In the end, I really hope the iPhone SE 4 will be based on the iPhone 13 mini, but with only a small cutout for the front selfie camera, Touch ID on an enlarged power button, and a single rear camera sensor.
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I wonder if Apple would bring the Mini back as a less expensive SE where its sales would be higher due to its lower price.
A flip phone doesn’t provide two features that make small phones attractive: lighter weight, and thumbability (reachability). Also, they have to be flipped open to use them, which is somewhat less convenient.
Yes but if you look at the Z Flip 4, you can perform various every day tasks in clamshell mode on the front small screen. The Z Flip does weight more though at 6.60 Ounces.
The name was the problem with the mini. Also it needed to be another $100 cheaper. A $100 upgrade to get away from something labeled “mini” is really no choice at all.
I told ya! This was always most likely. I probably won't want to buy it unless it's made a more neat size and weight like the iPhone 12 6.1". But the 6.1" form factor is a huge cash cow.
It has been too many years since the iPhone 6-8 shape and that 4.7" or even 5.5" screen is nowhere else in the market - look at it from Apple's point of view as a company. The same goes for compact sizes. We won't see either of those things again, as much as we wish for them.
It has been too many years since the iPhone 6-8 shape and that 4.7" or even 5.5" screen is nowhere else in the market - look at it from Apple's point of view as a company. The same goes for compact sizes. We won't see either of those things again, as much as we wish for them.
Yes, yes, yes. Because people who want and prefer a smaller phone most probably don't spend time on TikTok all day.
Thinking about it further, adding this iPhone SE4 in the XR design would mean there would then be three 6.1" iPhones in the line up - SE4, regular 6.1" iPhone and then the iPhone Pro also with a 6.1" screen ... i mean that would be utterly pathetic from Apple if they actually did this. Great variation in sizes there Apple LOL.
Switcher Edition, or Senior Edition seem to work too. It makes sense to give a performant taste of the ecosystem to those curious users, and helps utilitarian seniors on a budget not gravitate to samsung.Yes, I think SE should now stand for Secondhand Edition
Well, they already did it on the (much lower-volume) Macbooks.
I think many of them would actually benefit from a bigger screen. Not saying that eyesight or tactility was a huge problem when seniors bought iPhones 4 or 5, but with increased usage of apps on phoned, some should appreciate bigger screens.
In 2 years, make the iPhone 12 mini the se, and the regular iPhone 12 the se plus.
This is cheaper to produce than another lcd based iPhone, just make everything oled, seems cheaper to me.
Apple is just worried that their upsell strategy won’ t work as good, with a better(and cheaper to produce se) .
This is cheaper to produce than another lcd based iPhone, just make everything oled, seems cheaper to me.
Apple is just worried that their upsell strategy won’ t work as good, with a better(and cheaper to produce se) .
Did Apple ever produce a tv commercial for the Mini? What was the advertising budget, did Apple put any effort into selling them?
I never got that thing with not reaching the top left. I can reach it easily on any iPhone max by holding the phone on my fingers. This is only an issue when someone grips his phone very tight but again I don’t get why they do that.
The issue is that with a large phone you cannot do anything else in parallel... In your example you also need to change position of the phone in your hand to be able to reach upper left corner. So it becomes a bit unstable and inconvenient.
I am sometimes on the bike while eg quickly checking google maps or so… very troublesome with anything bigger than an iPhone 8. And easier with a mini sized phone.
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Theoretical violations are certainly a concern here. To be clear, I am not thinking of the contents of the secure enclave leaving the device - I'll assume Apple are correct about that, and similar data could probably be found elsewhere. Insights derived from querying the facial recognition sensors are what I'm thinking of; more along these lines: https://www.theguardian.com/media/pda/2010/sep/27/advertising-billboards-facial-recognition-japan
Are they already doing it? Can I prove it? I don't consider that this matters, for they have put in place a system that would allow them to do things I dislike, and I'd be reliant upon their goodwill to not abuse it.
I can't find it right now, but I recall a tweet at the time the iPhone X was launched saying something along the lines of "normalizing that your phone looks back at you is the real harm Apple has done, despite good intentions and care".
Of course, most of us tolerate some sort of invasive technology for its convenience or out of necessity, such as having a Facebook account because it's the only way to keep in touch with a particular relative, and so on. We must each choose where to draw the line; having my phone watch me is one I won't cross.
Would it not make more sense just to keep the 13 Mini around for a few years with just a chip upgrade every two years? I say this as a Mini fan. The design is fine, IMHO. It could work as a niche product for a long time..
See this iPhone 5 ad:
And then this iPhone 6 Plus parody:
You can’t reach all of the screen on a bigger phone one-handed without changing you grip and moving your palm towards the front of the phone, instead of keeping it at the back with a safe grip.
Or maybe you have spider fingers.
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It seems to be affecting a subset of the people already sensitive to pwm.
Here’s the weird thing for me personally. I’d been getting headaches and eye strain from SOME OLED displays and none on the iPhone 11 and SE 2022. BUT, twice now, I’ve noticed after prolonged use of Apple LCD phone displays that there’s a white shimmer in the left side of my left eye’s vision. After almost a year of majority LCD use, the shimmer was overtaking my left vision.
I got my 14 Pro Max and put the LCD phones in storage and my vision is almost back to normal. I did go to my opthamologist with this problem and he assured me my eyes are very healthy. Now I just have to get myself on a waitlist for an appointment with a neurologist.
As far as pwm is concerned on the 14 Pro Max, I seem okay.
Sure. If Apple‘s data analysis determines that there is opportunity for more profit in an iPhone like this, they can add it to the lineup as a separate product.
But, assuming the rumor holds, no, this apparently could not be demonstrated to be a better business case for the fourth generation SE than using the XR/11 form factor. As a Mini owner, this naturally disappoints me, but it certainly does not shock me.
I’m not sure what an SE would offer at this point if it’s not even a smaller firms factor.
I want a 15 mini or mini pro.
I want a 15 mini or mini pro.
If this is how big the screen is, then it's not an SE to me and I won't buy it.
I fear screen size is the reason I will have to move to Android one day.
I fear screen size is the reason I will have to move to Android one day.
The SE historically was about repurposing a previous gen chassis with updated internals for a cheap price. Size was not specifically the factor.
What a hypothetical SE 4 would offer is the ability to get a bargain for an Apple product. The day before the SE 3 was announced, I bought an SE 2 from my carrier for $199. Sure, it's locked in to the carrier. But I've got a great no-contract plan and have no interest in changing providers, so $199 (total and final cost of the phone) is a great deal.
When the SE 4 is released, the carrier will sell that for $199 as well.
Given that you are interested in the 15 Mini or Mini Pro, it is pretty obvious that you aren't the target market for the SE.