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iPhone X Beats Samsung Galaxy S9 in Benchmarking Tests

Applemaniac7 said:
You seem very angry young sir, is that half a second saving when you open candy crush that important.?
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Since when is stating a fact being upset? It appears the Android/Samsung fans are the ones that are upset because the iPhone is more powerful. A fact that's clearly getting under their skin. Hence their need to resort to bogus tests to try and claim a win.
 
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deanthedev said:
They don't have better RAM management - they have more RAM.

You can't compare a device with 3GB RAM to one with 6GB RAM and state one is better because you don't know how either would perform if they had the same amount of RAM.
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The gs8 and gs9 both have 4gb ot ram not 6 and run a crap load more background services than iOS does.

Up until the iphone 7 apple was king of app management and was the most optimized os.
 
grkm3 said:
The gs8 and gs9 both have 4gb ot ram not 6 and run a crap load more background services than iOS does.

Up until the iphone 7 apple was king of app management and was the most optimized os.
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I think even iPhone 7 apps often refreshed. Always been the case in my usage in fairness.
 
grkm3 said:
The gs8 and gs9 both have 4gb ot ram not 6 and run a crap load more background services than iOS does.

Up until the iphone 7 apple was king of app management and was the most optimized os.
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Note 8 has 6GB RAM and was slaughtered by the iPhone 8. Regardless, my claim still stands. You can't say one device manages RAM better than the other if they have differing amounts of RAM. You can't separate out how much is due to actual management and how much is due to having more RAM.

Where's your source that the S8 and S9 run "a crap load more background services" than iOS? Do you have a list of those services for each that we can compare?
 
StellarVixen said:
Try to export the 4K video on both devices, try to not fall asleep while you wait for your Note 8 to finish. That's the off the top of my head.
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Lol honestly no one does this and the people who do should be using a 12 core gen 8 i9 intel setup.

It's funny how the goal posts keep moving as no review site ever encoded 4k videos as part of a bench mark but as soon as the samsung phones beat out iOS it gets added in to show the raw power on the chipset that no one ever uses.
 
StellarVixen said:
Do not change the subject, and do not try to move goalposts, we are talking about mobile devices here (smartphones, more exactly).
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You want to compare encoding times? Use the same app on both devices. There is no good encoding apps on android because no one does this.

By the way I'm willing to bet the exynos 9810 will beat out the x in encoding also but who cares.
 
grkm3 said:
Go look at videos of real world use of how fast a galaxy phone is. They trade back and forth and most apps run faster on samsung.
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Apps running faster/slower on Samsung/iPhone is the matter of optimization (one part is optimization from app developers, and other is due to OS itself). Since iOS 11 is a buggy mess, it is reasonable that some apps will be running a fraction of second faster on Samsung (still, SOME apps, Snapchat being opened 10ms faster on Samsung cannot tell you anything about hardware performance). I have also seen that wherever the resource intensive app was compared on both devices, the iPhone 8/8 plus/X was victorious. See "Alto's Adventure. And regarding the Exynos 9810 being better in video encoding: who knows, it might be. But again, it is competing against 6 month old chip. And I care. Whatever the results are, I accept them.

One more thing: I do not understand you Android fans, and your reluctance to accept the fact that Apple's chips are simply superior to anything that other manufacturers can offer. You had Gary from Android Authority explaining to you EXACTLY why is this so, yet you continue to live entrapped into some kind of cognitive dissonance. I, even as Apple enthusiast do understand some strong points of Android over iOS, such as better customization, some phones having more cool features than iPhone (Samsung's high res screen, SpO2 sensor, always on display), and I try to be objective as much as I can. You can try it too. It is not that hard.
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Applemaniac7 said:
Playing devils advocate, has anyone ever done this?
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Your browser cannot open links? I won't repeat myself.
 
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StellarVixen said:
Try to export the 4K video on both devices, try to not fall asleep while you wait for your Note 8 to finish. That's off the top of my head.
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Yeah that's the universal example, I even mentioned it earlier.
The thing is, it's not something the average consumer is going to be doing and those who do it would be better off with an iPhone or an iPad if that is a major for you.

Imagine you import a video, then someone calls you and sends you an important email with some large attachments, then you email them back and go back to your video editor but the imported file is gone, you have to start over.
Great.

What else?
Someone mentioned opening a PDF, I've had a look and it sub 1 second for the iPhone vs 6 seconds for a galaxy apparently yet I just opened a 67mb PDF in 3 seconds.

What tangible evidence do we have where we see the opposition getting "Slaughtered"?

So far it's a few niche actions and synthetic benchmarks..
 
trifid said:
The latest iPhone is always the fastest thing in the world, and then 1 year later either through iOS update or the amazing battery throttling, the phone somehow is a stuttery slouch.

I'd love to see iPhone X benchmarks after 1-2 years when the throttling kicks in and you lose 50-70% of the performance.
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Lol the iPhone X and iPhone 8 were build to avoid the battery issues. Please inform yourself.
 
grkm3 said:
Lol honestly no one does this and the people who do should be using a 12 core gen 8 i9 intel setup.

It's funny how the goal posts keep moving as no review site ever encoded 4k videos as part of a bench mark but as soon as the samsung phones beat out iOS it gets added in to show the raw power on the chipset that no one ever uses.
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https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-benchmarks-fastest-phone,review-4676.html

Only moving of goalposts are from Samsung fans trying to figure out how to game the benchmarks so they can get a win. Nothing like throwing out 40 years of accepted standard practice and creating useless “App races” as if they’re representative of a devices performance.
 
