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I hope the 2018 iPhones have 4gb RAM or more just because it's makes the $1000 price easier to swallow.
 
I have no idea how people will be okay with that notch. Either way, more power to the early adopters for picking up the iPhone X..
You guys will be the testers to get the kinks out for the better phone next year!
 
So Apple.
Mean on RAM as always.

Don’t tell me more RAM is no use.
For one, it’s more future-proof.

3GB for iPhone 8 and 4GB for 8 Plus and iPhone X would be much more user friendly.

So fed up with the pricing and meager RAM of Tim Cook.

Why do you need 4GB of RAM on an iPhone? This guy is living in 2021! :)

so X beat 8 plus in any function ??

battery better
display better
design better
privacy better

Wait is fair :D

Battery could be slightly less than iPhone 8 Plus and privacy is depndant on the OS not the phone. The display though, should be amazing.

I hope the 2018 iPhones have 4gb RAM or more just because it's makes the $1000 price easier to swallow.

It’s possible, but probably unlikely. In 2018 in would be unnecessary and would only slap another $50 on the phone’s price.

I’ve also been wondering how the heck they will handle 2018. iPhone and iPhone Pro? 8S? iPhone 9 and iPhone XI? I wish they would have stuck with 7S, which would have given them 4 years more until they had to address the issue.
 
I do like the increase in battery life. An additional 2 hours will do wonders.
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I hope the 2018 iPhones have 4gb RAM or more just because it's makes the $1000 price easier to swallow.

Actually the iPhones are very efficient with its use of memory. My iPhone 6 has 1 gb and still works pretty well. 3gb is a dramatic improvement.
 
I do like the increase in battery life. An additional 2 hours will do wonders.
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Actually the iPhones are very efficient with its use of memory. My iPhone 6 has 1 gb and still works pretty well. 3gb is a dramatic improvement.

Even though it's efficient, 4gb makes the $1000 price easier to swallow.
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Why do you need 4GB of RAM on an iPhone? This guy is living in 2021! :)



Battery could be slightly less than iPhone 8 Plus and privacy is depndant on the OS not the phone. The display though, should be amazing.



It’s possible, but probably unlikely. In 2018 in would be unnecessary and would only slap another $50 on the phone’s price.

I’ve also been wondering how the heck they will handle 2018. iPhone and iPhone Pro? 8S? iPhone 9 and iPhone XI? I wish they would have stuck with 7S, which would have given them 4 years more until they had to address the issue.

I am hoping that the prices will stay closer to the $699 and $799 range for the devices and also include an OLED display too.
 
So same battery size as a plus but lasts less than a plus

That's what's weird.

- 5.5" 16:9 display has a higher surface area than 5.8" in the new long formfactor.
- OLED is way more efficient displaying dark colors than LCD and only a little bit worse regarding bright colors.
- Internals, OS etc. are the same.
 
Listen to yourself.
If you were paying attention to what I said earlier, I mentioned we can only assume and never made any hard claim that RAM wasn't an issue. Specifically, I mentioned we can only assume:
In these small devices, I would be willing to wager the CPU is the bottleneck more than the amount of RAM, once the device is a few years old. Alas, we can only assume though.

To be fair, I don't really care about specs of phones or tablets much any more. I use the device to see if it fits the bill.
Now, what makes you believe it is a RAM limitation? By your lack of data, it seems you are guessing too, just like me. I'm not drilling you here; I am looking to see if there was specific data that pointed to a RAM issue.
 
If that's almost double as the iPhone 8 (about 1000 mAh more), why did they claim it will last 2 hours more? Wouldn't it be much longer than 2 hours?
 
This phone is going to be such a beast. My only wish is that it would have 4GB RAM instead of 3. The 7+ and 8+ already have 3 so another gig would further help distance it from all other iPhone models.
 
Yet you have this:
 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus 64G Space Gray
 5.85" iPhone X 64G Space Gray
 10.5" iPad Pro 64G Space Gray
 15.4" MacBook Pro with Retina Display Mid 2014

The reason he wants it future proofed is because he is actually a time-traveler and has come back to witness the historic launch of the iconic iPhone X. He already got one a couple of years from now and just forgot to change his signature, thus giving away the fact that he is from the future.
 
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Just as long as everyone takes note. 1000mAh more, and only 2h better battery life compared to Iphone7.

Shouldn't the OLED display etc be more energy efficient etc?
 
For all existing Plus users comparing the 8 Plus to the iPhone X and complaining about lower battery life that's fair enough but to then write off the X is a step too far.

Consider the existing non-Plus users who would never buy a Plus because they find the physical size is simply too big for them (very small hands, wanting to keep it in a front trouser pocket without it feeling like a small book is in there, or whatever other personal reason people might have for not wanting to go with a phone that big). For those people the X gives them a phone that really isn't that much bigger than their existing iPhone 6/6s/7 and still gets them closer to the battery life of the Plus models for some use cases (talk time and audio playback) and an increased screen size (I won't attempt to make any comparison between the X and the Plus screen size due to the complications of whether to consider the notch or not but I think everyone can agree that the X screen is bigger than the existing 4.7" non-Plus screen).

