iPhone Sales Decline 2016: Not Happy With iPhone 6s Purchase

freepomme

Suspended
Original poster
Oct 30, 2015
813
608
Boston, MA
We know that Apple's iPhone sales are in decline. In light of this, I decided to update the community as an expression of my distaste with the product I'm holding.

This is one of the first times I bought an iPhone that I really didn't like.

iOS 9 Gracelessly Deployed

Initial release was in unfinished state, and bricked many iPhones old and new. To this day, bugs still linger; with the last of the bugs still currently being hammered out all the way up to iOS 9.3. I've already lost track of the amount of updates between then and now.


Battery Became Smaller

If Apple asked all their customers if they would've liked to have less battery life they would've said no.

So why then, is that exactly what they delivered in the new iPhone 6s? The design, seemingly larger, the battery was sacrificed. It's not a good design. Apple releases iPhones made with seeming cheap materials that scratch on the first iteration, only to go back and make the phone thicker and add in a smaller battery to it.

It doesn't matter what they say about the processor. A smaller battery equals less battery no matter what. It's not like they're increasing battery life because they're not. The decreased it. And I can notice the difference. End of story.

3D Touch Has Not Worked

When someone is using your new iPhone and saying, "The old iPhone worked so much better than this one." Your phone, has problems.

I'm just writing this because I've had the phone for too long now and I can't return it. Sure, I would've liked to have kept my iPhone 6. But Apple usually demands switching up to the new iOS. Which makes the phone worse. I don't know when this company is going to get their act together but it needs to start some time because right now. I don't meant to cause an alarm, but what if Apple is heading the way of HP?

I don't need to mention the advantages and disadvantages of the competition. We've known other phones have better specs. We've known other phones have better performance. We've known other phones have better quality.

However, I still feel obligated to stick to Apple because there's nowhere else to turn, but the only thing I'm thinking of the whole time is waiting for the right moment to make a move.

I sold my Apple Watch. I can't bring myself to purchase a Mac, and I want to go back to the iPhone 6 because the 6s is beleaguered with questionable design choices that were at first scoffed at but returned to prove my suffering.

And before the first person says, just leave. I'm eager to jump off of the Apple bandwagon. I'm ready. No one told me to go out and purchase an iPhone 6s. You're right.

That's why Apple's iPhone sales are in decline.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Osamede

lchlch

macrumors 6502a
Mar 12, 2015
503
153
We know that Apple's iPhone sales are in decline. In light of this, I decided to update the community as an expression of my distaste with the product I'm holding.

This is one of the first times I bought an iPhone that I really didn't like.

iOS 9 Gracelessly Deployed

Initial release was in unfinished state, and bricked many iPhones old and new. To this day, bugs still linger; with the last of the bugs still currently being hammered out all the way up to iOS 9.3. I've already lost track of the amount of updates between then and now.


Battery Became Smaller

If Apple asked all their customers if they would've liked to have less battery life they would've said no.

So why then, is that exactly what they delivered in the new iPhone 6s? The design, seemingly larger, the battery was sacrificed. It's not a good design. Apple releases iPhones made with seeming cheap materials that scratch on the first iteration, only to go back and make the phone thicker and add in a smaller battery to it.

It doesn't matter what they say about the processor. A smaller battery equals less battery no matter what. It's not like they're increasing battery life because they're not. The decreased it. And I can notice the difference. End of story.

3D Touch Has Not Worked

When someone is using your new iPhone and saying, "The old iPhone worked so much better than this one." Your phone, has problems.

I'm just writing this because I've had the phone for too long now and I can't return it. Sure, I would've liked to have kept my iPhone 6. But Apple usually demands switching up to the new iOS. Which makes the phone worse. I don't know when this company is going to get their act together but it needs to start some time because right now. I don't meant to cause an alarm, but what if Apple is heading the way of HP?

I don't need to mention the advantages and disadvantages of the competition. We've known other phones have better specs. We've known other phones have better performance. We've known other phones have better quality.

However, I still feel obligated to stick to Apple because there's nowhere else to turn, but the only thing I'm thinking of the whole time is waiting for the right moment to make a move.

I sold my Apple Watch. I can't bring myself to purchase a Mac, and I want to go back to the iPhone 6 because the 6s is beleaguered with questionable design choices that were at first scoffed at but returned to prove my suffering.

And before the first person says, just leave. I'm eager to jump off of the Apple bandwagon. I'm ready. No one told me to go out and purchase an iPhone 6s. You're right.

