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iPhone Users Demonstrate Strong Loyalty with Planned Retention Rate of 89%
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Ok, no kidding.
But if it happens 15 years down the road, will you still claim you were right?
This whole "But one day Apple won't be cool anymore" talk is hilarious. It's an obvious statement to make (usually for those who have nothing left to argue with), but it's really only meaningful if it'll happen next month or next year.
I never said it wasn't a good phone. I said this is an aspect of Android that you don't have with iOS. With iOS, I'm stuck with Apple. With Android, I can move freely from manufacturers.
Why should he be any less entitled than you are?
Not that it matters - your memory of anything earlier than 2007 is non-existent. So I'm sure by 2015 you won't remember him or his post either
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I'll be one of the Android users jumping ship. Have an HTC phone and overall it's just meh. Have had several problems with it and Android is a bit of a mess. Also, support for Android phones is all over the place. My phone was discontinued less than a year after its release.
Of course, as i would - in fact - be right! I didnt say it would happen soon, or even in the next 5 years. In fact, i made it explicitly clear that it could be quite some time. It will, however, happen quite fast once it does. At least if we are to believe that Apple will follow the pattern of others. As these things usually "just happen", guessing is just stupid.
Troll less, think more. Ok, LTD?
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I, unfortunately, think Android is here to stay. At best, MSFT can marginalize them... which, however, would also mean that we end up with a MSFT dominated market.
Technology can change on a dime. In 15 years? There could be something TOTALLY new/different from some company that might be small or non existent now - but who hits the market full force.
Who can really say.
true that. but until then, as long as Google is Google, we probably have to deal with Android being around
Erm? I don't dispute any of the fact Apple apps work on Apple devices only? Did you not read my post? Or perhaps it's because it was aimed at another person you didn't understand my point?
And as I stated, no sales person will tell you Apple apps ONLY work on Apple products, I'm not just talking about Apple stores but the hundreds of other places you can buy Apple products from also.
And what half of people switching? Are you talking about world wide or America? Either way I would like to see statistical facts and proof from somewhere like Reuters or Forbes or the FT. Your comment is not clear enough.
I would also add that if Apple don't launch a new iPhone with a bigger screen etc soon it will loose international market share, not talking about America, but the rat of the market.
Although personally I only want a iPhone the same size as the current one, as others have said I know a LOT of people who have ditched Apple for Android.
I mean even PLENTY of people on hear have been banging on about how Apple must launch a bigger screen iPhone this year.
I won't listen to what people on hear say as it's biased, what I see in the real world with unbiased choice is Android being picked.
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I love it.
"I'm not going with my personal experiences here; I'm going with my personal experiences there."
If a survey by UBS doesn't seem legitimate, why comment in this thread? At most, "I dismiss any survey not done by ________," would've sufficed. It's not as though people here are using poor logic, incorrect facts ("this only represents the US," "this doesn't represent Android as a whole") or even worse, vague, unmeasurable terms ("fanboy factor"?), to argue why the loyalty rate is so high for Apple iPhones compare to other manufacturers or operating systems.
As others have stated, the probably reason is the high quality of the devices and the depth to which people are entrenched in the iOS ecosystem, either through settings (on the device, home and/or work PC, etc.) or purchases (apps, Apple TV, iMac, etc.).
That doesn't mean that people won't get to the same point (really high loyalty rate) with Android once the experience is the same and extends across the ecosystem. It just means we aren't there now.
In an ironic note, now that the rest of my family owns and uses iOS products (why I finally made the switch from WM6.5 to iPhone 4), I can make the switch to Android or WP7 because no one needs my phone to entertain themselves anymore. I'm not trapped in the ecosystem because many of the apps I use are available on other platforms. Now what's keeping me with an iPhone 4 is that I'm not sure the experience with a Galaxy S II or Nokia WP7 (even the next iPhone) will be a change drastic enough to warrant such a move.
"I'm not going with my personal experiences here; I'm going with my personal experiences there."
If a survey by UBS doesn't seem legitimate, why comment in this thread? At most, "I dismiss any survey not done by ________," would've sufficed. It's not as though people here are using poor logic, incorrect facts ("this only represents the US," "this doesn't represent Android as a whole") or even worse, vague, unmeasurable terms ("fanboy factor"?), to argue why the loyalty rate is so high for Apple iPhones compare to other manufacturers or operating systems.
As others have stated, the probably reason is the high quality of the devices and the depth to which people are entrenched in the iOS ecosystem, either through settings (on the device, home and/or work PC, etc.) or purchases (apps, Apple TV, iMac, etc.).
