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TouchWiz 4 is amazing. No lag at all. The Exynos processor is very smooth and responsive and the screen looks great, colors pop. The icons are essentially the same (if that's what's holding you back from buying the phone that's weird :cool: ). Plus, the GS3 is coming out soon which will be better than the One series.

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Not necessarily true. I, for example, like my GS2 and plan on getting the GS3 and not switching back to the iPhone which is nothing more than a trendy device. Apple did say to "think different".

Samsung Galaxy S3 should be the best phone of the year but after watching sense 4 videos and reviews on youtube, it won't matter much to take a step down and go with HTC phones rather than Samsung. It's more touchwiz than samsung, there is the option of rooting android phones and putting stock ICS but I have no experience with rooting, sticking with a good sense 4 android overlay is sufficient for me.
 
Samsung Galaxy S3 should be the best phone of the year but after watching sense 4 videos and reviews on youtube, it won't matter much to take a step down and go with HTC phones rather than Samsung.

Until the new iPhone comes out with a CPU that will bury the S3 in benchmarks (as the 4s did the S2) a better GPU, a better camera, higher ppi display, an updated Siri and who knows what else. It will also easily outsell the S3 as well.
 
LOL. I find this post most humorous, because I happen to have a MBP on Snow Leopard, an iMac on Lion and an HP running Windows 8 Metro beta.

Deleting a file on a Mac is no different than Windows 7. Click and drag to the trash or right click and send to trash. You found that difficult? Just wait till you try Windows 8 for the first time! Holy crap you are gonna have a tough time.

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yep, Touchwiz is as good as iOS in terms of reliability, smoothness and responsiveness, assuming you have a higher end piece of hardware like the S2, Note or Nexus.

Nope. Coming from a galaxy s2 to iPhone. Touch wiz, besides being a super lame UI, is NOT as smooth or fluid as ios. No Android UI was as smooth as iOs, and I tired them all. They worked for sure, but not as smoothly.

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Oh, and everyone who is saying that apple's hardware is outdated and that they will be obsolete soon - wake up. Apple invented the modern day touch screen smartphone with the iPhone. It has taken android, what, 3/4 years to almost catch up on terms of speed and UI presentation? Compare the original g1 with the original iPhone and it's like night and day.

iPhone is still king of the smartphone world, and will remain so. Just because you feel they are not tickling your fancy, don't be fooled into thinking that ye other x million iPhone fans/users feel the same way.
 
Nope. Coming from a galaxy s2 to iPhone. Touch wiz, besides being a super lame UI, is NOT as smooth or fluid as ios. No Android UI was as smooth as iOs, and I tired them all. They worked for sure, but not as smoothly.

I have both an iphone4 and a non-rooted Galaxy S2 Skyrocket. I guess my Android phone must be 'magical' because it runs as smooth as the iphone. I also have my Touchpad running ICS and it runs extremely smooth as well, considering CM9 is an alpha build! In fact, it runs faster and smoother than my jailbroken ipad2, but that might have something to do with the TP's CPU.

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Oh, and everyone who is saying that apple's hardware is outdated and that they will be obsolete soon - wake up. Apple invented the modern day touch screen smartphone with the iPhone.

Actually, the LG Prada had the first capacitive touch screen and 'modern' smartphone. It was a pos, but it was the first. In case you were wondering, that stain around your mouth is kool-aid.
 
I have both an iphone4 and a non-rooted Galaxy S2 Skyrocket. I guess my Android phone must be 'magical' because it runs as smooth as the iphone. I also have my Touchpad running ICS and it runs extremely smooth as well, considering CM9 is an alpha build! In fact, it runs faster and smoother than my jailbroken ipad2, but that might have something to do with the TP's CPU.

Okay. Again I'm not saying the s2 wasn't usable, but in terms of lag and smoothness of UI and transitions, IMO it didn't hold a candle to ios.
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Actually, the LG Prada had the first capacitive touch screen and 'modern' smartphone. It was a pos, but it was the first. In case you were wondering, that stain around your mouth is kool-aid.

I didn't say the iPhone was the first. I said it invented modern touchscreen smartphones, which I stand by. The lg Prada didn't set the standard that all other phones strove for. The original iPhone set that standard.

Granted, invented might have been the wrong word choice for the point I was trying to make, but you can't deny that the iPhone started the trend that is now today's smartphone market.
 
I didn't say the iPhone was the first. I said it invented modern touchscreen smartphones, which I stand by. The lg Prada didn't set the standard that all other phones strove for. The original iPhone set that standard.

