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iPhone SDK in Beta Only? More 3G iPhone Predictions...
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No... this does suck, the phone has been out since June 07 and not until recently did Apple get their heads out of their asses to let this phone be that much more amazing. I'm sure the iPhone has been planned and tested for years already, remember iphone.org?
Apple I hate how you rip off the consumer by never doing things 100% the first time. You leave stuff out that you've already perfected so we have to buy another product (for example, Nike+ users need a Nano instead of their FLASH iPhone). Why on Earth did the Photo iPod not have video playback?
Flash is pretty big on the internet. I've had flash of my WM5 & 6 phone for a couple years.
Anyone else still feel like they're still beta-testing for Apple at a hefty price-tag?
Apple I hate how you rip off the consumer by never doing things 100% the first time. You leave stuff out that you've already perfected so we have to buy another product (for example, Nike+ users need a Nano instead of their FLASH iPhone). Why on Earth did the Photo iPod not have video playback?
Flash is pretty big on the internet. I've had flash of my WM5 & 6 phone for a couple years.
Anyone else still feel like they're still beta-testing for Apple at a hefty price-tag?
Let's hope that the SDK won't only be for the next gen 3G iPhone and the next gen Touch.
It isn't totally without precedent, after all. It looks like if we ever do get Java 6 for OS X, it will be 64 bit only. For reference, Java 6 was released for Windows and Linux in December 2006, and 32 bit Macs were sold until recently (don't have an exact date.)
I'm guessing they're just stretched too thin. Even things like the MacBook Air presumably cannibalize *some* level of resources from other internal teams. For example, the guys who work on OS X drivers, the QA team, marketing, upper management, etc. It isn't like there is a MacBook Air team, iPod Touch team, etc. and those are the only people in the organization that ever dedicate time on the new product.
It isn't totally without precedent, after all. It looks like if we ever do get Java 6 for OS X, it will be 64 bit only. For reference, Java 6 was released for Windows and Linux in December 2006, and 32 bit Macs were sold until recently (don't have an exact date.)
I'm guessing they're just stretched too thin. Even things like the MacBook Air presumably cannibalize *some* level of resources from other internal teams. For example, the guys who work on OS X drivers, the QA team, marketing, upper management, etc. It isn't like there is a MacBook Air team, iPod Touch team, etc. and those are the only people in the organization that ever dedicate time on the new product.
flash?
that dog makes a full featured desktop work, and it gets more bloated and pathetic all the time. if i can watch movies on my old school video ipod but my mini chokes on video in flash from msnbc or abc, something is deeply wrong with flash.
please in the name of all that is good leave flash OFF my iPhone....
Funny, you hear the same things on the Windows side for... Quicktime. The issue with flash on the mac side is really programming, on the windows side Flash is barely a blip in terms of system resources.
I for one WANT flash. Why? Because I want "the internet" not the "baby internet."
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Maybe there being a roadmap has something to do with Intel's Silverthorne chip??
Will developers have an SDK/environment where it's easy for them to convert their apps so they work on a silverthorne Apple device?
That's assuming Apple use that chip soon, they might not.
Will developers have an SDK/environment where it's easy for them to convert their apps so they work on a silverthorne Apple device?
That's assuming Apple use that chip soon, they might not.
well... if they actually were like em then they would have released it and later in june wuda released the SDK SP1.
mmph!!
That is a truly frightening though, and aside from the MASSIVE outcry that would ensue, there would be quite alot of money spent on new ipods (I might... might).
HOWEVER, I seriously doubt this for 3 reasons. Iphone customers, rather than ipod touch customers, pay monthly for the privilege, and keeping them happy and up to date is important in demonstrating product support for the iphone and its expensive 2 year contracts. Whatever they offer on the iphone realistically should work on the ipod (although, yes, it took until January to get most of the apps this time around).
Secondly, if they are offering a pay model, then they'll make money from ipod owners as well as iphone owners. If its free software mostly, then they'll increase the value of the ipod touch without spending much at all.
Finally, they have shown a shift towards making ipods a "mobile computing platform", and they should bring back the older ipod touches into that mix.
Yes, it is frightening given Apples propensity to make products obsolete on a yearly basis, and they could justify the difference by claiming that the iphones 600 MHz processor could handle SDK apps while the 400 MHz processor on the touch couldn't (give me a break).
It also leaves open the question about how, other than storage increases, they improve the ipod touch year after year. They could go for the model they have had in the past with storage upgrades and unique new features, or could focus on storage (duh) and software for ALL ipod touches, with perhaps some extra goodies thrown in.
Mayb its just me trying to be optimistic (for once) but it doesn't make sense that they would go through all this just to say that it isn't coming now. And won't be here till June. They knew how hard it would be and they said end of February. They ran into a few kinks and now they have to wait another week. Not a huge deal. Hopefully they will give it to developers then. Release a new app or 2. Make it more corporation friendly, and the apps start rolling out a week or too later, with some earlier ones out sooner. I hope I don't have to wait till June.
Of course they are going after RIM! Its going to be a knockdown, drag out, smackdown of the century!
.....In terms of the tech industry I mean.
Whatever the state of the SDK is, Apple MUST be releasing something next thursday.
If they were just postponing the SDK, or announcing future software, even if that had specifics of what that software was, then they wouldn't have pushed the announcement out of February. They already showed they are behind, and if they were so behind (i.e. June) it would have been smart to announce weeks ago and make it seem early.
