It would continue to offer its primary selling point, a low price. I think the main reasons people have purchased SE phones were the low price combined with some "modern" tech such as a newer chip.
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It would continue to offer its primary selling point, a low price. I think the main reasons people have purchased SE phones were the low price combined with some "modern" tech such as a newer chip.
Which would you consider? Aren't most current Android phones at least 6.1" display?
Yea I was pleased when I got a call with it closed, and I could just answer from the small screen, and it was already in speaker mode.
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I got it because it was Touch when masks were rampant before all the workarounds like watch and unlock with mask were released, and it was only $399 retail. But it was too small to use primary and masks mostly went away, so I went back to my 13PM. Now I use it for Apple things I can't do at all or as easily on my Z Flip 4
You are correct, there are no major Android brands selling a new 2022 phone under that size. Rumors that Google plan to release a Google Pixel Mini, codenamed "Neila", but who knows what Google considers mini.
No, hardly anyone wants them. This has been proven time and time again.
it's a really good point.
However, if the rumours are true by 2023, the regular iPhones will have the dynamic island too and the XR/11 body and notch will start to look old fashioned.
We'll have to assume that the 2023 new chassis design that's due for regular and pro chassis will look very modern too.
And let's assume that there's some additional hardware features that none of us know about too - better water/dust ingress? Certainly it's a given that the cameras will be better.
So if that's the case, the XR chassis will start to look slightly old fashioned.
If we also assume that it's going to have just a 'good' processor (I'm going to suggest that like the iPhone 14, it won't necessarily be a given that the next SE will get the same get processor as the current iPhones - it really just might be the A15) and it might just have the camera from the 14 too.
That then starts to sound like a budget iPhone to me and a clear reason to buy the regular one or the pro one if you want the latest and greatest good stuff.
You may want to rethink your view of what most people want. In 2020 the SE was one of the best selling mobile phones in the world and the number two best seller for Apples range of phones. The SE range has always been a consistent good seller for Apple. It is certainly not going away anytime soon.
I understand what you're saying, but would getting a phone with a better camera (but not light years ahead), dynamic island (potentially) and a higher IPX rating really convince a non-techie to spend an extra $350 on the mainline model?
Apple has to demonstrate a sizable difference between the SE and mainline iPhones that are obvious to the average person and provide enough of a benefit to justify spending the extra cash. To me having that 5.4" to 6.1" to 6.7" screen size difference is the easiest and clearest way to do this. Seeing the massive upgrade cycles that occurred with the iPhone 6 and the Max phones suggests that the market sees screen size as a big differentiator too. The iPhone 14 Plus will be a big test of this, but sadly I don't think we'll get to see the sale numbers beyond analyst estimations.
I would like to see if Apple introduces a 4K LCD screen with new 11/XR styled IPhone SE. I think the screen is the bigger factor for most upgrading. Camera helps upgrading too
I get what you're saying, but if you look at the world of Android, even really cheap phones have big screens.
Now we live in a world where a 6.1 inch screen is considered 'small' 🤷♂️.
So Apple needs to compete with the wider market. And the wider market is going for big big phones, whether we like it or not.
I personally agree that it’s no harder. I'm not at all implying you need a home button for voiceover. That being said, I’ve worked with several voiceover users that disagree. When I’ve made comments or suggestions about using a device without a home button, it hasn’t been well received.
It could be that I've mainly worked with people less experienced/adept with voiceover, hence why they needed my help in the first place. But from my experience, the majority of voiceover users prefer a home button. Even if it isn't the majority, there is a large user base that will not be happy if the home button goes away.
I've now had my iPhone 13 mini since Tuesday and overall I love it. It has the same screen real estate in terms of how the UI is rendered as the 11 Pro I traded in for it, but the size and weight are just so much nicer for me. I do hope it comes back as an SE or Apple releases a new mini again some time in the future. I would really like my iPhone to stay this size for a long time.
With iPhone 13 mini internals may need to wait to 2024 for parts pricing to drop. I would love to see this OR they go iPhone X 5.8inch size. Not a fan of the bulky round edged XR. Between 5.4 and 5.8 inches is ideal. Already mentioned in other posts would be a good way to differentiate with upper level modals with larger screens.
The 13 mini is definitely a special little device—perhaps my most favorite iPhone of all time. Which color/capacity did you get? I’ve been rocking with the green 256GB since the mid-cycle refresh in March, but now I wish I’d gone for the 512GB for ultimate longevity. Although space for me isn’t really an issue; I just sometimes have a compulsive (lossless) music-downloading habit
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I was torn between Midnight and Green, but ultimately I went with Midnight because my 11 Pro was Midnight Green and I decided to switch it up a bit. I got 512GB. I store so much stuff on my phone I can't go to a lower tier without first doing some major spring cleaning on it.The 13 mini is definitely a special little device—perhaps my most favorite iPhone of all time. Which color/capacity did you get? I’ve been rocking with the green 256GB since the mid-cycle refresh in March, but now I wish I’d gone for the 512GB for ultimate longevity. Although space for me isn’t really an issue; I just sometimes have a compulsive (lossless) music-downloading habit
This rollable concept phone by Motorola is interesting: https://www.engadget.com/lenovo-shows-off-a-rollable-smartphone-and-laptop-090518096.html
Pretty cool tech. I wouldn't want to invest in something like that until the tech is very mature. Those moving parts make for more things to potentially break.
Yes, Apple wants to make money. But to me, that means no mini form factor for the SE4
. There are people including myself that love the mini.
But the majority wants larger screens. So if apple has the choice of 6.1“ SE4 or 5.4“ SE4, selling both at the same price, they’ll likely chose 6.1.
Sad for small-phone-people like me, but I‘d say it’s unlikely we‘ll see a mini form factor again
I think the mini will return, but in a couple or three to four years. Apple knows there is market for the smaller phones, but it's not big enough to justify annual production. They will bring it back in one form or the other, just a few years from now.Yes, Apple wants to make money. But to me, that means no mini form factor for the SE4
There are people including myself that love the mini.
But the majority wants larger screens. So if apple has the choice of 6.1“ SE4 or 5.4“ SE4, selling both at the same price, they’ll likely chose 6.1.
Sad for small-phone-people like me, but I‘d say it’s unlikely we‘ll see a mini form factor again
If it gets A17 half a year later, plus is the first iPhone to have the in house Apple wifi+modem combo chip, this could have a lot of appeal. Honestly multiple cameras are somewhat overrated, especially as many 2x/3x shots are actually still using the main sensor and cropping unless its bright enough to use the zoom lens. Could potentially be my next.
Not sure what you mean by needing bright light with the tele. Both the main and tele on the 14pro are f1.78. The wide is f2.2.