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iPhone Sticking With Lightning Port Over USB-C for 'Foreseeable Future'

zorinlynx said:
I know I'll catch flak for saying this, but...

I'm glad. The lightning connector is a lot more durable than USB-C. I honestly think that this is why Apple keeps using it in their highest volume products.

We tend to plug and unplug our phones a lot to charge them, sometimes on a daily basis.

I've seen Macbooks with USB-C where the socket has worn out to such an extent the plug will fall out if you turn it sideways.

I've never seen a lightning connector wear out. At the worst it needs an occasional cleaning.

Yes, it's annoying to have a different connector than my Android friends but honestly, it's not a big deal. I almost always have a cable in my car I can use in an emergency.
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After using USB-C for about 3 years and had no cables broken, and whereas now the last of all my lightning cables had broken yesterday (8 cables wasted), I think that prefer the lightning over USB-C is the greedy and not green way.

The best thing the apple did to the power adaptors on MacBook line was a detachable USB-C cable, could be a detachable usb-c to magsafe cable, but it's already an evolution.
 
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steevn said:
It would be all of them obviously, in reality there aren’t that many vehicles with CarPlay so the impact is not as wide ranging as you believe.

The same thing happened to vehicles with 8 tracks, cassettes and cds, CarPlay isn’t exempt from future technology happening.

Apple isn’t going to keep a port “just because” a few people have older vehicles that only support wired CarPlay, it’s not even a consideration for them.

Whether you like to believe it or not, wired CarPlay is the first iteration of the technology, and it’s already outdated. Right now. Today.
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blog.mapbox.com

240 million cars equipped with Apple CarPlay

By: Larry Wang
blog.mapbox.com blog.mapbox.com

”A few people...”

Strong take.
 
Deguello said:
”A few people...”

Strong take.
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Prove it wrong lol. How many total vehicles are on the road in the world today? Compare that with how many of them have Apple CarPlay, it’s a VERY TINY percentage.

Then take into account how many people actually even use or care about having Apple CarPlay in their vehicle and now we are talking about “a few people” in total, far from the end of the world everyone wants to believe.

That’s not even including the actual shift that is happening towards wireless CarPlay as of over a year ago, so that means wired CarPlay has already peaked and is in decline.
 
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steevn said:
Prove it wrong lol. How many total vehicles are on the road in the world today? Compare that with how many of them have Apple CarPlay, it’s a VERY TINY percentage.

Then take into account how many people actually even use or care about having Apple CarPlay in their vehicle and now we are talking about “a few people” in total, far from the end of the world everyone wants to believe.

That’s not even including the actual shift that is happening towards wireless CarPlay as of over a year ago, so that means wired CarPlay has already peaked and is in decline.
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I must did prove it wrong. Just because you want to move the goalposts to percentages rather than number doesn’t change that. Yes, yes, all these manufacturers and aftermarket companies are offering CarPlay because people don’t care.

“Nearly all CarPlay setups require an iPhone to be plugged in directly to the in-dash system to connect...” https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/carplay/

Your shift in the face of actual numbers shows you‘re interested in defending your claim rather than reality, so have fun with that.
 
Deguello said:
I must did prove it wrong. Just because you want to move the goalposts to percentages rather than number doesn’t change that. Yes, yes, all these manufacturers and aftermarket companies are offering CarPlay because people don’t care.

“Nearly all CarPlay setups require an iPhone to be plugged in directly to the in-dash system to connect...” https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/carplay/

Your shift in the face of actual numbers shows you‘re interested in defending your claim rather than reality, so have fun with that.
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Yes, nearly all CarPlay setups “right now” do need wires... that’s not proving anything lol because we already know that. What I’m saying is there is already a shift going towards wireless CarPlay, which means we are at peak wired CarPlay vehicles, wired CarPlay will only go down from here in favor of wireless CarPlay.

I don’t know why this is so hard to understand, how long did you grasp on to CD players being removed from vehicles until you realized it was going to happen either way?

I didn’t need to move any goalposts, I simply stated most vehicles on the road do not have CarPlay right now, so those being affected by the shift to wireless CarPlay is small. Most importantly, manufacturers will advance to the best technologies available and older vehicles with older technology will not slow that down.
 