It could be some unique iphone/ipod stuff, or a few select applications, or something else, but if there is no new software next week (or in the immediate days following), even if it just to enterprise customers, then they will have let people down twice in two weeks when once would have done the same.
If they were just postponing the SDK, or announcing future software, even if that had specifics of what that software was, then they wouldn't have pushed the announcement out of February. They already showed they are behind, and if they were so behind (i.e. June) it would have been smart to announce weeks ago and make it seem early.
It could be some unique iphone/ipod stuff, or a few select applications, or something else, but if there is no new software next week (or in the immediate days following), even if it just to enterprise customers, then they will have let people down twice in two weeks when once would have done the same.
If it seems a frightening thought, it's more a completely mistaken one. I suppose it's easy for people to misunderstand the difference between a self-contained product like the iPod and a platform like the iPhone, but the truth is that Apple has never made platform products obsolete on anywhere close to a yearly basis.
I know it's popular around here to buy the latest release of the MacBook Pro all the time, but don't forget the tons of people who are happily installing Leopard on their G4 iBooks. It makes no sense -- and I mean ZERO sense -- to put together the SDK and release it exclusively for a product that hasn't even been released yet. The speed of Apple releases notwithstanding, they have never done anything REMOTELY like that.
Apparently the release of a mail client for the iPod Touch that cost a few bucks has led some people here to trick themselves into thinking that every new development from Apple will require new hardware. I know a lot of people were miffed about that decision, but it just doesn't justify this kind of silly speculation.
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I don't know why , but edge hauls ass today!
Does anyone one why?
I don't know why , but edge hauls ass today!
Does anyone one why?
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So, you really hope that they find a way to let you out of your car when you've locked yourself inside along with your keys?
The point of this is to make jailbreak unnecessary, and give the Dev team a way to make real apps.
RIP jailbreak.
I think we need to remember that this SDK will allow developers access to create applications for one of the most advanced technology platforms on the planet - and one that will by the end of 2008 be ;
1) In it's second generation - i.e Touch 2 and Iphone 2 will be shipping
2) Accompanied by i) a 7"x5" 'Super Touch Iphone Air hybrid' and ii) a touch nano
3) Is the future of Apple's iPod and computing divisions.
4) a platform integrating into a digital ecosystem with macs, Apple TV's and iTunes, and third-party stores like starbucks.
and last but not least :
5) More than likely on it's way to 100 million active 'tech-savvy' users
You can be sure this SDK will be something pretty big...Apple has to make sure it's good - Let's chill a little and just enjoy the fact that some seriously good stuff is coming!
1) In it's second generation - i.e Touch 2 and Iphone 2 will be shipping
2) Accompanied by i) a 7"x5" 'Super Touch Iphone Air hybrid' and ii) a touch nano
3) Is the future of Apple's iPod and computing divisions.
4) a platform integrating into a digital ecosystem with macs, Apple TV's and iTunes, and third-party stores like starbucks.
and last but not least :
5) More than likely on it's way to 100 million active 'tech-savvy' users
You can be sure this SDK will be something pretty big...Apple has to make sure it's good - Let's chill a little and just enjoy the fact that some seriously good stuff is coming!
Oh please.
The cleverness required to throw together a simple jailbreak model, while admirable, is NOTHING compared to the logistics needed to design, develop, deploy, and support (stir and repeat) an SDK for a product of this size.
As someone already noted, its likely that this 'simple SDK' probably touches at least 5 other major Apple platforms (e.g. iTunes, future mobile platform development, etc).
Any major software release (beyone a quick fix patch) happens on this scale at intervals of MAYBE 2x/year.
Hackers have the luxury of throwing stuff out there. Major corporations with millions of affected users do not.
...so, announce a (delayed) meeting on Mar 6 to discuss the Roadmap for the platform... including the SDK
...make everyone think that Apple is screwed up, missed another deadline...
...then release the SDK on Feb 29, honoring the original commitment...
...get lots of attention focused on the Mar 6 meeting...
...more bang for the buck!
Diabolical! I like it!
Well... not entirely true. Lots of Java developers have 32 bit macs that aren't very old at all, and can now no longer use the machine to develop for the latest and greatest because there is only a 64-bit beta of Java 6. So these guys (myself included) have a choice- buy a new 64-bit Mac, or buy something else, like an Dell laptop with Ubutu- thus gaining a great development machine but losing all the other great things about OS X.
I suspect that a 64 bit Mac bought today will be good for a while though. I wouldn't be surprised if 10.6 ends up being Intel-only, and 10.7 drops 32 bit support.
Now that the iPhone/iTouch is more of a computer than an iPod, it will be interesting to see how long a given model stays compatible with new firmware, software, accessories, etc.
Software development is driven by requirements. That's not just "boy, I'd sure like to have..." wish-listing, but formal, complicated, rigorous processes involving WAY more than technical issues.
So halfway into SDK project, sales meets with Steve and says, you know, our one-year plan last year assumed we wouldn't be able to crack corporate until '09. But numbers now show that if we have Exchange support ready by April, we really can boost revenue by $xxxxxxx.00".
That's real world. Project now loops back and finds that an extra month is required, Gann charts, team adjustments.. blah blah.
Until you work in large software organizations, its impossible to really get the complexity of the process.