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iPhone Ultra's Price Range Revealed
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I think you are underestimating the amount of people with enough disposable income for it to not matter if their phone costs 1k or 2k USD, or where it’s a company work tool that is valued completely different.
lilkwarrior
macrumors 6502a
It’s not. Athletics itself is at at an all-time high and they use screens and tech more than ever as well out of common sense.
Kids in America are in a problematic situation not having healthy relationships and foundations with technology like other countries with tech illiteracy being a major problem.
The top secure jobs are tech oriented more than ever; more advanced screens are needed to maximize their efficiency compared to analog experiences that spatial computing provides
lilkwarrior
macrumors 6502a
…Foldable phones are easier to hold and more versatile for one hand and especially two handed use.
Earlier gen foldables may be notably thicker when folded sure; more recent are negligibly thicker.
Foldable-optimized apps don’t work the way you’re describing on Android, so why would they on iOS? That’s a scaled non-foldable-optimized app experience you’re describing.
Also that is also not the case with responsive Web sites as well which are prioritized sites for Web devs to provide and market.
Common phone tasks such as taking group photos are more superior in foldables as well with subjects able to see themselves exactly as they are framed and so on.
If you overthink when to fold and unfold your phone, that is a personal problem and premature without using one for an extended period of time.
That’s a good problem to have to maximize what technology provides rather than the notable limitations slab have for most things a pocket computer would more ergonomically provide foldable phones provide.
lilkwarrior
macrumors 6502a
Not as versatile nor will have as quality components with the one iPad variant that does (iPad Pro) just as expensive or more expensive.
Slix
macrumors 68000
The regular iPhone 16 (and every larger phone before it) is too wide for me to easily type one handed or reach things at the upper middle or top of the screen. Why would a wider phone that folds be better?
I don't see how Apple's design language would change that much for a foldable iPhone compared to what they have across every other system already, which consists of a lot of big text and buttons and white space around everything. If they make the buttons and everything smaller when folded (on a smaller screen), wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a design like that compared to a regular iPhone?
I could be wrong about all of this, but I really don't see why this design for a phone would be beneficial. I want to be able to pull my phone out quickly and not have to fiddle with opening it and closing it every time I want to do anything that requires a little more space. At that point I'd rather just pull my laptop out of my bag to do some bigger-screened work.
lilkwarrior
macrumors 6502a
…Many don’t a want to for what’s supposed to be on-the-go convenience of pocket computers towards why foldables exist as well as the core values proposition of the iPad mini to keep things Apple.
“Fiddling” with opening and closing a foldable is again a personal problem and often alleviated over time.
A book-style foldable phone provides the benefits of a medium sized phone as far as one hand use and simultaneously the convenience of bigger phones but even better with their unfolded state enabling the benefits of a landscape aspect ratio screen that small tablets like iPad mini provides contextually that can be stowed in their pocket.
That device may not be for your pocket computer needs and that’s fine—especially if even the regular iPhone is too wide for your liking (Apple has ample data in the billions what works for most).
An iPhone foldable are for segment of existing iPhone Pro Max users that are still held back fundamentally from a phone slab form factor vs something that can can be a mini tablet contextually as far as their on-the-go/monike computing needs.
That’s pretty darn convenient for productive-oriented and creative mobile users.
Foldables are not for modest pocket computer users in the same way Ultrawides, iPad Pros, Vision Pros, and prosumer desktops aren’t for most people.
Amazing Iceman
macrumors 603
Display too small to be suitable for intensive use, unlike my iPad Pro 13".
But I'm not going to make judgement right now, I'll wait until it launches and I get to hold it in my hands.
I may change my mind, heheh!
Amazing Iceman
macrumors 603
Your comment is very narrow minded. I agree with you that people can be like Zombies attached to their phones 24/7 playing games or watching TikTok videos instead of socializing with people around them.
But that's not always the case. Many of us here run a business and use our phone to do real work. In my case, I support over 40 networks and need to be alert to any notifications I may receive from their routers and firewalls.
Plus, I manage and coordinate service installations and need to stay in touch with project managers and other teams.
This is why in my case, I may seem constantly attached to my phone. Do I like it? I don't, but for now I have no choice.
I am working on getting an AI assistant to do handle this, so I can have my peace back.
My business focused Z Fold7 has turned out to be an exemplary tool that’s raised my productivity and opened up new possibilities within my workflow. An amazing and rewarding investment.
ppdix
macrumors 6502a
You can't compare a 13" device to this. THat's why there is an iPad mini and a 10" iPad too. This will be just right for some since it will be with you all the time.
Well if this price holds at least it's cheaper than the Vision Pro and it doesn't look like a scuba mask.
lilkwarrior
macrumors 6502a
Completely different product categories serving completely different purposes.
The Vision Pro has a laptop-class APU, an even more advanced screen, and a chip dedicated to spatial computing which has timelessly been one of the most complex forms of computing humans to realize to date for over sixty years.
Spatial computing glasses and contacts which are far more comparable are in their infancy of being viable anywhere close to the computing depth of a smartphone.
Note standalone versions would have to cost even more than any book foldable that has existed so far.
A glasses equivalent of the Vision Pro would have to cost thousands more today.
It would take years before that could change.
I have been in three accidents in 2 years and I have never been in an accident for over 20 years before then. All three occurrences the other driver was distracted with their phone. Got them on dash cam just getting into my lane. I am so sick of people using their devices.
The Game 161
macrumors Nehalem
It’s not cheaper though. If you carry a pro and an iPad Pro or even a pro max and an iPad mini it’s still cheaper or will be
lilkwarrior
macrumors 6502a
Anecdotal trauma shouldn’t cloud judgement on the matter when there’s tech to avoid that issue and also justify screens as a safer and more efficient means of using a vehicle (Heads-up displays or HUDs as well as conversational UI breakthroughs via AI to keep driver’s eyes on the road)
Go to any restaurant or doctors office. People are literally on their phones nonstop. It is a fact. TikTok generation is CONSTANTLY on the phone. This isn't some niche I am talking about. Foldables just make this matter worse.
Fortimir
macrumors 6502a
I agree with your entire post. My remarks were specifically to the user I quoted in that price only tells part of the story.
I think even at $2000+ the iPhone fold is going to sell remarkably well. Phones are an established product category that almost everyone has interest in, and it's been stagnant enough that people are excited for something new from Apple. People also already have a general idea of the idea of a phone/tablet hybrid is something that even interests them and will be of use.
TracesOfArsenic
macrumors 65816
I'm not disagreeing with you on it being a better UX. I hate FaceID on my phone (on my MBP though, that's another story). What I'm more interested in is how Apple spin going back to TouchID when the big deal about FaceID was how much more secure it was.
