iPhone SE 4 Leak Shows Dynamic Island, Casts Doubt on Rumored 'iPhone 16E' Name

[captain kaos]

Me too. I have a 15 normal, and id trade it in to get a phone that does what the rumours say it will, and not pay the monthlys for the 15. My needs for phone have lessened over the years. Even the camera isn't great anymore, (too much apple is messing about with it), so for me, it's banking, maps and web searches. Thats all I need now. The time of me being exacted about phones has past, but the SE is temping. I never thought id say that.

 

[itsthenewdc]

Ahh, spend more money and get a model with what you want…

You’re yapping about a 3K+ item to create content for and focusing on the basement model of phone? Seriously?

Not yapping. Just thinking a company like Apple, that tries to focus on quality and ecosystem, should think about the baseline they're setting. A phone coming out years after the AVP should be able to capture content for it. A more expensive tier of phone should differ by the power and "pro" feature sets. Spatial content should not be considered a higher end feature.

 

[Patdt13]

If this has MagSafe charging, this will be my new phone

 

[carrrrrlos]

Raise your hand if you think there’s just too many iPhone models to choose from at this point. Incremental tiered options make less sense now. The 'Pro' moniker may still hold true to their desktops, but finding it hard to justify getting another Pro these days. SE looking real nice.

 

[GalileoSeven]

If it’s not appreciably smaller than the base 15 or 16, then what’s the point (other than stuffing outdated/low-spec internals into a current chasis to create a ‘budget’ model…..) ??

 

[Ctrlos]

If it’s not appreciably smaller than the base 15 or 16, then what’s the point (other than stuffing outdated/low-spec internals into a current chasis to create a ‘budget’ model…..) ??

It lets Apple have a handset that caters to the midrange market currently spoilt by the Pixel 8a, Nothing 2a, Oneplus 13E etc.

Assuming a $500 or less price, the gains on the iPhone 16 would be a wide camera (+Macro), the action button, the camera button and.... thats it. It should be the same main camera, RAM and processor.

Thats a tempting offer.

 

[darkus]

This has all become a farce. Just repackaging the same device over and over with resultant essentially flat iphone sales for quite some years now.

The obvious decision is to venture into some new (old) territory which is to think about the end user experience once again. That means bringing back the iPhone Mini (better yet a truly "mini" phone closer to the 4" iphone) as well as ultra-light devices. This would of course be as an addon to the current lineup.

But theres always the army of people who say "iphone mini was a failure in sales". Which of course is both impossible and incorrect, since any extra sale is an extra sale. More importantly any extra sale also adds into the larger picture of the apple ecosystem where the real money is made on services. The hardware sales are a bonus.

Im afraid the apple corporate ship is suffering from the same stagnant thinking several other large tech companies have already fallen into. People with wisdom know the real reason why this is happening and it looks like the entire corporate structure is such that theres no solution forseable. Watch as the corporate leadership continues to change there over the next few years (as it already has significantly) to reflect the loss of talent and thinking and replaced with mindless people whos main skill set is rote repetition and theft of other peoples ideas. The real hope is that a new group picks up and moves into this space and starts offering products within the vision of Apple of 10-20 years ago, including of course steve jobs

 

[Alex.ne]

I would seriously consider saying Bye to my beloved iPhone 13 mini if all of this information is true.

 

[MacRazySwe]

OK, with today's reported sales numbers (18 % decline in iPhone sales in China, for Q4) and Apple only expected to report single digit growth in Q125, this model makes a lot of sense.

I guess Apple wants to get this to market ASAP.

 

[SeenJeen]

On one hand, if all this is true, I'm beginning to regret my iPhone 16 purchase since the iPhone SE 4 will essentially be the 16 sans 1 camera and the useless (to me) additional buttons. On the other hand, I hope this is true because honestly the iPhone 16 is extremely overpriced for what it offers.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see third-party sellers with heavily discounted 16's.

 

[cdsapplefan]

This is pretty much an iPhone 16 without the ultra-wide camera and Camera Control. Seems too good for an SE.

Without MagSafe too. We will find out in March if these rumors are true. Dynamic island on the SE would severely cannabalize the iPhone 16 standard. So I will have to see that to believe it. Unless Apple doesn’t care about the iPhone 16 anymore which I highly doubt.

 

[SactoGuy18]

I EXTREMELY doubt this leak. A Dynamic Island for the iPhone 4 SE would be more expensive and would immediately cut into iPhone 16 sales. I think we'll see what amounts to an modernized iPhone 14 with the notch for Face ID, but will use mostly iPhone 16 internals with the new Apple modem and USB Type C port; it may even lack the camera control button to cut costs lower.

 

[Paddle1]

Without MagSafe too. We will find out in March if these rumors are true. Dynamic island on the SE would severely cannabalize the iPhone 16 standard. So I will have to see that to believe it. Unless Apple doesn’t care about the iPhone 16 anymore which I highly doubt.

I haven't seen anything to indicate that it wouldn't have MagSafe. They have incentive to include it for accessory sales.

 

[dampfnudel]

Dynamic Island, the latest A18, Apple Intelligence, 48 MP, at a price of $499 USD or equivalent currency.
I would trade in my iPhone 15!
shut up and take my money gif.

Sounds almost too good to be true at $499, at least when you use Tim logic. Maybe $549-599 with the discontinuation of the 14 and 15? Eliminating the 14 and 15 would mean every iPhone available for sale would support Apple Intelligence.

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

I EXTREMELY doubt this leak. A Dynamic Island for the iPhone 4 SE would be more expensive and would immediately cut into iPhone 16 sales. I think we'll see what amounts to an modernized iPhone 14 with the notch for Face ID, but will use mostly iPhone 16 internals with the new Apple modem and USB Type C port; it may even lack the camera control button to cut costs lower.

