone 4S Verizon-specific ad (did Verizon even run these?) Meanwhile, every time I turn around, I see a Verizon ad touting the latest Droid handset. Yet the iPhone accounts for more than half of all smartphone sales on Verizon? Amazing! This is big, big news!

I'm one of those that activated an iPhone 4 on VZW's network last year and sold my Droid X. I won't be going back as long as Apple continues to provide a superior product with polished app content.

iPhone or Droid? Verizon now advertises which phone is better:
http://obamapacman.com/2012/01/ipho...-dc-verizon-store-says-which-phone-is-better/

But yeah, most of the Verizon advertising budget seems to go to non-Apple phones.
 
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