Granted, invented might have been the wrong word choice for the point I was trying to make, but you can't deny that the iPhone started the trend that is now today's smartphone market.

When you say Apple invented modern day touch screen phone, you are attempting to rewrite history in Apple's favor. I like Apple, I have 3 ATV2's and a new ATV3, an iMac, a MPB, 2 ipads and 2 iphone4's, along with my Android and Windows products, but I don't get carried away and put Apple up on high, above all others.

I agree that Apple has set the standards for laptops, all in one desktops, smartphones, tablets and mp3 players. Unfortunately, Apple really hasn't invented much, just refined and made better. And they are responsible for bringing the average user the mouse, usb, thunderbolt, etc... But lets not say things like they invented the modern smartphone, capacitive touch screens or the like
 
When you say Apple invented modern day touch screen phone, you are attempting to rewrite history in Apple's favor. I like Apple, I have 3 ATV2's and a new ATV3, an iMac, a MPB, 2 ipads and 2 iphone4's, along with my Android and Windows products, but I don't get carried away and put Apple up on high, above all others.

I agree that Apple has set the standards for laptops, all in one desktops, smartphones, tablets and mp3 players. Unfortunately, Apple really hasn't invented much, just refined and made better. And they are responsible for bringing the average user the mouse, usb, thunderbolt, etc... But lets not say things like they invented the modern smartphone, capacitive touch screens or the like

Fair enough. I'm not trying to rewrite history in Apple's favor, I absolutely admit they didn't "invent" the first touch screen smartphone. They just made the best one, and years before anything else even started to come close.

And my original intention in raising this point was that the iphone is not going anywhere anytime soon. Is the LG Prada still going strong and claiming a huge share of the smartphone market? Nope. Maybe I should edit my original statement to read "Apple invented the first usable touch screen smartphone that anyone actually liked and wanted more of."

In other words, for the purpose of my argument for the lasting power and relevancy of Apple/iPhone - I maintain that they invented what is today's modern touchscreen smartphone.
 
I want to announce that I am going to switch over to android very soon. I am interested in the HTC one S.

I am tired of this old, boring wall of applications that suppose to represent an OS. I have been using iOS for I think its 4 years now and its basically the same back then as it is now. They basically ripped off some features from android and put it in ios. Well it definitely improved the OS but its still boring and stale.

I can only assume you wrote this on a Mac forum in order to get a reaction!

I feel the same as you and have recently moved to Android - its fantastic and I actually prefer my Galaxy S2 to my 4S.

However, something I've also learned is its easy to switch across (apart from buying apps again). So I'm now going to simply choose what I fancy. If Apple bring out something new and exciting, I'll go back. And if Samsung or someone bring out something even better, I'll jump to Android again.

A phone isn't for life, so just pick what you fancy.
 
iOS is limiting the ways you can function because it appeals to the lowest common denominator: your parents/grandparents/non tech people. This means any moron in the world can use an iOS device. Android? Not really. You have to have working neurons to use an Android device. It requires you to think. You have to be able to understand widgets, microSD cards, hardware buttons, and how Android works in order to use it.

Stuff like the above will never cease being complete nonsense regardless of how many times someone posts it (yes, I know, I read the rest of your post..BUH BUH BUH I SWEAR I LUV AH-PHONE!)

It takes brains to own an Android phone? Sure, widgets are extraordinarily complicated. Hardware buttons? Seriously? I can't even imagine what kind of circles someone needs to hang out with in order to know people who find hardware buttons on a phone challenging. My god - Blackberry people must be INCREDIBLY SUPER SMART! Ah bet they all are buildin time machines in their basements with all them fancy buttons on their phone!

Let's put all that aside for a moment, here's why statements like these miss the boat: a vast majority of the people who use iPhones *use* their phones vs tinker with them. There are people who, believe it or not, need their phones to run their lives, their businesses, etc. The point of their life is not to sit there and flash ROMs, download 5 billion free apps, or obsess over benchmarks. Smart people using their smartphone to get things done. This is true of Android too, incidentally. And Windows, and Blackberry. The difference is many millions have discovered that the iPhone allows them to get things done faster, more efficiently than other platforms and with a minimum of fuss. Also, life is more convenient when your phone fits in your pocket vs needing a backpack to carry it around.

P.S. you're going to have to update your Android talking points, as many who support the platform online have been insisting Android is every bit as easy and intuitive as iOS to pick up.

