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iPhone X and iPhone 8 Charge to 50% in 30 Minutes With Fast-Charge Feature

I've already got my USB C charger

found one on eBay a few weeks ago, 61W adapter brand new, 2m charge cable brand new, and that stupid extender that needs 3 prongs, $35 (did not come with a USB C to Lightning cable though)
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rafark said:
Let me get this straight, after paying 1200$ for the iPhone X, I'll also need to buy an external wireless charger? So the phone charges wirelessly but you can't out of the box? How's that for a 1200USD device to not include the charger for one of it's major features?! What logic is that?
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Remember though, Apple isn't priced just for the rich
 
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Do they support fast charging out of the box? Or do you have to pay extra for the fast charger?

Again other platfor.s have had this for years and they have had fast chargers in the box as standard.

Fast charging is not the same as Qi charging.

I can plug .y 2 year old phone jn and have it charge to 50% in 30 minutes with the standard charger that came in the box.
 
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I had to fight Apple to send me a 29w charger and a USB-C to Lightning cable for my iPad Pro 10.5 when I bought it.

I had a senior advisor tell me “it’s not listed for the device so I can’t even order it” so I had to fight for over an hour with them and finally I got one for free. Glad I did now but it’s absolutely ridiculous that a phone that’s $1149 dollars doesn’t include the proper adapter.

I hate being stuck in apples ecosystem. I really do. I feel like they can pretty much do whatever at this point and I’ll buy it.
 
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Welcome, Apple customers, to 2014.

Along with OLED and wireless charging, fast charging is something Android phones have had for a while.
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Kevlar said:
Pay a premium for a device. And they don't include the hardware to be able to utilize one of the largest features. Sad day.
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Wait. What?

The iPhone is only fast charge capable? Does it not come with a fast charger?
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profets said:
Cool that it has this, but I bet that 99.9% of users will never make use of it. How often do you suddenly need a high wattage block charger to get 50% in half an hour? I’m sure there’s a niche of users that would, but really not a big deal for the majority. As for bundling in the box, not sure if it’s a good idea that everyone is charging at such a high wattage when doing their daily charge.

Still cool anyway.
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Fast charging is the best. I no longer charge over night - I just plug in when I wake up. By the time I'm leaving for work it's at 100%.

And those times when you're going out for the night and realise you've only got 20% left, with the fast charger you're up to 50%+ in a matter of minutes.
 
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rGiskard said:
It's a nice feature for MacBook owners who already have the appropriate charger. But $50 minimum for an AC adapter that costs maybe $5 to manufacture is outright theft.
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That’s why we wait for the third-party solutions on Amazon. $9.99, shipped to your door.
 
borntrouble said:
I cant believe that there are still so many indoctrinated people on the forums actually defending the malignant price policy of Apple these days. Especially when I see this ostentatious theatre they have built with my goddamn money.
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Hope you filed a police report when Apple forced a gun on you and took your money.
borntrouble said:
They are really beginning to lose my sympathy here.
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Having sympathy for a corporation is why APPLE has your "GD MONEY". :rolleyes:
 
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Bye guys. Luv ya. iPhone X too expensive.

Android more feature. Less cost. Easier to get.

Wireless charging and 128gb card free. I'll be back for you iPhone, this is just a stop until next year

Just kidding. But really did this even after the X announcement. Hopefully I like it!
 

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Bobstein said:
Let's just take a breath for a moment. All models since 6s (except the SE) unofficially supported fast charging. All you had to do is lug it into an ipad charger. That allowed the 6s and above models to draw more power while regulating temps and other aspects at the source.
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Not quite right. What you're describing is the iPhone's ability to draw 10 watts (2A @ 5V) from either the 10w or 12w iPad chargers.

For the new 8/8 Plus/X (already available with iPad Pro 10.5 and both 12.9s), Apple is introducing "fast charging" which will likely mean 18 watts (2A @ 9V) or "best case" a full 29 watts (2A @ 14.5V). Note, for either 18 or 29 watt fast charging, you must use USB-C cable to Lightning, and have the appropriate USB-C Power Delivery controller in the destination device. It is unknown if the PD controller in the upcoming iPhones will negotiate either 18 or 29 watts, from appropriate chargers.

One other note about USB-C chargers, related to "fast charging" if iOS devices. As of now, Apple's own 61w/87w USB-C chargers only negotiate 18 watts (2A @ 9V) with iPad Pros, and presumably the new iPhones. To get the full/best "fast charging" with iOS devices, you need the 29 watt (2A @ 14.5V) USB-C charger that is available with the retina MacBooks.
 
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BeatCrazy said:
Not quite right. What you're describing is the iPhone's ability to draw 10 watts (2A @ 5V) from either the 10w or 12w iPad chargers.

For the new 8/8 Plus/X (already available with iPad Pro 10.5 and both 12.9s), Apple is introducing "fast charging" which will likely mean 18 watts (2A @ 9V) or "best case" a full 29 watts (2A @ 14.5V). Note, for either 18 or 29 watt fast charging, you must use USB-C cable to Lightning, and have the appropriate USB-C Power Delivery controller in the destination device. It is unknown if the PD controller in the upcoming iPhones will negotiate either 18 or 29 watts, from appropriate chargers.

One other note about USB-C chargers, related to "fast charging" if iOS devices. As of now, Apples own 61w/87w USB-C chargers only negotiate 18 watts (2A @ 9V) with iPad Pros, and presumably the new iPhones. To get the full/best "fast charging" with iOS devices, you need the 29 watt (2A @ 14.5V) USB-C charger that is available with the retina MacBooks.
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I was wondering if there was a difference between using the 29, 61 & 87 watt chargers.
 
