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iPhone SDK in Beta Only? More 3G iPhone Predictions...
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Operative words: "...in developers' hands".
he didn't say 'in the hands of every bedroom coder'.
Seems pretty clear that a big hunk of the serious development community already has it and is producing code.
As I'm in the middle of dealing with some major issues with Java 1.6, you can color me unimpressed
Leopard goes all the way back to 867Mhz G4s, which is something like a 2002 timeframe. Apple was selling G5 systems through 2005, so based on the same time scale you'd expect the G5 to be supported by new OS releases until 2011. That suggests there's plenty of time for one more PowerPC-compatible release, though I guess nobody knows for sure. 32-bit-only Intel systems were sold for only a brief period, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if 32-bit Intel and PowerPC were dropped at the same time.
Just came back from a large gathering and virtually everyone there had a iPhone.
Not one knew the SDK was delayed or even what an SDK was.
I would say that the vast majority of iPhone owners don't know or care.
Half are still learning the basic features.
That, my cloistered friends, is the real world,
Not one knew the SDK was delayed or even what an SDK was.
I would say that the vast majority of iPhone owners don't know or care.
Half are still learning the basic features.
That, my cloistered friends, is the real world,
No offense (well, yeah... offense meant) but that's just ignorant.
Beyond the 'poor me... Apple hates us' diatribe, please advise of any product or software that has 'done things 100% the first time'.
Do you WANT(for example) the fun and games provided by ActiveX malware as well? That's part of the 'grown-up' internet as well.
If grown-up internet means enormous, talking, Flash-based ads on every page I hit, then no thanks... I'll wait for Apple to force H.264
No the iPhone and Mac satisfy me and I love them. But those things Apple does are not right. Thats all. Didnt say I hate macs and ipwns.
Rumors have been floating around for awhile now that some developers already got a "primitive" version of the SDK - so i hardly doubt (assuming this is true) that whatever they release next week will be THAT primitive. There have also been rumors that its been ready for awhile now but they needed to get patents before they could release it. so basically this article means nothing - it just another rumor. Why get mad at apple until we know the truth. my guess is they will release the SDK to more developers next week. They will have some business applications that will be announced. in any case it will take developers some time to actually create applications. so its not like we will get 1,000's of applications next Thursday - they need to first get the ball rolling (hence road map).
I didnt say it was the fault of Apple that rollout of iPhone is going slowly, I just said it's going slowly.
True, I would rather have a good product, but that doesn't take away something is delayed again. That is what dissapoints me. Surprises me how I get attacked afther a bad comment about Apple. Wonder when the PR team will be standing before my house to shut my mouth because of bad PR...
True, I would rather have a good product, but that doesn't take away something is delayed again. That is what dissapoints me. Surprises me how I get attacked afther a bad comment about Apple. Wonder when the PR team will be standing before my house to shut my mouth because of bad PR...
SOT iPhone promotion idea...
When we bought our iPhones, our T-Mobile contract period had already been fulfilled, so we were able to switch to ATT on June 29, with no penalty.
Many posters on this, and other, forums have said that they would have purchased an iPhone, except that it would cost too much $ to break their contract.
Thinking out loud here... What if Apple, ATT and the other iPhone carriers (or both) offered an extra incentive to those tied to another carrier's contact:
-- Apple could offer Apple Store credits ($ or, say an iPod)
-- The carriers could offer reduced cost (for a period of time-- maybe with reduced reimbursement to Apple)
-- The carriers could offer additional services (or, say an iPod)
This would not need to offset the entire penalty-- just bring the "cost of switching" to iPhone to an acceptable/attractive level.
When we bought our iPhones, our T-Mobile contract period had already been fulfilled, so we were able to switch to ATT on June 29, with no penalty.
Many posters on this, and other, forums have said that they would have purchased an iPhone, except that it would cost too much $ to break their contract.
Thinking out loud here... What if Apple, ATT and the other iPhone carriers (or both) offered an extra incentive to those tied to another carrier's contact:
-- Apple could offer Apple Store credits ($ or, say an iPod)
-- The carriers could offer reduced cost (for a period of time-- maybe with reduced reimbursement to Apple)
-- The carriers could offer additional services (or, say an iPod)
This would not need to offset the entire penalty-- just bring the "cost of switching" to iPhone to an acceptable/attractive level.