That's why Apple's iPhone sales are in decline.
There's a decrease in sale growth. They still sold more iPhones than the previous quarter.

I believe you can adjust the sensitivity for 3D Touch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: yegon and imanidiot

I7guy

macrumors Core
Nov 30, 2013
23,306
11,465
Gotta be in it to win it
Sold 74 million phones last quarter with revenues of $75B. Ouch the lack of sales must be killing apple.:rolleyes:

But seriously your entitled not to like the product. 3D touch is pretty much a right-click and requires some muscle memory to learn properly. But your right growth has slowed but still in record territory.
 

Elisha

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2006
776
496
What has the sales decline got to do with your remorse as an owner?
Are we only purchasing products based on how well they sell now?
Anyway you seem to be making a lot of generalizations for example the battery life issue!
For those of us that haven't owned the 6, the S is still excellent battery wise based on whatever phones we came from!
I'm not a fan of iOS on the iPhones even though I love it on the iPad, but even I can praise what the phone actually excels in!
 

Paddle1

macrumors 68040
May 1, 2013
3,419
1,166
We know that Apple's iPhone sales are in decline. In light of this, I decided to update the community as an expression of my distaste with the product I'm holding.

This is one of the first times I bought an iPhone that I really didn't like.

iOS 9 Gracelessly Deployed

Initial release was in unfinished state, and bricked many iPhones old and new. To this day, bugs still linger; with the last of the bugs still currently being hammered out all the way up to iOS 9.3. I've already lost track of the amount of updates between then and now.


Battery Became Smaller

If Apple asked all their customers if they would've liked to have less battery life they would've said no.

So why then, is that exactly what they delivered in the new iPhone 6s? The design, seemingly larger, the battery was sacrificed. It's not a good design. Apple releases iPhones made with seeming cheap materials that scratch on the first iteration, only to go back and make the phone thicker and add in a smaller battery to it.

It doesn't matter what they say about the processor. A smaller battery equals less battery no matter what. It's not like they're increasing battery life because they're not. The decreased it. And I can notice the difference. End of story.

3D Touch Has Not Worked

When someone is using your new iPhone and saying, "The old iPhone worked so much better than this one." Your phone, has problems.

I'm just writing this because I've had the phone for too long now and I can't return it. Sure, I would've liked to have kept my iPhone 6. But Apple usually demands switching up to the new iOS. Which makes the phone worse. I don't know when this company is going to get their act together but it needs to start some time because right now. I don't meant to cause an alarm, but what if Apple is heading the way of HP?

I don't need to mention the advantages and disadvantages of the competition. We've known other phones have better specs. We've known other phones have better performance. We've known other phones have better quality.

However, I still feel obligated to stick to Apple because there's nowhere else to turn, but the only thing I'm thinking of the whole time is waiting for the right moment to make a move.

I sold my Apple Watch. I can't bring myself to purchase a Mac, and I want to go back to the iPhone 6 because the 6s is beleaguered with questionable design choices that were at first scoffed at but returned to prove my suffering.

And before the first person says, just leave. I'm eager to jump off of the Apple bandwagon. I'm ready. No one told me to go out and purchase an iPhone 6s. You're right.

That's why Apple's iPhone sales are in decline.
1. iOS 9 didn't brick "many iPhones".

2. "A smaller battery equals less battery no matter what." With that logic flip phones would have to be charged multiple times a day. Apple made tweaks to iOS 9 and the A9 so the battery should last just as long as the 6, despite the smaller battery.

3. You can turn off 3D Touch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Simche

dark_knight177

macrumors regular
Aug 22, 2010
220
323
Sold 74 million phones last quarter with revenues of $75B. Ouch the lack of sales must be killing apple.:rolleyes:

But seriously your entitled not to like the product. 3D touch is pretty much a right-click and requires some muscle memory to learn properly. But your right growth has slowed but still in record territory.
You know it gets old very fast, when you bring up iPhone sales numbers every time a user criticizes Apple products. Like you have no better argument than that?
[doublepost=1455072855][/doublepost]
We know that Apple's iPhone sales are in decline. In light of this, I decided to update the community as an expression of my distaste with the product I'm holding.

This is one of the first times I bought an iPhone that I really didn't like.

iOS 9 Gracelessly Deployed

Initial release was in unfinished state, and bricked many iPhones old and new. To this day, bugs still linger; with the last of the bugs still currently being hammered out all the way up to iOS 9.3. I've already lost track of the amount of updates between then and now.


Battery Became Smaller

If Apple asked all their customers if they would've liked to have less battery life they would've said no.