Now you'll have to excuse me, I have to go ask Siri how the sun got so high in the sky without using a ladder.
 
Can't we all just get along? As an iPhone and an Android owner, I can honestly say that I love them both. Each has their own unique advantages and disadvantages. It's whatever floats your boat in the end. :)
 
I am not some iPhone fanboy. I actually hated the iPhone and have had 7 Android phones over the past 3 years. Before you go running off to Android, you may want to think about its biggest problems. Not getting your device supported or updated for starters. You got a problem? Google doesn't care, neither will your carrier. They are in too big of a hurry trying to rush out the next version of the OS (that your phone will never see) or too busy trying to market their new phone to snag new contracts. There are currently 1443 Android phones (let that sink in a minute) and do you know how many are running the newest OS thats been out for over 5 months? THREE phones and one of those actually launched with it. What a pathetic joke. 65% of those phones will never even see the update because the phone is either no longer supported (although within their 2 year contracts still) or no longer capable of running the OS. The vast majority of those phone are stuck on an OS TWO years old and can't even download the newer apps from the market or get a fix for their problems. Check this out

http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/05/is-the-iphone-fragmented-ios-adoption-measured-against-android/

“iOS 5 captured approximately 75% of all iOS users in the same amount of time it took Gingerbread to get 4% of all Android users,” Sauve wrote in his analysis on pxldot. “Even more astounding is that 15 weeks after launch iOS 4 was at 70% and iOS 5 was at 60% while Ice Cream Sandwich got to just 1% share at the same age. If there were any question as to whether iOS had a less fragmented ecosystem than Android, the past two charts provide a fairly definitive answer.” Sauve continued, “iOS devices have, on average, reached 10% version share 300 times faster than Android versions, 30% share 19 times faster, and 50% share 7 times faster.”

Here is another good recent article to read about the mess Android has become

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-sorry-state-of-android-hardware-fragmentation/19427
 
Can't we all just get along? As an iPhone and an Android owner, I can honestly say that I love them both. Each has their own unique advantages and disadvantages. It's whatever floats your boat in the end. :)

I actually agree with this, which is why I find the notion that one OS is "smarter" than the other to be silly. I actually think the Galaxy S2 is the best smartphone on the market as of this moment.
 
I actually think the Galaxy S2 is the best smartphone on the market as of this moment.

What makes you say that? The iPhone 4s easily beat it in benchmarks although having an "inferior" CPU, the 4s has a higher resolution screen with a much better ppi count, the S2 is still running an OS thats well over a year old, and the S2 has worse battery life than the 4s. I fail to see how thats even in the ballpark let alone best smartphone on the market.
 
What makes you say that? The iPhone 4s easily beat it in benchmarks although having an "inferior" CPU, the 4s has a higher resolution screen with a much better ppi count, the S2 is still running an OS thats well over a year old, and the S2 has worse battery life than the 4s. I fail to see how thats even in the ballpark let alone best smartphone on the market.

I find it's a great example of what Android looks like when it "just works.". I like Touch Wiz. The screen isn't as good as the 4S but very good shouldn't be the enemy of great. It is extraordinarily fluid and fast, and while build quality is typical Samsung plastic it has a great profile that's comfortable to hold and yes, pocket. It's camera is top notch and probably equal to the 4S, if the latter is better its not discernible to the naked eye.

Yes, battery sucks. Absolutely. The one chink in the armor.
 
I never had an issue with updates. While I might not of had the latest OS everything still worked. Old and new apps run fine. Apps that work on ICS also work on my Honeycomb and Gingerbread devices.

There was a time I just felt like I had to have the latest update. But it was unfounded I just wanted the latest and greatest version number. That's the way most people are. They just want the biggest version number but have no idea what it does.

Putting ICS on older phone is a bit of an issue for a lot of reasons. One of which is the end user. There is a lot of changes from gingerbread to ICS. People that aren't into phones and get pushed the ics update will have to relearn a lot of things. I'm surprised there is as many phones as there is on the ics list.
 
Stuff like the above will never cease being complete nonsense regardless of how many times someone posts it (yes, I know, I read the rest of your post..BUH BUH BUH I SWEAR I LUV AH-PHONE!)

It takes brains to own an Android phone? Sure, widgets are extraordinarily complicated. Hardware buttons? Seriously? I can't even imagine what kind of circles someone needs to hang out with in order to know people who find hardware buttons on a phone challenging. My god - Blackberry people must be INCREDIBLY SUPER SMART! Ah bet they all are buildin time machines in their basements with all them fancy buttons on their phone!

