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iPhone update in December this year- 20GB, 3g, thinner, lighter

Don't feed the Troll

Have the number of newbie troll posts risen significantly since the iPhone debut? Guess the windoz fan boys have nothing of interest to talk about.
 
If "the electronics are not changing", that would have to imply that the 3G brains are ALREADY in the current iPhones...

So has anyone determined if the UMTS/HSDPA features are hidden in the iPhone yet to be unlocked? I would not be surprised, and has been done w/other phones...


iansilv said:
I have now heard about this from 3 separate ATT stores in Los Angeles, from three different employees. They have all described, independently, a new updated Iphone to be released this year in December that will have the following changes:

1. about .75 oz lighter
2. 3G data
3. slighty- like 5 mm- thinner- same dimensions otherwise
4. Corporate email support- exchange and what not
5. 20gb storage

I mentioned that they would have to put it out with the FCC, and they said they could not have to because the radio and overall electronics are not changing, just the battery is being made slightly smaller (thinner and lighter.)

I am calling B.S. on this, its the kind of rampant obvious speculation that anyone can come up with (they will make it better, faster, lighter- no duh!) but the specifics and the independence of the rumor from multiple ATT people made me want to post it here. Has anyone else heard anything like this?
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iansilv said:
I have now heard about this from 3 separate ATT stores in Los Angeles, from three different employees. They have all described, independently, a new updated Iphone to be released this year in December that will have the following changes:

1. about .75 oz lighter
2. 3G data
3. slighty- like 5 mm- thinner- same dimensions otherwise
4. Corporate email support- exchange and what not
5. 20gb storage

I mentioned that they would have to put it out with the FCC, and they said they could not have to because the radio and overall electronics are not changing, just the battery is being made slightly smaller (thinner and lighter.)

I am calling B.S. on this, its the kind of rampant obvious speculation that anyone can come up with (they will make it better, faster, lighter- no duh!) but the specifics and the independence of the rumor from multiple ATT people made me want to post it here. Has anyone else heard anything like this?
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why post this, if you think its BS???
 
iansilv said:
I have now heard about this from 3 separate ATT stores in Los Angeles, from three different employees. They have all described, independently, a new updated Iphone to be released this year in December that will have the following changes:

1. about .75 oz lighter
2. 3G data
3. slighty- like 5 mm- thinner- same dimensions otherwise
4. Corporate email support- exchange and what not
5. 20gb storage

I mentioned that they would have to put it out with the FCC, and they said they could not have to because the radio and overall electronics are not changing, just the battery is being made slightly smaller (thinner and lighter.)

I am calling B.S. on this, its the kind of rampant obvious speculation that anyone can come up with (they will make it better, faster, lighter- no duh!) but the specifics and the independence of the rumor from multiple ATT people made me want to post it here. Has anyone else heard anything like this?
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I don't believe 4 of those 5 things.. so I am going to say bogus.

In case you were not around before the iPhone launch, every day for months we heard lies and stories told by AT&T employees about the iPhone. Clearly the Coroprate Sales motto is "When In Doubt Make Crap Up."

So I suspect that is exactly what you are experiencing.

How exactly do you think they are going to offer a 20 gig model?
 
Passante said:
Have the number of newbie troll posts risen significantly since the iPhone debut? Guess the windoz fan boys have nothing of interest to talk about.
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Hey I am a windows fanboy, but I have the iPhone to talk about. :)
 
Compile 'em all said:
The iPhone is already relevant now without 3G. I am about 99% sure that
the European iPhone v1.0 will sport NO 3G.
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....because they don't have EDGE in the UK so their internet will either be archaic or 3G. No 3G here isn't THAT much of a big deal, because many of us haven't had a 3G phone. No 3G in England will be like asking them to go from a T1 line back to dial up.
 
mrowl said:
why post this, if you think its BS???
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Because I wante dto find otu if anyone else had heard anything that specific or had any other information to add. Is that so hard to comprehend?
 