So why then, is that exactly what they delivered in the new iPhone 6s? The design, seemingly larger, the battery was sacrificed. It's not a good design. Apple releases iPhones made with seeming cheap materials that scratch on the first iteration, only to go back and make the phone thicker and add in a smaller battery to it.

It doesn't matter what they say about the processor. A smaller battery equals less battery no matter what. It's not like they're increasing battery life because they're not. The decreased it. And I can notice the difference. End of story.

3D Touch Has Not Worked

When someone is using your new iPhone and saying, "The old iPhone worked so much better than this one." Your phone, has problems.

I'm just writing this because I've had the phone for too long now and I can't return it. Sure, I would've liked to have kept my iPhone 6. But Apple usually demands switching up to the new iOS. Which makes the phone worse. I don't know when this company is going to get their act together but it needs to start some time because right now. I don't meant to cause an alarm, but what if Apple is heading the way of HP?

I don't need to mention the advantages and disadvantages of the competition. We've known other phones have better specs. We've known other phones have better performance. We've known other phones have better quality.

However, I still feel obligated to stick to Apple because there's nowhere else to turn, but the only thing I'm thinking of the whole time is waiting for the right moment to make a move.

I sold my Apple Watch. I can't bring myself to purchase a Mac, and I want to go back to the iPhone 6 because the 6s is beleaguered with questionable design choices that were at first scoffed at but returned to prove my suffering.

And before the first person says, just leave. I'm eager to jump off of the Apple bandwagon. I'm ready. No one told me to go out and purchase an iPhone 6s. You're right.

That's why Apple's iPhone sales are in decline.
I completely agree with everything you said. I used to love Apple and used to be the biggest Apple fan, I even switched my whole family to Apple products. However all that changed with deteriorating software quality, poor design and the horrible iOS 9 which made my iPhone 6 Plus unusable.

Apple has now become what Microsoft used to be, complacent corporation which releases buggy and unusable software and doesn't give two hoots about it's users. I really really hate Apple now.
 

Applefan4

macrumors 6502
May 6, 2013
482
457
I'm happy with the 6S. It's a performance beast and 3D Touch is useful, though I admit not game changing like Touch ID. Also the fact that I can actually do some work on the phone without losing everything to reloading thanks to pitiful 1GB of ram my 6+ had, makes me happy
 
  • Like
Reactions: yegon and nj1266

dark_knight177

macrumors regular
Aug 22, 2010
220
323
Here are my issues:

  1. iCloud Photo Library is a buggy and unreliable mess and no way to make Google Photos as default.
  2. Mail app on my mac doesn't work with Gmail, just not receiving new messages, even tried restoring mac
  3. Siri is a joke and there's no way to make Google now the default voice assistant.
  4. No way to copy files from your PC to your iPhone.
  5. It takes 25 steps to copy music from your PC to your iPhone, including dragging files to iTunes choosing which songs to sync and etc. Why not just let us drag and drop just like any other phone? Oh right, Apple wants you to pay $9.99 for Apple Music.
  6. With the release of Apple Music, your own music library feels like a second class citizen inside iOS music app. AND Apple doesn't let you use an alternative music app as default.
  7. iOS 9 made all my Apple gear obsolete, to the point where it lags like an Android. The only exception is the iPhone 6S, and that's by design because Apple wants you to buy their latest tech.

My issue with Apple is this: Apple is horrible at services, at least let us use services which are decent, but they don't let you. Apple wants you to use their buggy software and won't let you set any app as default instead of it's own.
 
  • Like
Reactions: determined09

lagwagon

Suspended
Oct 12, 2014
3,899
2,759
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
It takes 25 steps to copy music from your PC to your iPhone, including dragging files to iTunes choosing which songs to sync and etc. Why not just let us drag and drop just like any other phone? Oh right, Apple wants you to pay $9.99 for Apple Music.
So Apple wanted you to pay $9.99 for Apple Music when the only device was the iPod when Apple Music wasn't even a thing over a decade ago? Because the method of syncing music to your Apple device has been the same since the iPod.

Also I think there are programs you can use to just drag and drop music. I believe this website mentioned one not too long ago in one of the front page articles.
 

freepomme

Suspended
Original poster
Oct 30, 2015
813
608
Boston, MA
Sold 74 million phones last quarter with revenues of $75B. Ouch the lack of sales must be killing apple.:rolleyes:

But seriously your entitled not to like the product. 3D touch is pretty much a right-click and requires some muscle memory to learn properly. But your right growth has slowed but still in record territory.
Actually, 3D Touch in its current form inhibits regular use of the phone in some instances. It's not like it's perfect now and they wouldn't improve upon it, so don't try to act like it is.

