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iPhone Unlikely to Adopt AMOLED Display in Foreseeable Future

John Mcgregor said:
Seriously? The colours in the picture will be different due to camera sensor not being your eye and compression to jpg.
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Seriously. I'm not looking for color accuracy rather showing that the color hue of the white changes by setting. On a white screen, it isn't much but it's there.

Then again I have seriously over and over again hearing from so many that the 6S/6S+ camera is so color accurate... 🙄


StyxMaker said:
De gustibus non disputandum est.

You can't argue with taste.

Poster was stating a personal preference for the LCD screens. Personal preferences are just that and have nothing to do with anything you may think proves one screen technology to be better than another.
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True. One should not use personal taste as a substitute for standardized testing. 😉
 
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Rhonindk said:
Seriously. I'm not looking for color accuracy rather showing that the color hue of the white changes by setting. On a white screen, it isn't much but it's there.

Then again I have seriously over and over again hearing from so many that the 6S/6S+ camera is so color accurate... 🙄




True. One should not use personal taste as a substitute for standardized testing. 😉
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Why not? I have personal preferences for screens, brightness, devices, and do not care what tests prove what screens, brightness, or devices are 'best'. The ones I prefer are best for me and my uses.
 
I'm sick of iPhones with dark corners, uneven displays, yellow splotches (NOT warm displays, I like warm, but I mean displays with random yellow splotches), and random dark spots.

If they don't want to either adapt their display technology or at least improve their quality control vastly, it may be time to move on from the iPhone.
 
Tom-Helge said:
I'm pretty sure you are talking about the 'Manual Brightness' here. You can't put the brightness up to 861 nits by adjusting it manually. You will end up a little under 600 nits with manual adjusting of the brightness. So yeah, Anandtech is correct when they say the brightness is around 580 nits.

The 'Auto brightness' mode allows the brightness to go all the way up to 861 nits.
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Actually no. Manual brightness I believe will only push it to between 300-400 nits. AnandTech had Auto Brightness on which is how they got their number. How DisplayMate got their number by only using a minuscule part of the display leaving the rest black or "off". However with a normal APL which I think is usually greater than 70% it will never come close to that.
 
GoodWheaties said:
Actually no. Manual brightness I believe will only push it to between 300-400 nits. AnandTech had Auto Brightness on which is how they got their number. How DisplayMate got their number by only using a minuscule part of the display leaving the rest black or "off". However with a normal APL which I think is usually greater than 70% it will never come close to that.
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Edit: I want to make sure you know I'm not trying to attack you, but this appears to be a misconception people have with AMOLED. They can only hit max brightness if the APL ( Average Picture Level if you were wondering) is fairly low. With LCD all the screen is lit up all the time so this isn't an issue. Reading from DisplayMate's review at 100% APL even the Note5 can only manage just over 400 nits (they didn't say if Auto was on). I believe this is one of the leading factors that is keeping Apple with LCD. Let's all hope microLED comes soon 🙂
Whoops that was not supposed to be a reply but oh well
 
Tom-Helge said:
I have had the Samsung Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note, Galaxy S4, Galaxy Note 4 and now the Galaxy S6 edge+. None of those older phones have had any screen burn-ins. And i had the phones all from 1 year and up to 2 years before i changed them.

The burn-ins most likely comes from either old arguments about the technology or a bad / faulty screen.
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well that's your opinion, and no it wasn't faulty.. all amoled screens eventually burn in.
 
GoodWheaties said:
Edit: I want to make sure you know I'm not trying to attack you, but this appears to be a misconception people have with AMOLED. They can only hit max brightness if the APL ( Average Picture Level if you were wondering) is fairly low. With LCD all the screen is lit up all the time so this isn't an issue. Reading from DisplayMate's review at 100% APL even the Note5 can only manage just over 400 nits (they didn't say if Auto was on). I believe this is one of the leading factors that is keeping Apple with LCD. Let's all hope microLED comes soon 🙂
Whoops that was not supposed to be a reply but oh well
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Again, you are wrong. This was said in the DisplayMate link about the Galaxy Note 5 screen.....

More importantly, on the Galaxy Note 5 the Maximum Brightness can go much higher when Automatic Brightness is turned On, so that users can’t permanently park the Manual Brightness slider to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly. High screen Brightness is only needed for High Ambient Light, so turning Automatic Brightness On will provide better high ambient light screen visibility and also longer battery running time.

Even the Galaxy Note 4 i had earlier had 750 nits in brightness when the 'Auto brightness' mode was used. This was said about the Galaxy Note 4's brightness from DisplayMate.....

When Automatic Brightness is turned On, the Galaxy Note 4 reaches an impressive 750 cd/m2 in High Ambient Light, where high Brightness is really needed – it is the brightest mobile display that we have ever tested. As a result of its high Brightness and low Reflectance, the Galaxy Note 4 has a Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light that ranges from 100 to156, the highest that we have ever measured for any mobile display.

So if you believe that the Galaxy Note 5 screen are worser than the Galaxy Note 4 screen, i'm afraid you are totally wrong.

And i have been looking at an iPhone 6 Plus with the brightness at max outside in sunlight and compared it to my Galaxy Note 4 and the new Galaxy S6 edge+ i have now. The iPhone 6 Plus doesn't even comes close to be as bright as the Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy S6 edge+ is. Not by a long mile.

EDIT: The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus does have 550 nits in brightness according to DisplayMate as you can read here: http://www.displaymate.com/iPhone6_ShootOut.htm. So their measuring is correct between the different phones out there.
 
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duction said:
well that's your opinion, and no it wasn't faulty.. all amoled screens eventually burn in.
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None of my friends that have a smartphone with a Super AMOLED screen have never had any burn-ins on their screens. So i believe it's a fact as it's extremely few i know about that have had that problem.