No, SJ said "AT THE TIME THEY WERE DESIGNING THE IPHONE" the 3G chipsets were too big and consumed too much power.

This was something like a year ago (or earlier). Things change very quickly in this sector, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are currently shipping (or about to ship) chipsets that would work well within Apple's size and power requirements.
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Oh, good grief :rolleyes: Jobs said a lot of junk. It's all marketing spin, like half the other iPhone myths.

Lots of other phones were designed during the same time period, but they have 3G, and they do just fine. It had nothing to do with available chips.

Apple didn't include 3G simply because they didn't see any profit in it at the time. Bluntly put, their initial market is mostly people who've never had a smartphone and would be happy with any speed.

Of course, choosing AT&T also meant there wasn't a lot of reason to go 3G. I guarantee that a Verizon iPhone would've had it.
 
kdarling said:
Oh, good grief :rolleyes: Jobs said a lot of junk. It's all marketing spin, like half the other iPhone myths.

Lots of other phones were designed during the same time period, but they have 3G, and they do just fine. It had nothing to do with available chips.

Apple didn't include 3G simply because they didn't see any profit in it at the time. Their initial market is mostly people who've never had a smartphone and wouldn't know high speed from low speed.
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Ahh, no I disagree. I seriously doubt that they reasoned that WTF it doesn't matter what we put in here as most of the fanatically faithful won't care about high or low speeds.:confused: I think it was a reasoned and calculated decision and probably had to do with power consumption. My Treo 750 quits at about 4pm if I have a day of heavy emailing the 3G data usage.
 
kdarling said:
Oh, good grief :rolleyes: Jobs said a lot of junk. It's all marketing spin, like half the other iPhone myths.

Lots of other phones were designed during the same time period, but they have 3G, and they do just fine. It had nothing to do with available chips.

Apple didn't include 3G simply because they didn't see any profit in it at the time. Their initial market is mostly people who've never had a smartphone and wouldn't know high speed from low speed.
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It may have ALOT to do with the available chips. Maybe they want to only use Qualcomm? Would be good for Apple right about now.

Also my iPhone outlast ANY 3G smartphone I have used and I use the iPhone MUCH more. Something was sucking the battery down.
 
D1G1T4L said:
It may have ALOT to do with the available chips. Maybe they want to only use Qualcomm? Would be good for Apple right about now.

Also my iPhone outlast ANY 3G smartphone I have used and I use the iPhone MUCH more. Something was sucking the battery down.
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Qualcomm chips... just pay their fee, like Verizon is doing.

Sucking battery... WiFi does that as well, virtually the same amount as 3G does. So why have WiFi instead? Because it's cheaper, that's why. And, no doubt, more prevalent in the area coffee shops where it was designed ;)

As I said in my later edited post (boy you guys are fast!) , you know for sure that a Verizon branded iPhone would've had EVDO 3G, no matter what.

Cheers and thanks for the mellow responses.
 
I can't believe I didn't stop this post earlier. I work for Apple and am currently working on the iPhone 3.0 (the 2.0 is scheduled to release in Dec). The 3.0 is going to be 1/2 the size and run EVDO on the att network, yea it is possible.

It will also have a built in 120GB hard drive as well as a user replaceable PCB (alot of people requested this). Please don't read this post as I could get fired.

Sincerely,

Steve Jobs.
 
The other day my best friend's mom's cousin's poodle barked something that sounded exactly like "new iPhone coming soon". You heard it here first.
 
kdarling said:
Qualcomm chips... just pay their fee, like Verizon is doing.

Sucking battery... WiFi does that as well, virtually the same amount as 3G does. So why have WiFi instead? Because it's cheaper, that's why. And, no doubt, more prevalent in the area coffee shops where it was designed ;)

As I said in my later edited post (boy you guys are fast!) , you know for sure that a Verizon branded iPhone would've had EVDO 3G, no matter what.