Let's put all that aside for a moment, here's why statements like these miss the boat: a vast majority of the people who use iPhones *use* their phones vs tinker with them. There are people who, believe it or not, need their phones to run their lives, their businesses, etc. The point of their life is not to sit there and flash ROMs, download 5 billion free apps, or obsess over benchmarks. Smart people using their smartphone to get things done. This is true of Android too, incidentally. And Windows, and Blackberry. The difference is many millions have discovered that the iPhone allows them to get things done faster, more efficiently than other platforms and with a minimum of fuss. Also, life is more convenient when your phone fits in your pocket vs needing a backpack to carry it around.

P.S. you're going to have to update your Android talking points, as many who support the platform online have been insisting Android is every bit as easy and intuitive as iOS to pick up.

Now you'll have to excuse me, I have to go ask Siri how the sun got so high in the sky without using a ladder.

3 year olds are using the iPad.

Go let 3 year olds or technologically inept senior citizens use Android OS.

Oh wait they don't they only use iOS because its simple.

iOS works for many people because its simple, not much depth, not much thinking, just slide to unlock and use the device. There are also many people who want more with their device, a more intricate interface with added functionality and less restrictions. That's when Android OS comes in handy and is the prime reason why I am moving to Android.
 
3 year olds are using the iPad.

Go let 3 year olds or technologically inept senior citizens use Android OS.

Oh wait they don't they only use iOS because its simple.

iOS works for many people because its simple, not much depth, not much thinking, just slide to unlock and use the device. There are also many people who want more with their device, a more intricate interface with added functionality and less restrictions. That's when Android OS comes in handy and is the prime reason why I am moving to Android.

What do you want to do on Android that you can't do on the iphone?
 
3 year olds are using the iPad.

Go let 3 year olds or technologically inept senior citizens use Android OS.

Oh wait they don't they only use iOS because its simple.

iOS works for many people because its simple, not much depth, not much thinking, just slide to unlock and use the device. There are also many people who want more with their device, a more intricate interface with added functionality and less restrictions. That's when Android OS comes in handy and is the prime reason why I am moving to Android.

You mean there are developers who have created apps specifically for 3 year olds to use on an iPad. Yes, probably. 3 year olds aren't managing entire businesses with their iOS devices. You're being disingenuous.

A "more intricate interface," eh? What does that mean? You do a special handshake with your device before swiping left or right? You do understand these words you're stringing together don't really mean anything, yes? But I'm sure you'll enjoy your new Android handset. You can intricately use it more intricately and feel better about the whole thing. ;)
 
Windows 7 improved on Windows XP so much, I can see Apple having steady success with iPhones because its a main brand but expect Macs to decline with Windows 7 being a much better OS and Windows 8 attracting much more people.
The ONLY reason the Mac will decline is because of the popularity of the iPad. MS will always sell more PCs than Macs but the iPad is a really different story.
 
You mean there are developers who have created apps specifically for 3 year olds to use on an iPad. Yes, probably. 3 year olds aren't managing entire businesses with their iOS devices. You're being disingenuous.

A "more intricate interface," eh? What does that mean? You do a special handshake with your device before swiping left or right? You do understand these words you're stringing together don't really mean anything, yes? But I'm sure you'll enjoy your new Android handset. You can intricately use it more intricately and feel better about the whole thing. ;)


I love how some people act like Android is so complicated and advanced and so much more complex than iOS. They are icons that launch apps, same *****. Just because you can move them around and add widgets doesn't mean it's any better or takes some advanced knowledge iphone users dont posses to use.
 
I love how some people act like Android is so complicated and advanced and so much more complex than iOS. They are icons that launch apps, same *****. Just because you can move them around and add widgets doesn't mean it's any better or takes some advanced knowledge iphone users dont posses to use.

Bingo. I also find it amusing that someone would find it impressive if an interface is more difficult to use. That's not really what any designer is going for.
 
Without Jail breaking it, how? As it stands they seem to be stuck in a grid.

I don't think I should have to JB my phone just to move a few icons around like I would on a desktop.

You don't have your desktop set to align to grid? Anyway the ability to free float icons is not a deal breaker for me and is the least hindering aspect of performing tasks on a mobile smartphone. If that is your dealbreaker than I wonder what you bought a smartphone for. Your priorities are not the same as mine hence your preference for android. I cannot fault you for your choices as you cannot fault mine. Can we close this thread now?
 
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