I only ever use my lightening port to charge my iPhone - thats it.
CarPlay is wireless in my car, and I backup the phone to iCloud. I cant remember the last time I plugged in my iPhone to a computer for anything at all. Hence, I don't really care much for a USB-C port - wouldn't make much difference to me TBH.
 
Ifti said:
I only ever use my lightening port to charge my iPhone - thats it.
CarPlay is wireless in my car, and I backup the phone to iCloud. I cant remember the last time I plugged in my iPhone to a computer for anything at all. Hence, I don't really care much for a USB-C port - wouldn't make much difference to me TBH.
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You don't ever want to have to plug in a USB-C cord into an iPhone at all.
 
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zorinlynx said:
I know I'll catch flak for saying this, but...

I'm glad. The lightning connector is a lot more durable than USB-C. I honestly think that this is why Apple keeps using it in their highest volume products.

We tend to plug and unplug our phones a lot to charge them, sometimes on a daily basis.

I've seen Macbooks with USB-C where the socket has worn out to such an extent the plug will fall out if you turn it sideways.

I've never seen a lightning connector wear out. At the worst it needs an occasional cleaning.

Yes, it's annoying to have a different connector than my Android friends but honestly, it's not a big deal. I almost always have a cable in my car I can use in an emergency.
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Well then maybe iPad Pro shouldn’t switch to USB-C if Apple loves Lightning so much? Why keep things complicated between iOS devices?

Consistency is the word here.
 
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ahostmadsen said:
Totally opposite. Every one of my lightening connectors has worn out resulting in having to do weird wriggling to make them charge. No problem with any of my Apple USB-C devices.
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I've been seeing this a lot more lately and it's baffling the hell out of me. None of my previous iPhones had lightning connector issues, but lately I'm finding it very finicky to get a cable to stay connected on my iPhone 8 or my wife's 2020 SE.

The one common factor is that I'm seeing this with three Anker cables I bought. All are fairly new, one is USB-C to Lightning, and two are USB-A to Lightning. All three seem to absolutely suck.
 
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No port, and I am out of here. There is no way you can get hires audio or even CD-quality audio via Bluetooth. And if they force me to use wireless headphones, I may look for a different brand phone - even though I would hate that. Every person with a decent set of headphones would have to can (no pun intended) them, if Apple decides to go portless. I simply don't believe they will. Not until you at least can play wireless to a pair of headphones with Airplay 2 and not Bluetooth.
 
My iPad , MBP, and secondary phone has usb-c but Apple refusing to put it on newer iPhones is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as people defending this decision.
 
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H3LL5P4WN said:
Sorry, I’ll take my smaller, stronger, untainted by android OEMs Lightning cable any day.
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Versus the cables Apple successfully is using elsewhere? After a ton of broken lightning cables and two iPhones with broken lightning ports, I’m ready for a change I think.
 
ericwn said:
Versus the cables Apple successfully is using elsewhere? After a ton of broken lightning cables and two iPhones with broken lightning ports, I’m ready for a change I think.
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Have you tried not treating your phones and cables like Tonka trucks?

I've never broken a Lightning cable, let alone a port.
 
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I'd rather the lightning cable itself wear out than the actual port get loose from wear and tear. My 12 inch Macbook is already showing signs of a loose port (the only port) no matter what USB C cable I use. No problems on the lightning ports from any of my Apple products, even older iPad Airs.
 
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norbinhouston said:
I'd rather the lightning cable itself wear out than the actual port get loose from wear and tear. My 12 inch Macbook is already showing signs of a loose port (the only port) no matter what USB C cable I use. No problems on the lightning ports from any of my Apple products, even older iPad Airs.
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I had the same problem with the USB C port on my old phone. After a couple years the cable wouldn’t stick in at all.
 
_Spinn_ said:
I had the same problem with the USB C port on my old phone. After a couple years the cable wouldn’t stick in at all.
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Yep. All four ports on my 2016 MBP are loosy-goosy. The “ding” from power disconnecting and reconnecting when I am working with the machine on my lap is pretty annoying.
 
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