That doesn't mean that people won't get to the same point (really high loyalty rate) with Android once the experience is the same and extends across the ecosystem. It just means we aren't there now.
In an ironic note, now that the rest of my family owns and uses iOS products (why I finally made the switch from WM6.5 to iPhone 4), I can make the switch to Android or WP7 because no one needs my phone to entertain themselves anymore. I'm not trapped in the ecosystem because many of the apps I use are available on other platforms. Now what's keeping me with an iPhone 4 is that I'm not sure the experience with a Galaxy S II or Nokia WP7 (even the next iPhone) will be a change drastic enough to warrant such a move.
No surprises there.
It would be nice if apple would take some notes from Android, make an option for it to be more open for advance users, so it can capture the entire market!
It would be nice if apple would take some notes from Android, make an option for it to be more open for advance users, so it can capture the entire market!
And it gets even worse if you use a custom launcher like ADW or Launcher pro because then jumping between device has zero effect on your UI as well.
Oh so very true. I have apps on my Android phone that I know there is no iOS equivalent of them and as such that would drive me nuts. iOS has some games but for the most part it is those specialty apps that seem to more lock people in.
Way to many people like you seem to think Android is all about flashing roms. You will find most android users might flight roms to play with it but long term they find something they like and stick with it. Hell on my phone I have played with other UI but find myself always falling back to the motoblur UI as something that just works that I like. Now I might go over to ADW because I do like how that one is set up but I just have not gotten around to it.
Really most people get things set up the way they like it and call it good. Heck a lot of people do not even root any longer. On my phone the only rooted app that I use on a regular bases is the ad blocking one. Other wise I really do not even need root.
As I indicated, I've own[ed] 2 Android devices, had 2 others on lengthy loans, used another 6+, develop for the platform. I know Android very well, both from a professional and personal/tinkering capacity.
All the ROMs I flashed were trying to fix hardware issues, remove the _horrific_ branded UI front ends, add some camera settings, etc. - that was the context of my post: my Android devices always seem to have something sketchy, and it's fortunate that there are "aftermarket" ROM that can fix problems. My OOTB experience has been mediocre, my customizing at least improved a few things.
Our iPhone 4, from my experience just seems to work. Fire up a geo/mapping app, and instant location lock, use the phone all day and no worries about battery life. No FCs, no MS Exchange problems. It doesn't have widgets, it doesn't allow custom icons, it requires the use of iTunes on occasion (I still have a love/hate with iTunes...), but at the end of day, with my incredibly busy lifestyle, I just need a phone to work. I also like the end-to-end service/support model from a single vendor.
I like what little I've seen of the SGS II, and it's being released in the US on AT&T on Oct 2nd, so I'll assess Apple's product(s) on Oct 4th and go from there.
I'll bet that 80% of the 89% would by the phone again even if it were just renamed and there weren't any changes made.
It's because we're all just sheep.
I prefer to think that it's because iPhone buyers are just smarter to begin with.
Sure 11% of the iPhone users will switch to something else. but they weren't above average intelligence to begin with, and needed to sink to a phone that better represented their social-class. In that regard, Android and the other OSes serve as a placebo for the unwashed masses lacking "taste".
[j/k]
Leave up to a Om Malik to point out the relevant info in these numbers. Apple's numbers are on the decline.
http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ubsphonesurvey2.jpg?w=604&h=239
http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ubsphonesurvey2.jpg?w=604&h=239
When you look at how much Apple's numbers declined versus other manufacturers, they've dropped considerably less. You have to remember at that time, there were few top notch android handsets on the market. The market is vastly different now than it was then. I would be surprised if android hadn't leeched some iOS users in between now and then.
Only 55% of android users plan to stay with android. Their choices right now are iOS, RIM and WP7. One of those is a platform in decline, one is in its infacy still, and the other is a proven leader. Which would you switch to?
I for one will have my loyalty supremely tested if the new iPhone turns out to be a just a slight improvement. I will seriously consider the Samsung S2
Numbers are a bit misleading. This article would have far more meaning if it compared iOS retention rate vs Android retention rate.
If you want an iOS based phone you have no choice, if you want an Android based phone you have dozens of options. Not saying that's bad or good one way or another, just that this fact makes comparisons like this pretty meaningless.
If you want an iOS based phone you have no choice, if you want an Android based phone you have dozens of options. Not saying that's bad or good one way or another, just that this fact makes comparisons like this pretty meaningless.
I guess that goes with the elitist attitude that the Average Steve Apple customers have.