So Apple wanted you to pay $9.99 for Apple Music when the only device was the iPod when Apple Music wasn't even a thing over a decade ago? Because the method of syncing music to your Apple device has been the same since the iPod.

Also I think there are programs you can use to just drag and drop music. I believe this website mentioned one not too long ago in one of the front page articles.
That gets tiring. And you know what? People are going to stop doing it. Because they don't have the time. And once you get a taste of not using iTunes, you'll never go back.

Here are my issues:

  1. iCloud Photo Library is a buggy and unreliable mess and no way to make Google Photos as default.
  2. Mail app on my mac doesn't work with Gmail, just not receiving new messages, even tried restoring mac
  3. Siri is a joke and there's no way to make Google now the default voice assistant.
  4. No way to copy files from your PC to your iPhone.
  5. It takes 25 steps to copy music from your PC to your iPhone, including dragging files to iTunes choosing which songs to sync and etc. Why not just let us drag and drop just like any other phone? Oh right, Apple wants you to pay $9.99 for Apple Music.
  6. With the release of Apple Music, your own music library feels like a second class citizen inside iOS music app. AND Apple doesn't let you use an alternative music app as default.
  7. iOS 9 made all my Apple gear obsolete, to the point where it lags like an Android. The only exception is the iPhone 6S, and that's by design because Apple wants you to buy their latest tech.

My issue with Apple is this: Apple is horrible at services, at least let us use services which are decent, but they don't let you. Apple wants you to use their buggy software and won't let you set any app as default instead of it's own.
1. I turned it off. Apple is only copying Dropbox anyway. Why don't you just use the real thing. It works like a charm. I don't know what's wrong with iCloud. I don't even think Apple knows.

2. Oh! We are so alike. After I downloaded Spark, I stopped using Apple mail for good! It was just natural. It hasn't been updated since it seems like 1999. Or whenever the first version was.

3. And you know what, on my iPhone 6s, Siri doesn't even come up half the time. Might be related to 3D Touch getting in the way. But a joke, Siri remains. That's right.

4. Correct.

5. 6. 7. That's true. It's natural.
 
Last edited:

AustinIllini

macrumors demi-goddess
Oct 20, 2011
12,031
9,219
Austin, TX
Actually, 3D Touch in its current form inhibits regular use of the phone in some instances. It's not like it's perfect now and they wouldn't improve upon it, so don't try to act like it is.


That gets tiring. And you know what? People are going to stop doing it. Because they don't have the time. And once you get a taste of not using iTunes, you'll never go back.
Care to elaborate on how 3D touch inhibits phone use? I haven't had a problem.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Skika and Lancetx

lagwagon

Suspended
Oct 12, 2014
3,899
2,759
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Actually, 3D Touch in its current form inhibits regular use of the phone in some instances. It's not like it's perfect now and they wouldn't improve upon it, so don't try to act like it is.
What regular use does 3D Touch inhibit? Besides if you don't like it, it IS an option in Settings you can turn off.

3D Touch isn't going to disappear, it's pretty much a part of standard screen input methods from now on. Even Samsung is including it in their phones at the end of the month when they announce the S7/S7 Edge and I'm sure other Android phones will be as well as the year goes on.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors demi-goddess
Oct 20, 2011
12,031
9,219
Austin, TX
What regular use does 3D Touch inhibit? Besides if you don't like it, it IS an option in Settings you can turn off.

3D Touch isn't going to disappear, it's pretty much a part of standard screen input methods from now on. Even Samsung is including it in their phones at the end of the month when they announce the S7/S7 Edge and I'm sure other Android phones will be as well as the year goes on.
3D touch is great! I was worried it would just be a dumb right click context menu. It's not at all! It actually provides legitimate quick actions and other OS functions like multitasking. I'll admit, I was completely wrong about it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Skika

freepomme

Suspended
Original poster
Oct 30, 2015
813
608
Boston, MA
Care to elaborate on how 3D touch inhibits phone use? I haven't had a problem.
People already have on this very forum. It's not a secret by now. Don't you have an iPhone.

With 3D Touch, sometimes regular taps don't register. So you end up tapping harder on the screen out of frustration.

Better just to turn 3D Touch off altogether. It's a time waster.

Now, before you flat out deny that it's ever happened to you, as is often the case; I'm just saying, it's already on the forums.

The best word to describe the iPhone right now? Quirky. Verrrrrry quirky.

