dawnrazor
macrumors 6502
prefer the idea of a flip phone… think apple are missing a trick there…
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Veinticinco
macrumors 68020
Yeah no, I’ll stick to an iPhone Pro Max and iPad mini and keep the change, if it’s all the same with you Tim.
Disappointed they’re not exhuming the iBook name. Not seeing what’s Ultra about it, other than the anticipated price.
Disappointed they’re not exhuming the iBook name. Not seeing what’s Ultra about it, other than the anticipated price.
Veinticinco
macrumors 68020
Quite. That is a form factor I’d have some interest in as a secondary phone, as would many others who prefer a small footprint.
Mac Fly (film)
macrumors 68040
Returned new 14-inch M5 MBP. The PWM mini-LED backlight 15 kHz flicker (which I’m sensitive to) was too much for me. Switching to Apple Display (P3-600 nits) and turning off HDR in Safari didn’t fix it for me. ProMotion is different from PWM, before anyone suggested it.
The notch I noticed just once and immediately forgot about it. It’s a non-issue. The speakers are decent but quite bass heavy. Apple should have a first-party equalizer built into System Settings for those who wish to prioritise spoken content.
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Happy_John
macrumors 68000
Meh. A flip iPhone would be an iPhone when flipped and an Apple Watch when closed, but then there’s less incentive to buy an Apple Watch except for health tracking sensors…
It messes up Apple’s aim of customers buying at least one item in every category.
Not a problem with this fold / ultra, because not many people will buy it anyway. Foldable phones are a tiny segment the smartphone market, and the price will make it as niche as the Vision Pro ( but better for Apple and the buyers because it’s more portable than a Vision Pro and so easier to casually signal you are rich enough to own it).
It’s going to be a “wealth status” product more than a use-focused product, sadly, as you’ll be able to buy both an iPad mini and and iPhone pro for less than the price of it., and the argument that “it’s easier to carry than an iPhone and an iPad mini” is less convincing if you actually try to carry an iPhone pro and an iPad mini simultaneously in real life - it’s not exactly the same as carrying a rucksack filled with rocks.
This is a strange story. I read this as meaning that this phone would solve some problems in general, not problems with other folding phone implementations. So this was click bait, methinks.
Anyway, I am only commenting here because of the duplicitous title not because I have any interest in a rumored to be $2K plus over sized phone/tablet thing. I hope it works for Apple, because I have little to no interest in it, but I am not the target audience apparently.
Anyway, I am only commenting here because of the duplicitous title not because I have any interest in a rumored to be $2K plus over sized phone/tablet thing. I hope it works for Apple, because I have little to no interest in it, but I am not the target audience apparently.
ProbablyDylan
macrumors 68040
Just imagine how fingerprinty that plastic inside screen is gonna get. I think you're gonna love it.
Veinticinco
macrumors 68020
I don’t know who the target audience is, and I doubt Apple do either. It has no genuine USP.
It’s the sort of product you’ll look at out of curiosity in the Apple Store, but have no compulsion to even consider purchasing.
Veinticinco
macrumors 68020
Never mind all the lint and other particles it’ll collect in there. Step forward, the Apple Polishing Cloth!
Octavius8
macrumors 65816
Crease-gate.
Apple can't make a 1gen device better than a 7 gen device from soooo many other brands. Even the notch and finger print reader under display PROBLEMS have not been solved by Apple yet. But anyway the crease is not a blocking issue for 99% of the users, just YouTubers will complain.
Apple can't make a 1gen device better than a 7 gen device from soooo many other brands. Even the notch and finger print reader under display PROBLEMS have not been solved by Apple yet. But anyway the crease is not a blocking issue for 99% of the users, just YouTubers will complain.
The iPhone IS the semi-pocketable tablet. That is the pro is already big in a pocket and the Max is barely pocketable. For most the idea of ANY iPad in a pocket isn't practical. Sure, I know there are some extra big pocket cargo pants but that's the exception. So I guess most figure that when they decide to use an iPad over an iPhone it's because they want the size.
Whereas I immediately assumed the title meant vs problems with existing folding phones. I guess pretty much any title can be confusing depending on where one is coming from.
WarmWinterHat
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I guess. I don't actually consider the mini pocketable except in a coat. I don't even consider the pro max pocketable.
Either way, the mini is still a nice size.
Agree, it has its place with the right people. Nice to have choices. I was just giving my take on why the majority don't gravitate toward the mini iPad. Interesting, I never even thought of a coat pocket. I'm in Arizona now and so we don't wear those 😉
Happy_John
macrumors 68000
The iPad mini is a brilliant form factor for one thing - reading, whether ebooks, notes, emails, or data read-outs.
That’s why people buy it, and the only reason Apple still make it is because people buy it.
I’ve always surprised that Apple never did anything more with the form factor - either lower the specs and the price, or up the specs and the price.
It sells purely because of the size, but its price makes no sense at all. That people spend more money than a base iPad for a smaller screen than a base iPad, but not significantly better specs, does show the form factor works for enough people for Apple to keep it in the line-up.
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Happy_John
macrumors 68000
Yeah, I don’t like the “max” size. Too big to be a phone, not big enough to be a small tablet.
klasma
macrumors G4
klasma
macrumors G4
Though it's better than a bigger top bezel for me. Now if they can have the camera under the display somehow then clearly that's best.
klasma
macrumors G4
If “bigger screen” weren’t a user story, we’d still be using a 4” screen.
Fair comment. I guess it depends on how you approached it when you first saw the title.
klasma
macrumors G4
If you fold 16:9 in half, you get 8:9, almost square. Conversely, if you double 16:9, you get 16:18, almost square as well. Apple made the outer screen more square so that the inner (larger) screen can be less square. That way the inner screen is better for movies and gaming than most competing foldables.
klasma
macrumors G4
Not having a continuous screen would disqualify it for streaming and most gaming.
Happy_John
macrumors 68000
Yes, except that implies people will unfold it to use the better screen ratio. People generally don’t do that with phones, they grab it out of the pocket and check what they want to check.
The fold is added user friction, an extra step before they get to what they want to do. Maybe people will be happy to do so. I have a suspicion that most people who buy folding phones, after the first week or two of the novelty, end up using only the outer screen 90% of the time.
It’s similar to the extra friction of opening up a MacBook compared to picking up an iPad with face ID - only a small amount, but it night turn out to be just enough friction to make people not open the fold more often than they do.
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