Are you insane?
You obviously have no idea what an SDK is. Even if it were announced and distributed *last* week (early), you still would not be able to download apps until someone writes them and Apple posts them for download.
Ok let me get this straight.
some Random Blogger says it's only a BetaSDK don't expect much.
Yet alot of people believe the bad news.
A 3LetterTitle Tells the Investors....
For iPhone atlas report
You don't surprise people with bad news, we all know that's never a good plan. I'd say SDK release next week, with apps.
Maybe some API's won't appear until WWDC.
some Random Blogger says it's only a BetaSDK don't expect much.
Yet alot of people believe the bad news.
A 3LetterTitle Tells the Investors....
For iPhone atlas report
You don't surprise people with bad news, we all know that's never a good plan. I'd say SDK release next week, with apps.
Maybe some API's won't appear until WWDC.
1st of all ActiveX is on the way out. Microsoft themselves are dismanteling this. Also, 99% of websites DO NOT USE ActiveX. Secondly, (as I stated in my post) Flash is a hog on APPLE products. It does not have to be this way. Flash on my windows machine (99% of the time) is barely a blip in terms of resources or memory. Hence, the reason why many Mac fans are "against flash" is b/c it sucks on the Mac platform. Guess what, it doesn't have to be.
Flash is on 99% of all desktops. Apple made the claim that the iPhone would be using "the internet" and not the "baby internet." So, to many (myself included) without Flash, the iPhone's internet experience is *still* the "baby internet."
The flash resource and memory issues on Apple products is a software problem and can be solved. The lack of flash on the iPhone is more of a "war" between Apple and Adobe then anything. However, my continue rants against this are b/c Apple made the bold claim that the browsing experience with the iPhone would be the "internet." I (and many others) still content without Flash, this "bold claim" is not true at all and is still the "baby internet."
w00master
The hackers haven't done ANYTHING notable. They simply reverse engineered the API and SPIs that are already available on MobileOSX. This has nothing to do with creating a set of APIs which will work next month, next year and for the next decade to come. Creating a REAL SDK is a non-trivial work. Projects like this always take longer than expected.
Hehe. I had considered replying to your earlier comments.
Good catch.
Back on topic...
I agree with some that people need to "chill out" about this nonsense that Apple is "becoming like MS" for "releasing the SDK late!" This ain't easy stuff.
In any case, I'm gonna make some predictions on this upcoming event:
1. SDK in beta (duh) will be given to developers for testing
2. Update to iTunes
3. The rumor that early versions of the SDK were given to some developers will turn out to be true, and there will be "some" apps for users to download.
4. Preview/hints on iPhone v2.
Of course, I'll probably be wrong.
w00master
I agree with some that people need to "chill out" about this nonsense that Apple is "becoming like MS" for "releasing the SDK late!" This ain't easy stuff.
In any case, I'm gonna make some predictions on this upcoming event:
1. SDK in beta (duh) will be given to developers for testing
2. Update to iTunes
3. The rumor that early versions of the SDK were given to some developers will turn out to be true, and there will be "some" apps for users to download.
4. Preview/hints on iPhone v2.
Of course, I'll probably be wrong.
w00master
Why would you expect apps? This is an SDK release. What 3rd party apps people release has nothing to do with Apple. Your just setting yourself up for disappointment. What "apps" are you expecting?
Apple is becoming like Microsoft releasing everything late.
Apple had better stop poking fun of MS for lateness however. Steve is always quick to put in a little dig here and there. Man who live in glass house should not throw stones.
Apple had better stop poking fun of MS for lateness however. Steve is always quick to put in a little dig here and there. Man who live in glass house should not throw stones.
I was expecting Maya and Final Cut Studio iPhone edition. What did you think?
Ah, well that's OK then. I'd guarantee they'll be available on the same day as the SDK!
Great phone and no great applications. It sounds like the iPhone itself is still under development.
I'm not even going to read through this whole thread cuz I'm sure there's going to be a whole lot of mirror posts of this one.
All I really need to say is that if the SDK takes SOOOOOO much work and everybody should know this, then APPLE should know it better than anyone and shouldn't have projected the release for February.
Quit defending their mistakes!!! Gah!