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Relentless Power said:
I would argue that the average consumer doesn’t even know what a benchmark is and would likely not care to even run one to determine the speed of their phone. You have to remember, everybody uses their phones differently for different tasks, the majority likely use the phones for banking apps, social media, gaming applications, etc. iPhones are powerful enough today where they’re not going to notice incremental increases every single year in performance. It also depends how often somebody upgrades even to recognize the potential of the speed increase of the phone they are using. For example, if someone upgradeds from an iPhone 6 to an iPhone X, clearly that will be a dramatic increase.



I’m not following your argument here. If somebody’s phone is getting slow, that can contribute to many different things, The processor may not be the blame at all, it could be the amount of ram the phone has as well and how are they maximizing the phone usage. They’re way too many considerations here to blame a processor for being slow.



The A11 chip is very powerful in the iPhone X. Even the A10X processor in the iPhone 7 is still incredibly powerful. iPhones in general have some of the best processors in the industry and they don’t get bogged down easily.
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Iphone 7 dosent have a A10X only A10 without X. The X version is used for the ipad.
 
LovingTeddy said:
Yet, iPad is completely limited by iOS. Still planets of app refresh, even with iPad Pro’s 4GB storage. My WeChat message doesn’t come in at all, Safari refreashes pages like crazy. I don’t know with all these power you guys claims to be, why iOS 11 is still such mess on iPads.

Samsung makes DEX, Huawei made its own version, Microsoft has continuum. With dex, at least you can run browser, your Facebook messagers, your Instagram and twitter at same time!! How is that? Can you do that with iPads?

Apple may have the edge on processor design and its processor maybe way faster than new processor from Samsung, Qualcomm or HiSlicon, that doesn’t matter. iOS still cannot take advantage of all these power and iOS is still mess. Apple need short out its OS and made iOS takes more advantage with that power. Otherwise, you can have all these good benchmark, but it is completely useless.
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iOS 11 is fantastic in my iPad Pro and my iPhone X.

You say limited, I say superior. I’ve owned Android and went 3 years between software updates and tons of functions,it’s just didn’t work. My S Pen didn’t do the basic advertised tasks consistently and some of them not at all. Atrocious battery life. Random shutdowns. Constant app crashing. Just an awful experience with zero support.
 
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Klyster said:
Yeah that's the universal example, I even mentioned it earlier.
The thing is, it's not something the average consumer is going to be doing and those who do it would be better off with an iPhone or an iPad if that is a major for you.

Imagine you import a video, then someone calls you and sends you an important email with some large attachments, then you email them back and go back to your video editor but the imported file is gone, you have to start over.
Great.

What else?
Someone mentioned opening a PDF, I've had a look and it sub 1 second for the iPhone vs 6 seconds for a galaxy apparently yet I just opened a 67mb PDF in 3 seconds.

What tangible evidence do we have where we see the opposition getting "Slaughtered"?

So far it's a few niche actions and synthetic benchmarks..
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You clearly don’t understand the purpose of encoding a 4K video.

It’s not because everyone encodes 4K video on their phone. It’s because it’s a stress test of the device. It requires a lot of computational power to accomplish and also takes time. Meaning the CPU is going to rapidly heat up and expose issues like thermal throttling vs time.

This is the whole purpose of running benchmarks - to stress something to its limits and see what it’s capable of.
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grkm3 said:
You want to compare encoding times? Use the same app on both devices. There is no good encoding apps on android because no one does this.

By the way I'm willing to bet the exynos 9810 will beat out the x in encoding also but who cares.
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Bingo. No good Apps on Android. At least we agree Android is garbage for Apps. All the truly powerful high-end Apps are on iOS. Especially for the iPad. Which is why the 9810 is a complete waste running inferior watered down Apps all the time.

The 9810 won’t beat the A11 in encoding. Not a chance even if they were both optimized. The A11 is simply more powerful than the 9810. This is a basic fact.
 
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trifid said:
Agreed, benchmarks are useless here, I would like focus on scrolling stuttering, keyboard delays, and other slow down anomalies that start happening after the 1-2 year mark. Macbooks can last 5-8 years without these annoyances, yet iPhones fail misserably.
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I feel like its similar to desktop computers, in that they just kinda get bogged down with junk over the years and slow down. Even when I had a Mac I would do a clean reinstall of the OS every year just to keep things running smoothly. Unfortunately there isn't really an easy way to just wipe the OS on a phone and start from scratch like you can with a Mac/PC. Doing a factory reset on a phone isn't really the same as just completely wiping the memory and doing a clean install.
 
deanthedev said:
You clearly don’t understand the purpose of encoding a 4K video.

It’s not because everyone encodes 4K video on their phone. It’s because it’s a stress test of the device. It requires a lot of computational power to accomplish and also takes time. Meaning the CPU is going to rapidly heat up and expose issues like thermal throttling vs time.

This is the whole purpose of running benchmarks - to stress something to its limits and see what it’s capable of.
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Bingo. No good Apps on Android. At least we agree Android is garbage for Apps. All the truly powerful high-end Apps are on iOS. Especially for the iPad. Which is why the 9810 is a complete waste running inferior watered down Apps all the time.

The 9810 won’t beat the A11 in encoding. Not a chance even if they were both optimized. The A11 is simply more powerful than the 9810. This is a basic fact.
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So nothing tangible except video encoding?
I thought so.
Slaughtered? Hyperbole much?
 
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