You never know when something is going to work or not. And as has been documented on my phone calls with Apple Support, I'm tired of refreshing the RAM. Closing apps. Deleting apps. Reinstalling. Redownloading from the cloud.

You know how many times I had to wipe my iPhone to restore it since the iPhone 6?

Probably 20 times or more. But I'm not doing it anymore.
 
Last edited:

AustinIllini

macrumors demi-goddess
Oct 20, 2011
12,031
9,219
Austin, TX
People already have on this very forum. It's not a secret by now. Don't you have an iPhone.

With 3D Touch, sometimes regular taps don't register.
So you end up tapping harder on the screen out of frustration.

Better just to turn 3D Touch off altogether. It's a time waster.
I have never had an iPhone, and I have had too many, where regular taps don't register. Ever. This is news to me.
 

lagwagon

Suspended
Oct 12, 2014
3,899
2,759
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
3D touch is great! I was worried it would just be a dumb right click context menu. It's not at all! It actually provides legitimate quick actions and other OS functions like multitasking. I'll admit, I was completely wrong about it.
I think it's great also. It's more ways to interact with the screen and content.

Since it may not come to iPads soon (especially the Pro) because it currently isn't possible to implement it in the larger screens. (Plus iPad screens are much different in construction, they are laminated.) I was hoping they could allow the Apple Pencil to enable 3D Touch like features (like Peek and Pop and app shortcuts) since it has pressure sensors built in.
 

freepomme

Suspended
Original poster
Oct 30, 2015
813
608
Boston, MA
I have never had an iPhone, and I have had too many, where regular taps don't register. Ever. This is news to me.
I warned about this. But my response is just a passing mention. This forum is too big for me to have to link to the topics that's probably right under this one.

I'm just putting it out there.

Too many problems in iOS 9 don't actually get fixed because they deny that they're there. And that's why iOS is currently quirky. We did not need to update to this.

And I'm just talking about from a user perspective I'm not a security person. If someone asked me why I like Apple, it wouldn't be the same response it would've been in those golden years.
When you're looking forward to the new

iPhone only because you can't wait to get rid of the previous iPhone. I don't know. It's iPhone fatigue.
 
Last edited:

lagwagon

Suspended
Oct 12, 2014
3,899
2,759
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
I warned about this. But my response is just a passing mention. This forum is too big for me to have to link to the topics that's probably right under this one.

I'm just putting it out there.
The ONLY time I've seen anyone mention that 3D Touch messed with how they normally use their phone was the very first couple of weeks when the 6s/6s+ was released and no one knew how it worked. I'm pretty sure they have all moved on and delt with the very, very small learning curve by now. The learning curve being people weren't used to a phone that could actually sense pressure (people were used to tapping with any amount of force with no reaction to it. Once it could, it threw people off only in the very beginning for a short amount of time to adjust.)
 

I7guy

macrumors Core
Nov 30, 2013
23,306
11,465
Gotta be in it to win it
I warned about this. But my response is just a passing mention. This forum is too big for me to have to link to the topics that's probably right under this one.

I'm just putting it out there.

Too many problems in iOS 9 don't actually get fixed because they deny that they're there. And that's why iOS is currently quirky. We did not need to update to this.

And I'm just talking about from a user perspective I'm not a security person. If someone asked me why I like Apple, it wouldn't be the same response it would've been in those golden years.
Out of the millions of 6s sold, there are varied opinions. I find the trackpad function extremely useful. It's certainly your perogative not to like it, but that doesn't take away anything from it. As been mentioned turn it off.

And what would an apple "bashing" post be without the "golden years" of the past ceo.o_O
 

freepomme

Suspended
Original poster
Oct 30, 2015
813
608
Boston, MA
The ONLY time I've seen anyone mention that 3D Touch messed with how they normally use their phone was the very first couple of weeks when the 6s/6s+ was released and no one knew how it worked. I'm pretty sure they have all moved on and delt with the very, very small learning curve by now. The learning curve being people weren't used to a phone that could actually sense pressure (people were used to tapping with any amount of force with no reaction to it. Once it could, it threw people off only in the very beginning for a short amount of time to adjust.)
Exactly. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's quirky.

And I don't like complaining but I would rather call this constructive criticsm.

What are they going to do about popups? I mean iOS is being targeted by using what they know Apple won't do. I feel like if you have an iPhone you're going to be targeted and jumped into the App Store. Popups were so 1999, hut with the iPhone there's been a resurgence.

It's not any less annoying now that it's on a phone.

The same things people say about the iPhone for years are the same things Apple eventually brings out way later down the line.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.