As for battery life on the X (and I come at this as a non-Plus user because the Plus is too big for me) one thing to remember is that, at least for some use cases, battery time could get a lot better if Apple and more app developers develop a dark mode because it's when an OLED screen has a lot of black pixels that it doesn't need to power at all where it starts becoming much more power efficient than an LCD screen that has a backlight on behind all the pixels regardless of whether they are white or black.

I do a lot of ebook reading on my phone and I switched iBooks on my iPhone 6s to dark mode about 6 months ago to see if I could get used to it in preparation for switching to OLED. I really like it now, am totally used to it, and suspect that it will take my ebook reading time from maybe getting 6 - 7 hours of reading on my 6s up to quite possibly 20 hours if I were to switch to an iPhone X(*) and maybe even more. My reason for thinking this is that there are so few non-black pixels on a page of text and so little processing going on when displaying a static page that I would hope the use case isn't that far removed from playing audio which Apple rates at 60 hours on an iPhone X. Who knows, I might even be able to get 30 or 40 hours of reading time (if nothing else is being done on the phone which, when on holiday, is actually the case for me).

If Apple start doing dark mode on some of their key apps (calendar, contacts, messages etc) then using those apps should become far more power efficient on the X and usage times might increase significantly which is a trick the iPhone 8 Plus (or any iPhone other than the X) can't take advantage of right now becasuse they don't have OLED screens.

- Julian

(*) I'm actually probably going to wait until next year's model to see how this FaceID thing works out. I've also realised, reading what I just typed above, that giving time for more of my favourite app developers to bring out dark OLED-optimised themes might also be another reason to wait a year before upgrading.
 
Exactly their pricing strategy
Yep. Exactly.

Clearly that's their intent with the removal of the 128gb offering (aka: the sweet spot). Now the storage options are "too small" and "overkill" (for the vast majority of users). What current 128 user is going to pay more to step down to 64? They're banking on those 128 users begrudgeounly dropping more $$ to jump up to the 256 option because - like I said - they're already paying more for less storage. "What's another couple hundred when you're already pissed about the grand you're dropping?"

Time will tell if the value is there. Will be interesting to see how reviews go as this device gets in users' hands.
 
For all existing Plus users comparing the 8 Plus to the iPhone X and complaining about lower battery life that's fair enough but to then write off the X is a step too far.

Consider the existing non-Plus users who would never buy a Plus because they find the physical size is simply too big for them (very small hands, wanting to keep it in a front trouser pocket without it feeling like a small book is in there, or whatever other personal reason people might have for not wanting to go with a phone that big). For those people the X gives them a phone that really isn't that much bigger than their existing iPhone 6/6s/7 and still gets them closer to the battery life of the Plus models for some use cases (talk time and audio playback) and an increased screen size (I won't attempt to make any comparison between the X and the Plus screen size due to the complications of whether to consider the notch or not but I think everyone can agree that the X screen is bigger than the existing 4.7" non-Plus screen).

As for battery life on the X (and I come at this as a non-Plus user because the Plus is too big for me) one thing to remember is that, at least for some use cases, battery time could get a lot better if Apple and more app developers develop a dark mode because it's when an OLED screen has a lot of black pixels that it doesn't need to power at all where it starts becoming much more power efficient than an LCD screen that has a backlight on behind all the pixels regardless of whether they are white or black.

I do a lot of ebook reading on my phone and I switched iBooks on my iPhone 6s to dark mode about 6 months ago to see if I could get used to it in preparation for switching to OLED. I really like it now, am totally used to it, and suspect that it will take my ebook reading time from maybe getting 6 - 7 hours of reading on my 6s up to quite possibly 20 hours if I were to switch to an iPhone X(*) and maybe even more. My reason for thinking this is that there are so few non-black pixels on a page of text and so little processing going on when displaying a static page that I would hope the use case isn't that far removed from playing audio which Apple rates at 60 hours on an iPhone X. Who knows, I might even be able to get 30 or 40 hours of reading time (if nothing else is being done on the phone which, when on holiday, is actually the case for me).

If Apple start doing dark mode on some of their key apps (calendar, contacts, messages etc) then using those apps should become far more power efficient on the X and usage times might increase significantly which is a trick the iPhone 8 Plus (or any iPhone other than the X) can't take advantage of right now becasuse they don't have OLED screens.

- Julian

(*) I'm actually probably going to wait until next year's model to see how this FaceID thing works out. I've also realised, reading what I just typed above, that giving time for more of my favourite app developers to bring out dark OLED-optimised themes might also be another reason to wait a year before upgrading.


I wonder will decrease of brightness of the screen will save battery power or not?
 
Of course it will be in short supply. That's what Apple wants, for marketing fodder.

Too bad they didn't up the ram to 4 Gig. Anything to warrant the $1K price tag...
 
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