Cheers and thanks for the mellow responses.
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Pay the fee and raise the price for the phone just for 3G? It isn't worth THAT much IMO. I am happy to wait for the dust to settle and better chips to be developed. I'm sure not everyone has that opinion and that is fine. I just don't need super fast speeds with my phone.

As far as having a Verizon iPhone...........I would have been VERY happy if Verizon would haven't declined the iPhone. Have no problem supporting another part of the company ;)
 
kdarling said:
Oh, good grief :rolleyes: Jobs said a lot of junk. It's all marketing spin, like half the other iPhone myths.

Lots of other phones were designed during the same time period, but they have 3G, and they do just fine. It had nothing to do with available chips.

Apple didn't include 3G simply because they didn't see any profit in it at the time. Bluntly put, their initial market is mostly people who've never had a smartphone and would be happy with any speed.

Of course, choosing AT&T also meant there wasn't a lot of reason to go 3G. I guarantee that a Verizon iPhone would've had it.
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Right... Because you know exactly what Apple's engineers were thinking, and there's absolutely no truth to the (apparently) false rumors that 3G chipsets would have made the iPhone larger and suck up more power.

So I guess this is total BS too :rolleyes:

Yup, not a single shred of technical reasons to leave out 3G. Only a deep-seated desire on Apple's part to shove cr@p down people's throats while laughing all the way to the bank. Yup, they're evil, and we should all boycott them :rolleyes:

Have you ever stopped to think that leaving out 3G could have been a COMBINATION of various factors, INCLUDING one of yours? It's not an "all or nothing" situation, where you're the only one that's right and everyone else is wrong.
 
mcdj said:
The other day my best friend's mom's cousin's poodle barked something that sounded exactly like "new iPhone coming soon". You heard it here first.
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LOL:D

I don't know even why I read these random threads anymore about new iPhone features the next one will have from somebody's head.
 
I really hope apple does not come it with a new an improved version with in a years time of the originals release. If apple was to do that I would be pretty sick! At least if they wait for a year It will justify my purchase of this model. I doubt apple would realese an improved version in December, its too soon in my opinion.
 
monkey wrench

I call bs on any rumors of an upcoming Apple product release. That info rarely leaks out this early.

That said, I have a pretty reliable source that is working on an EDGE update targeted for implementation in (ironically) December. Take this "rumor" as you wish, but I'll believe an engineer over an att store rep anyday.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 3g phone 1Q08, but just not on this side of the pond.

As a side note, to date, battery technology cannot practically support this device using 3g. My blackjack rarely lasted 12hrs of normal use and i reverted to EDGE to preserve battery life. Good call on Apple's decision to wait it out..imho.
 
Why do some people think there won't be a new iPhone for two years. Why won't apple update it regularly just like the rest of their products?
 
Goldenbear said:
Right... Because you know exactly what Apple's engineers were thinking, and there's absolutely no truth to the (apparently) false rumors that 3G chipsets would have made the iPhone larger and suck up more power..
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I'm 54 years old. I've been doing reverse engineering and comparisons for 30 years. And I've written my share of PR to make up for stuff that the beancounters left out.

As for sucking power, so does WiFi, hi-res screens, special zoom effects, you name it. But they had no problem leaving those in, because they were relatively cheap.

So I guess this is total BS too :rolleyes:.
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Well, yeah, it is. Possibly one of the most childish reports I've ever seen, comparing apples to grapes, and coming up with warped conclusions.

Taking the simplest case: if they'd just used the hi-capacity battery that the Blackjack came with, their results would've been quite different. But that wouldn't have fit their agenda, which was to apologize for Apple.

The upshot is, yes of course Apple is in it for the money. :)
 
Fake?

Found this on MacBidouille.
It looks like (?) that the 3G iPhone will be released in November.
 

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This is IMO an obvious fake. See how they talk about iPod instead of iPhone in the flyer? See page 2 for more discussion.
 
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