Maybe they burn in after a while, but after that while it have gone so many years that it doesn't matter at all.
 
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Tom-Helge said:
I have had the Samsung Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note, Galaxy S4, Galaxy Note 4 and now the Galaxy S6 edge+. None of those older phones have had any screen burn-ins. And i had the phones all from 1 year and up to 2 years before i changed them.

The burn-ins most likely comes from either old arguments about the technology or a bad / faulty screen.
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I've got an S2 and a S3 handset here (for dev purposes never used either as a phone) horrible devices, i mean they feel really miles away from what Apple was doing at the time, the S6 is the first time they've caught up and it can now be considered a matter of taste. The screens on the S2 and S3 are bloody awful.
 
I actually really prefer my iOS screens to other android devices i have compared it too. I do agree black and dark colours on iOS are not reproduced as well, but the brightness and colour gambit is fine for me.
 
Tom-Helge said:
Again, you are wrong. This was said in the DisplayMate link about the Galaxy Note 5 screen.....

More importantly, on the Galaxy Note 5 the Maximum Brightness can go much higher when Automatic Brightness is turned On, so that users can’t permanently park the Manual Brightness slider to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly. High screen Brightness is only needed for High Ambient Light, so turning Automatic Brightness On will provide better high ambient light screen visibility and also longer battery running time.

Even the Galaxy Note 4 i had earlier had 750 nits in brightness when the 'Auto brightness' mode was used. This was said about the Galaxy Note 4's brightness from DisplayMate.....

When Automatic Brightness is turned On, the Galaxy Note 4 reaches an impressive 750 cd/m2 in High Ambient Light, where high Brightness is really needed – it is the brightest mobile display that we have ever tested. As a result of its high Brightness and low Reflectance, the Galaxy Note 4 has a Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light that ranges from 100 to156, the highest that we have ever measured for any mobile display.

So if you believe that the Galaxy Note 5 screen are worser than the Galaxy Note 4 screen, i'm afraid you are totally wrong.

And i have been looking at an iPhone 6 Plus with the brightness at max outside in sunlight and compared it to my Galaxy Note 4 and the new Galaxy S6 edge+ i have now. The iPhone 6 Plus doesn't even comes close to be as bright as the Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy S6 edge+ is. Not by a long mile.

EDIT: The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus does have 550 nits in brightness according to DisplayMate as you can read here: http://www.displaymate.com/iPhone6_ShootOut.htm. So their measuring is correct between the different phones out there.
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My apologies. I figured that DisplayMate used the same APL for that as they did for normal peak brightness. I couldn't find anywhere where they specified how they reached that. Since you happen to have access to both devices, could you share some knowledge about how long it is able to sustain that extra brightness and are there any repercussions from that (heat, significant battery decrease, etc.)
 
Tom-Helge said:
None of my friends that have a smartphone with a Super AMOLED screen have never had any burn-ins on their screens. So i believe it's a fact as it's extremely few i know about that have had that problem.

Maybe they burn in after a while, but after that while it have gone so many years that it doesn't matter at all.
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What a load of *****, it's a well know issue with amoled no matter how many of your mum's, dogs best friends auntie has had a phone that hasn't had burn in. The resale value is next to nothing when it's got images burnt into the screen. Burngate will be very real.
 
GoodWheaties said:
Edit: I want to make sure you know I'm not trying to attack you, but this appears to be a misconception people have with AMOLED. They can only hit max brightness if the APL ( Average Picture Level if you were wondering) is fairly low. With LCD all the screen is lit up all the time so this isn't an issue. Reading from DisplayMate's review at 100% APL even the Note5 can only manage just over 400 nits (they didn't say if Auto was on). I believe this is one of the leading factors that is keeping Apple with LCD. Let's all hope microLED comes soon 🙂
Whoops that was not supposed to be a reply but oh well
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"You believe" - Is not enough evidence for me, sorry. AMOLED is far superior, and a premium apple product should have it.
 
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Berti10 said:
AMOLED is going the Future of Displays but last week I went to best buy and opened a blank page on an SG S6 and on my 6. The difference was night and day. IPS still look soooooo much better!
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There's no way the iphone screen looks better than the Amoled from the S6/Edge/Plus/Note5. I have them all and the difference is night and day. AMOLED is better at everything: contrast, brightness, colour accuracy, better whites and blacks,even power consumption.
The S6 you've testes was probably faulty. It's quite possible as Samsung QC is terrible (i've returned 4 phones until i got one with a perfect screen, the first 2 had pink-ish whites, the last 2 had some uniformity problems).
 
Futurix said:
Apple should stick with LCDs for as long as AMOLED still has horrible colour reproduction and fake number of pixels. I much prefer seeing natural colours and not oversaturated mess.
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The colors can be toned down to natural color saturation.

Starting with the note 4 Samsung has a display mode called basic which makes the whites stand out so it has a more natural tone to it.

Apple could do something similar..
 
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MacBH928 said:
So which is better, AMOLED or OLED?

A few years ago I heard OLED TV s the future for displays, high contrast, much better colors and very low energy consumption but I believe one of the RGB colors dies quickly.
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The difference between OLED and AMOLED is marketing. AMOLED means Active Matrix OLED. Every single OLED screen - from smartwatches to TVs - is active matrix.
 
kdarling said:
Green screens rule!

(For that matter, it should be round, too! My first microprocessor graphic output device was an old round green Heath oscilloscope, for which I built a D/A X-Y-Z interface circuit to display vectors.)
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and pair that to a Honeywell KB with keys up to F24 😀 TMF!!

Too Much Fun
 
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