iPhone SE With Larger 5.7-Inch Display May Launch in 2023, 'iPhone SE+ 5G' Also Rumored

[MacBH928]

I'm loving FaceID on my XR and TouchID on my MacBook Air. Not missing TouchID on my phone. Why do you prefer it over FaceID?

it works...EVERY TIME. It works ... under low light. It works ...whatever I have on my face. It works...without me having to pull the phone out and face it in a straight horizontal line.

many times I actually have the phone on the table and just open it laying down.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

You don't either.

Apple kept the 12 mini when the 13 was launched. It would be strange to drop it now, let alone the 13 mini. The minis are still needed to push people into spending an extra $100 for the regular version.

My take on September 2022 lineup
SE gone
128GB 11: $449
128GB 12 mini: $549
128GB 12: $649
13 mini: $599
13: $699
14: $799
14 Max: $899

This will then make room for the SE 2023 5G at $399 in Spring 2023.

That lineup is an absolute mess, way too many phones priced only $50 apart.
I think that when Apple introduces the 14 series, with absolutely no mini model, all of the other minis they are currently selling will disappear as well.
So:
SE: $399
SE+5G: $499
12: $599
13: $699
14: $799
14 Max: $899
So since the 14 won’t have a mini, all of the other minis will disappear. You’ll just have the two SE’s, 12, 13, and 14 series.
No more mini, all the phones would be priced $100 apart

 

[ian87w]

That lineup is an absolute mess, way too many phones priced only $50 apart.

Currently, the 128GB iPhone 12 and 128Gb iPhone 13 are only $50 difference.
So it's nothing new for Apple.

 

[badaer]

Any international selling company with some sense would never use China as a single template for all other markets.

There's a demand for small sized iPhones in markets like ours, but to make it sell good Apple should try not to reduce too much on features and still stick a sky high price tag on it.

But the sad fact is, even in the US, iPhone 12 mini is not selling well. https://www.macrumors.com/2021/01/05/iphone-12-mini-sales-lackluster-cirp/
And a 5.7-inch display, though making the new iPhone SE slightly larger than iPhone 12/13 mini, won't change the fact that it is a small sized iPhone. I really love iPhone 12/13 mini, but I personally think Ross Young's prediction here makes sense.

 

[EdT]

Putting most of a bigger phone’s features into a much smaller phone is likely to make that phone more expensive. There may be a market for a full feature smaller than 6 inch phone but is that market large enough to justify it’s own production line?

Apple (or Samsung) could decide to go the Rolls Royce luxury car route, slightly inverted: a SMALL phone, fast processor, high res screen, premium camera, as much memory as physically possible, but how many would they sell? What would be the price where people, even the rich, wouldn’t pay that much for a phone?The market is small, and the pressure on buyers to upgrade would be less on a year to year basis.

I LIKE having a screen large enough to watch content without losing a lot of detail. I currently have a 13 Pro , not a Pro Max, and I like its size. I wasn’t crazy about the cost, but my IPhone 10 XS Max battery quit holding a charge and Apple recently quit supporting that particular model. I was told it was because it had an all glass case and they had a lot of repair problems servicing that model. For repairs you don’t want an oddball phone.

 

[bluecoast]

Up to now the SE has always been a retooling of an existing phone chassis.

But what if this phone is a new chassis designed to be akin to the iPad Air and Apple’s budget phone for the mid 20s?

There’s only so long that you can keep on reusing the same chassis without dragging your brand down.

 

[Digitalguy]

Its a combination of factors, but trends change over time. We've seen desktop computers change in size too. Room sized business mainframes to small sized desktop "home computers" in the late 80ies. Then they got bigger again in the late 90ies, and now we have powerful small super flat Macbooks and tablets. We'll see what phones will do.


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No, there is no going back to small phones unfortunately... Those changes you mentioned are linked to what technology could offer, not to trends. Too many people do things on their phones that work better with a larger screen, such as watching videos, gaming etc and for some that's their main or only personal computing device (so battery life is also very important). So they are ok trading a more uncomfortable phone (larger and heavier) with more screen and battery life...
People who prefer small phones generally don't do those things (I never watch videos or game on my phone, and only rarely browse websites). My phone is mainly for calls, notifications and photos... I do everything else on my computers and tablets. So I don't need much battery life either. But I am in the minority and that will not change. Some companies may choose to cater to some extent to our niche, but that's all that it is now, a niche....

 

[speedyraf]

The usage of my iPhone SE (1st gen) appears similar to "Digital Guy": including voice calls, texting, photos, notifications, some apps, minimal FaceTime/browser surfing over wi-fi, and listening to music/podcasts. I'm encouraged seeing news that the iPhone SE 2020 sold well that says to me there must be a decent "niche" market for this size iPhone for people like me. Sure, I'm not the feature-heavy user, but when the iPhone SE 3rd gen (or whatever Apple calls it) arrives, we may look at it seriously. Perhaps an increase in base model storage/RAM increase along with an upgraded Touch ID will be part of the "package"?

 

[barfingclouds]

I hope they sell the 2022 iPhone SEs for a while. I hate the full screen touch screens, and I hate face ID. I had a iPhone 13 mini for about a month before I realized it was not the device for me (had the iPhone 7 for years until then). What I really want is the iPhone 4/5 design, but the iPhone 8 design is something I can live with. All models after, I absolutely loathe. I really like my 2020 SE. TouchID is definitely superior to face ID, and face ID in general feels really violating and unnecessary.

I feel like Apple is about to come into an existential crisis, because we've years ago reached the point to where our phones are "good enough". They take good photos, I can send emails and texts and facebook posts, etc. with ease. Apple wants us to perpetually keep upgrading, but why? If my phone could perform like it does now until the end of time, I'd be more than happy with that.

 

[barfingclouds]

The usage of my iPhone SE (1st gen) appears similar to "Digital Guy": including voice calls, texting, photos, notifications, some apps, minimal FaceTime/browser surfing over wi-fi, and listening to music/podcasts. I'm encouraged seeing news that the iPhone SE 2020 sold well that says to me there must be a decent "niche" market for this size iPhone for people like me. Sure, I'm not the feature-heavy user, but when the iPhone SE 3rd gen (or whatever Apple calls it) arrives, we may look at it seriously. Perhaps an increase in base model storage/RAM increase along with an upgraded Touch ID will be part of the "package"?

I recently bought an iPod Touch because it's similar to that first gen iPhone SE. I love it so much more than new iPhones. It feels like it has a totally different spirit to it than these weird big new iPhones