iPhone Unlikely to Adopt AMOLED Display in Foreseeable Future

[69Mustang]

but the biggest issue is I demand black text on a white background and if you start doing that on an AMOLED screen like Samsung you have to have white text on a black background on the battery will drain in twice the speed - which is not acceptable. I don't want to half my battery life and I don't want white writing on a black background,

I'm confused. Where are you getting this white text on black background thing? You've said it in a couple of posts now. Have you seen the current state of Android? It's primarily iOS with a darker tan; with a lot white backgrounds and primary colors. Even Samsung's TouchWhiz is more in line with Lollipop. Not sure what Samsung you're talking about. Not sure about the battery thing either but that a topic for another day.

 

[Tom-Helge]

But i have the ****ing Galaxy S6 i see exactly. I only see over saturation. And blue is the ******** colour on amoled.

Maybe you should change the color mode to 'Basic' before you speak?

That's the most color accurate mode on any smartphones today. Again, that's a fact according to DisplayMate who are professionals in the screen calibration market.

Galaxy Note 4 (that was my phone before the Galaxy S6 edge+ i have now), the Galaxy Note 5, Galaxy S6, S6 edge and the Galaxy S6 edge+ all have 4 diffferent screen modes to choose from.

 

[John Mcgregor]

Maybe you should change the color mode to 'Basic' before you speak?

That's the most color accurate mode on any smartphones today. Again, that's a fact according to DisplayMate who are professionals in the screen calibration market.

When i change to basic whites become yellows and all colours change dramatically and unnaturally. On a normal display you shouldn't have such settings at all.

 

[Tom-Helge]

When i change to basic whites become yellows and all colours change dramatically and unnaturally. On a normal display you shouldn't have such settings at all.

Then i'm afraid you have a bad screen. My Galaxy S6 edge+ screen doesn't have any issues at all.

And yes, on a normal display you should be able to change color modes, because someone likes more colors on the screen over others. We have the choice to choose the color mode that suits us best.

Not only that, but if you have root access, you can use this to fine tune the colors even more on your screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/dev-kcal-advanced-color-control-t3032080

 

[John Mcgregor]

Then i'm afraid you have a bad screen. My Galaxy S6 edge+ screen doesn't have any issues at all.

And yes, on a normal display you should be able to change color modes, because someone likes more colors on the screen over others. We have the choice to choose the color mode that suits us best.

Not only that, but if you have root access, you can use this to fine tune the colors even more on your screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/dev-kcal-advanced-color-control-t3032080

I will go to a store tomorrow to check some other amoleds, but it seems unlikely.

 

[jonnysods]

I was kind of hoping to see a switch sooner or later. Won't that get them a little thinner and a lot more battery? Plus we could use it in the sunlight right?

 

[John Mcgregor]

I was kind of hoping to see a switch sooner or later. Won't that get them a little thinner and a lot more battery? Plus we could use it in the sunlight right?

Battery thing is a myth and if its really bright the difference is not so big.

 

[Michael Goff]

I was kind of hoping to see a switch sooner or later. Won't that get them a little thinner and a lot more battery? Plus we could use it in the sunlight right?

iOS doesn't have a lot of deep black colors, it is a lot of white colors. So there wouldn't be a lot of battery gain, if any.

 

[John Mcgregor]

iOS doesn't have a lot of deep black colors, it is a lot of white colors. So there wouldn't be a lot of battery gain, if any.

Strangely on Galaxy S6 almost all of the UI is white. Settings app, Chrome, Memos, Calculator, Sound Recorder, Maps, Youtube and the list goes on. They themselves don't believe that has any substantial impact on battery.

 

[Michael Goff]

Strangely on Galaxy S6 almost all of the UI is white. Settings app, Chrome, Memos, Calculator, Sound Recorder, Maps, Youtube and the list goes on. They themselves don't believe that has any substantial impact on battery.

The S6 has crappy battery life.

 

[John Mcgregor]

The S6 has crappy battery life.

It does, but no thanks to display. I tried all black themes and the results are in 3-5% range. Basically could be anything such as network fluctuations.

 

[Michael Goff]

It does, but no thanks to display. I tried all black themes and the results are in 3-5% range. Basically could be anything such as network fluctuations.

::shrugs::

My point was more that switching to SAMOLED wasn't going to give any meaningful battery gain anyway. I wasn't even saying it was going to go down.

 

[69Mustang]

::shrugs::

My point was more that switching to SAMOLED wasn't going to give any meaningful battery gain anyway. I wasn't even saying it was going to go down.

Not necessarily though. You're judging AMOLED efficiency based on it being used on Android. Apple's hardware/software integration could have a significant battery impact. Apple already gets more life out of smaller batteries because of that integration. It seems a bit short sighted to judge the viability of AMOLED on iOS without taking integration into consideration.

 

[Michael Goff]

Not necessarily though. You're judging AMOLED efficiency based on it being used on Android. Apple's hardware/software integration could have a significant battery impact. Apple already gets more life out of smaller batteries because of that integration. It seems a bit short sighted to judge the viability of AMOLED on iOS without taking integration into consideration.

Except a majority of the gains are based on the fact that you don't have to turn on backlight for the color black. If you have a fully white screen, those gains aren't really there.

 

[dannys1]

I'm confused. Where are you getting this white text on black background thing? You've said it in a couple of posts now. Have you seen the current state of Android? It's primarily iOS with a darker tan; with a lot white backgrounds and primary colors. Even Samsung's TouchWhiz is more in line with Lollipop. Not sure what Samsung you're talking about. Not sure about the battery thing either but that a topic for another day.