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I was wondering if there was a difference between using the 29, 61 & 87 watt chargers.
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Yup. 61w/87w chargers don't support 29 watt output (2A @ 14.5V) because I think that violates USB-C Power Delivery specs. Somehow, Apple's 29w USB-C charger was grandfathered into the USB-C specs?
 
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borntrouble said:
I cant believe that there are still so many indoctrinated people on the forums actually defending the malignant price policy of Apple these days. Especially when I see this ostentatious theatre they have built with my goddamn money. They are really beginning to lose my sympathy here.
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It stopped being your money when you exchanged it for an Apple product in return. Now that it belongs to Apple it's its right to do with it as they please (within the law, of course). Apple isn't looking for your sympathy or friendship.
 
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Verita said:
That’s why we wait for the third-party solutions on Amazon. $9.99, shipped to your door.
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Teardowns and tests of third party chargers show that they're inferior in quality. They deliver less clean power, with a lot of noise in the voltage, and voltage regulation is poor. Some are even constructed less safely with poor separation of high and low voltage sections. Apple chargers also ramp down current differently than other chargers. Apple ramps down charging current more aggressively as the battery charges, perhaps to minimize thermal stress. Whatever the reason, it's best to assume the design was intentional.

Other quality branded chargers (Samsung, Dell, etc) exceed off-brands in voltage regulation and low noise but their charging current still ramps differently from Apple's.

In this one instance I do recommend we all suck it up and buy the Apple branded gear - and I'm a cheap bastard who will go 3rd party for almost anything. I'm looking for the study and will post a link if I can find it.

Edit: Found the study. I corrected my post because initially I misremembered a bit. The study is a bit old but I can't find anything newer.
 
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rGiskard said:
Teardowns and tests of third party chargers show that they're inferior in quality. They deliver less clean power, with a lot of noise in the voltage, and voltage regulation is poor overall and differs in how it ramps down compared to Apple chargers. It appears that Apple ramps down charging voltage more aggressively as the battery charges, perhaps to stress the battery less. Whatever the reasons, it's best to assume the design was intentional.

Other quality branded chargers (Samsung, Dell, etc) exceed off-brands in voltage regulation and low noise but they charging voltage ramps differently from Apple's.

In this one instance I do recommend we all suck it up and buy the Apple branded gear. I'm looking for the study and will post a link if I can find it.
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Most probablyapple will built some proprietary hardware that if you use other non apple charger, fast charging will not activate.
 
rGiskard said:
Teardowns and tests of third party chargers show that they're inferior in quality. They deliver less clean power, with a lot of noise in the voltage, and voltage regulation is poor. The cheap ebay chargers are even constructed less safely with poor separation of high and low voltage sections. They also differ in how they ramp down charging voltage compared to Apple chargers. It appears that Apple ramps down charging voltage more aggressively as the battery charges, perhaps to stress the battery less. Whatever the reasons, it's best to assume the design was intentional.

Other quality branded chargers (Samsung, Dell, etc) exceed off-brands in voltage regulation and low noise but they charging voltage ramps differently from Apple's.

In this one instance I do recommend we all suck it up and buy the Apple branded gear. I'm looking for the study and will post a link if I can find it.
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Agree, but I refer to Belkin, Anker, and similar quality products that are incredibly solid and better-designed.
 
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rjpv said:
Quite interesting to read concerns about the new phones not coming with the wireless charger. As someone else already mentioned, this is an extra accessory for pretty much every single other brand of phones. All of them, including these new beauties from Apple, come with regular wired chargers. Wireless charging even though is a great feature, it is also optional and therefore, you have to find the money to pay for it.
There is no other cable needed as well. Your old USB to lighting cable will work just as the brand new coming in the phone box.
Anyway, for those looking for Qi chargers, you can find them as cheap as US$15. You don't have to buy the brands that Apple tells you or show on screen. It is your choice and your money.
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Who is talking about wireless chargers?? Lol apple apologist.
 
Verita said:
Agree, but I refer to Belkin, Anker, and similar quality products that are incredibly solid and better-designed.
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Found the study, and I misremembered a bit. It's current, not voltage, that Apple ramps down on their charger. The reviewer didn't know what to make of it but my own take is that it's to charge the battery more gently with less thermal stress.

Belkin does not fair well in the testing.

Study.
 
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"That means the cheapest solution for fast charging is going to cost iPhone owners an additional $74."

Errr...no.

What you mean is it costs $74 extra if you buy APPLE charging kit.

I've bought an Anker QuickCharge 3 usb charger for $20 and can use my existing lighting cables.
 
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Absolutely terrific news. Keep overflexing, Apple.

See how far you can go and then ruin your ability to overprice for years to come.

Come on, there has to be more that you can squeeze out of the poor fella who buys into this mess.
And keep giving charming interviews about "we don't do it for the money" and all that jazz, Tim.
Last I heard people keep that in the back of their head when they configure their next Apple purchase.

Glassed Silver:ios
 
Chupa Chupa said:
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It stopped being your money when you exchanged it for an Apple product in return. Now that it belongs to Apple it's its right to do with it as they please (within the law, of course). Apple isn't looking for your sympathy or friendship.
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Then they should immediately stop pretending to do so, Sherlock.
 
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borntrouble said:
Then they should immediately stop pretending to do so, Sherlock.
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If you thought they were trying to be your pal then you have a lonely existence. Anyone that thinks any organization established to make money is trying to be friends for any purpose other than to glean money out of your pocket is naive or too young to understand adult life.

It may seem like "duh" to you, I don't know. Certainly OP thinks he still has a claim to money he spent.
 
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