Agree.

Apple didn't r&d and spend millions to promote the 16/16 Plus just to have buyers ditch it 6 months later for some beefed up iPhone 14 that's very close to being on-par with 16 besides the rear camera setup.

Apple needs the 16/16 Plus to retain their (perceived) values and continue selling until iPhones 17 drop.

SE also mainly sells to a demographic that either will not or literally cannot afford a lot more than $399-$499 on a new smartphone.

In this demographic there's also a ton of public institutions and privates businesses all around the World that need several many iPhones for their employees with the latest SoC but can't pay $799-$999 per unit.

You can't sell to this demographic no matter how great the value is. The starting price has to be in the $399-$499 range (or less).

Apple will stick to the SE formula for SE 4. Dynamic Island wasn't on iPhone 14 and thus won't be on SE 4.

 

[dampfnudel]

Agree.

Apple didn't r&d and spend millions to promote the 16/16 Plus just to have buyers ditch it 6 months later for some beefed up iPhone 14 that's very close to being on-par with 16 besides the rear camera setup.

Apple needs the 16/16 Plus to retain their (perceived) values and continue selling until iPhones 17 drop.

SE also mainly sells to a demographic that either will not or literally cannot afford a lot more than $399-$499 on a new smartphone.

In this demographic there's also a ton of public institutions and privates businesses all around the World that need several many iPhones for their employees with the latest SoC but can't pay $799-$999 per unit.

You can't sell to this demographic no matter how great the value is. The starting price has to be in the $399-$499 range (or less).

Apple will stick to the SE formula for SE 4. Dynamic Island wasn't on iPhone 14 and thus won't be on SE 4.

What’s to stop Apple from adding a feature they believe will make this new SE more popular, even if it requires a small price hike?

 

[cdsapplefan]

Agree.

Apple didn't r&d and spend millions to promote the 16/16 Plus just to have buyers ditch it 6 months later for some beefed up iPhone 14 that's very close to being on-par with 16 besides the rear camera setup.

Apple needs the 16/16 Plus to retain their (perceived) values and continue selling until iPhones 17 drop.

SE also mainly sells to a demographic that either will not or literally cannot afford a lot more than $399-$499 on a new smartphone.

In this demographic there's also a ton of public institutions and privates businesses all around the World that need several many iPhones for their employees with the latest SoC but can't pay $799-$999 per unit.

You can't sell to this demographic no matter how great the value is. The starting price has to be in the $399-$499 range (or less).

Apple will stick to the SE formula for SE 4. Dynamic Island wasn't on iPhone 14 and thus won't be on SE 4.

This rumor of dynamic island on the budget iPhone SE is not believable. Why would Apple want to sell what would be essentially an iPhone 16 clone for way less only 6 months later? Apple has to have a real concrete feature gap in between phones.

 

[DarthDon]

This rumor of dynamic island on the budget iPhone SE is not believable. Why would Apple want to sell what would be essentially an iPhone 16 clone for way less only 6 months later? Apple has to have a real concrete feature gap in between phones.

Bec at that point, that tech will be 3 years old. Reduced to 60 or 90Hz it is possible to sell cheap...

 

[DarthDon]

You don’t have to be a professional to appreciate the extra zoom options. I use the ultra wide and also the 5x telephoto all the time for casual use.

Samsung is putting three cameras on their A-series phones which compete in the same price bracket as the SE.

I do know many peoples with Iphones. Actually near to no one uses that frequently, many not at all.

 

[itti]

This is my dream SE

 

[v0lume4]

I do know many peoples with Iphones. Actually near to no one uses that frequently, many not at all.

Interesting.

 

[Hank001]

LOL! 😀

Good catch but, on reflection, sort of makes sense. For example, say, Blass sent something to a friend or a restricted group of friends — and one of them released it to MR!

Raises ethical questions, but who knows what actually happened?

I share another commenter's question about the images — Blass apparently showed code. What's being displayed in the drawings of the iPhones of different sizes?

Excellent example! Yeah, hadn't thought about that type of situation.

 

[Reason077]

But the regular 16 doesn't have ProMotion either, unless they're strictly thinking ahead to the 17.

Right, the 17 supposedly will have it. And the SE will be selling against that before too long.

 

[zenmacx]

I'm watching the development of this SE model or whatever they call it, very closely.

For many years I've chosen the iPhone Pro Max model for its larger screen and other features. Updating annually because I'm a tech enthusiast, not an Apple devotee.

That all changed with the implementation of the Camera Control button on the iPhone 16 Pro Max. Upon handling the phone in the Apple Store I found the placement of the button awkward and uncomfortable to use. Wanting to like it, embrace change and move forward, no hand position could even begin to convince me that giving it time would make things better.

Thus the Camera Control button became a deal breaker, rather shocking and disappointing. The first year I have not bought a new iPhone.

The good news is I saved some money and didn't cave into Apples compelling marketing pitch.

Going forward it's wait and see if perhaps the iPhone 17 Slim or whatever they call it might not include that dreaded button.

I will not buy an iPhone with that button.

 

[HazeAndHahmahneez]

Exactly my thoughts. They need people creating 3D content for Vision.

This that and all of this! With Vision, there is massive potential for bringing ppl together "virtually" (spatially!?!) albeit the tech is so bewilderingly expensive and thus restrictive to gain entrance. Widespread spatial capturing SHOULD be at the top or near the top of priorities when it comes to enhancing vision engagement numbers....

id say spatial capture over 120 hz screen and wide camera and macro camera...also over Dynamic Island!

for the guy who said uniform design ditch the notch....well, dynamic on Macs don't sound all that feasible, at least, not without touch screen....now, that would be a scenario.