The battery thing is there for anyone to see even on the displaymate advert posted earlier - its finally now on par with LCD for mixed usage, but LCD still kills it in terms of showing all white. Granted OLED kills LCD for showing all black, as in that case OLED is just "off".

If Samsung has ditched the black text on white background that I apologise for getting that wrong and if the iPhone could employed the technology without having to employ anymore black backgrounds for battery issues then fine, go with it. It would need to be better than the OLED screen on the Watch though which to my eyes at least suffers from all the issues i've seen with every mobile OLED screen i've seen so far, jagged edges on some text, and contrast which seems to harsh to the eye.

Maybe in 4 years time OLED in mobile devices might be actually perfect and ready to move onto, or perhaps the crystal nano technology in LCD's that Samsung is working with at the moment will make it into mobile devices and prove to be a cheaper and better option. At the minute i'm perfectly happy with the screen on my iPhone though to be honest, not once have I looked at it and thought it could be more colourful or higher resolution.

 

[TheHateMachine]

Apple should stick with LCDs for as long as AMOLED still has horrible colour reproduction and fake number of pixels. I much prefer seeing natural colours and not oversaturated mess.

Some OEM's calibrate their AMOLED displays towards oversaturation and use different subpixel arrangements.

This must mean all AMOLED displays are bad.

Sound logic there chap.

 

[NT1440]

Any proof Apple's displays cost more? I was assuming they don't, but if you have PROOF, please show so I can change my mind on this one...

Look at any teardown, you think things like force sensors just get picked off the shelf and glued on a display?

Read, and apply to the phone design process: http://mashable.com/2015/10/28/apple-phil-schiller-mac/#moYV4luhakq0

 

[RockSpider]

Interesting move by Apple. I've have the Edge+ right now...and have had over 20 phones this year, and The Edge+/Note 5 are the best screens I've EVER! EVER! EVER! seen on smartphones before! I think anyone who owns one can agree with that.

I'm just trying to get a deal on a Note 5, that is one beast of a phone.

 

[newdeal]

I gotta say, I really don't care. Both look great to me. The only thing I care about is which one gives better battery life when viewing normal content, aka webpages which are mostly white. I do not want an all black user interface

 

[JoeyD74]

I had a note 5 test drive phone for a few weeks and the screen on it was much better than my 6s plus. It wasn't fake looking like the ones I've looked at in Best Buy, I didn't know you could adjust it at all though.
My iPhone just looks dull comparing the two side by side.
Hopefully apple ups their game soon.

 

[AX338]

Just sold my Note 4 for an iP6+....love the 'snappy clean' OS but miss my bright colourful screen. iPhone with super amoled would be great.

 

[RockSpider]

Right now AMOLED sucks(because Apple hasn't got it) when Apple gets it, it will be the best thing ever. Just like phablets sucked(because Apple didn't have them, now they're the best ever.

 

[dk001]

No it isn't it has horrendous energy consumption for white pixels - and iOS is mostly white and bright colours, there's no way i'm going to a white text on blackground Samsung world just to get equal battery performance with an LCD screen.

Its flawed mobile technology, its great in prob OLED form on TV's.

I expect Apple will eventually employ nano crystal LCD type technology in a mini form, but at the minute I don't see the point in the iPhone screen changing at all, its perfect to my eyes.

Try reading the quote below. You are flat out incorrect.

Here, let the professionals teach you something about this: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note5_ShootOut_1.htm

The facts is right there. Super AMOLED screens today are the absolute best screens out there.

Here is something from that link:
The Galaxy Note 5 matches or breaks new records in Smartphone display performance for:

Highest Absolute Color Accuracy (1.4 JNCD), Highest Peak Brightness (861 nits), Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (183), Highest Screen Resolution (2560x1440), Highest (infinite) Contrast Ratio, and Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (24 percent). In addition, almost every display lab test and measurement shows some improvements compared to the Galaxy Note 4, the previous record holder, including slightly lower Screen Reflectance (4.7 percent), an 18 to 23 percent improvement display Brightness, and a 21 percent improvement in display power efficiency, so the Note 5 display actually uses less power than the Note 4 in spite of its much higher brightness.

In short, even when the IPS LCD screen on the iPhone 6S Plus is pretty good, it still doesn't even comes close to how good the screen on the Galaxy Note 5 / Galaxy S6 edge+ is.

 

[Jess13]

Personally I'm happy about it, I honestly think that Android phone screens look worse.

 

[kmanmx]

Holy crap the amount of people in here that think IPS is better than OLED is shocking. IPS is not better than OLED, anyone that thinks so is years behind. Go back several years and you would have had a valid point, OLED color accuracy was poor, it had a short life span, muddy whites at low brightness and so on. This is no longer true, any and all professional display review sites will tell you the AMOLED screens in the Galaxy S6 and Note 5 are the best screens in the world. Not just mobile displays, but the best display of any type. If you adjust the color settings, they have the ability to be phenomenally color accurate with very low Delta E figures, way below the dE 2 benchmark. Anything below 2 is generally believed to unnoticeable to the human eye in terms of color error. The iPhone 6 does also score very well on color accuracy, but it can not match AMOLED on contrast, black levels and so on. IPS is an inferior technolgy in every way other than life span and cost. That's a fact. Get over it for those of you who refuse to accept this fact.

A lot of people here are confusing OLED tech with the default color profiles on a lot of Android OLED devices. Which is basically super saturated, unnacurate, very vibrant color settings. Joe Public likes this. Nice intense colors. But OLED does not have to be like this. It's just as if not more capable than IPS screens at being extremely color accurate.