If your on att and T-Mobile I read that the voice is a little better with the intel.
I have the Qualcomm on AT&T and they call quality is great.
If your on att and T-Mobile I read that the voice is a little better with the intel.
While I agree with you, this is the important part of the article. However, if you get the Qualcomm version, you're held back since it's disabling some of functionality of what the Qualcomm Snapdragon X16 offers. Had it not been disabled, would the differences be much more apparent? That's ridiculous that Apple disabled the full functionality of the modem. In my opinion, by Apple using intel it's resulting in an inferior product overall which affects all users. I hate Qualcomm and prefer Intel as a company, but I can say the difference of having the X16 modem in my Pixel 2, I am getting signal in places that I didn't get before.omg. GET REAL.
I think you missed the most important part of the article:
“Qualcomm's Snapdragon X16 is a gigabit-class modem that supports 4x4 MIMO, for example, but the functionality is disabled in the iPhone X. The result is that both the Qualcomm and Intel versions of the iPhone X have a peak theoretical download speed of 600 Mbps in most countries.”
This is the inherent problem with articles like this. Everyone’s iPhone X was fine until they read this article and discovered they might have an inferior modem. Suddenly there’s nerd outrage as they feel they’ve been cheated and want a lawsuit. Calm down people.
Real world testing with my 1901 on FiOS wifi just gave me 380/366 Mbps. And this is the “slow” modem.
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/2365947377
While I agree with you, this is the important part of the article. However, if you get the Qualcomm version, you're held back since it's disabling some of functionality of what the Qualcomm Snapdragon X16 offers. Had it not been disabled, would the differences be much more apparent? That's ridiculous that Apple disabled the full functionality of the modem. In my opinion, by Apple using intel it's resulting in an inferior product overall which affects all users. I hate Qualcomm and prefer Intel as a company, but I can say the difference of having the X16 modem in my Pixel 2, I am getting signal in places that I didn't get before.
If you want the best possible LTE performance, purchasing the A1865 model is the best option. For now, this requires ordering the Verizon model if you want an unlocked device in the United States. In many other countries, and in the U.S. soon enough, Apple sells an unlocked SIM-free A1865 model.
This article is pointless. No one in real world situation would notice any difference. Slow news day, Macrumors? Need some clicks?
im sure the difference isn't even noticable to any user.... why apple doesn't make just one version of the phone is beyond me.
Why doesn't Apple just make one model? Since clearly the A1865 model works on both CDMA and GSM networks. Why make a GSM only model here in the USA?
American consumers are less sensitive to cellular performance. Intel chips are cheaper.
In China for example, the phones are all Qualcomm. No model lottery because the users are more sensitive to performance. You also see Samsung and Huawei phones in Asia tend to have more RAM than U.S. models.
The article states that 4x4 MIMO is disabled and hints that maybe they disabled other stuff as well but used 4x4 MIMO as the specific example. According to Qualcomm here's what 4x4 MIMO does:Is that just throttling of throughput though, or a throttling of RF?
View attachment 739634 Interesting. When selecting Verizon as my carrier, I get presented with this. I didn't see this option before on Apple.com.
Has this option always been there? If not, then this is the SIM free version, available now. Seems like you don't need a Verizon account. Can anyone confirm?
View attachment 739634 Interesting. When selecting Verizon as my carrier, I get presented with this. I didn't see this option before on Apple.com.
Has this option always been there? If not, then this is the SIM free version, available now. Seems like you don't need a Verizon account. Can anyone confirm?
This article is pointless. No one in real world situation would notice any difference. Slow news day, Macrumors? Need some clicks?
I'm reading these comments and there's lots of good advice on how to get which modem and all, but the other comments about the screens makes me think...
Who the hell would pay $1000+ to participate in a "screen lottery"?
Is this Apple's version of the famous email that you've won the Irish Lottery?![]()
Can always count on getting the shaft with AT&T
wonder if qualcomm paid them.
This. I actually know a cellular radio engineer at Apple. I asked him about these guys way back when they first posted their article comparing the iPhone 7 with Qualcomm
and Intel modems.
In typical Apple fashion he wouldn't tell me anything about what goes on inside Apple (though I always ask him to see if he drops any clues). He did say one thing that stuck out, though. How does an unknown blogger get ahold of half a million dollars in cellular test equipment?
View attachment 739634 Interesting. When selecting Verizon as my carrier, I get presented with this. I didn't see this option before on Apple.com.
Has this option always been there? If not, then this is the SIM free version, available now. Seems like you don't need a Verizon account. Can anyone confirm?
American consumers are less sensitive to cellular performance. Intel chips are cheaper.
In China for example, all iPhone X are Qualcomm. No model lottery because the users are more sensitive to performance.
Intel chips are more expensive? I thought the opposite?
With CDMA/Qualcomm licensing and all
Cellular Insights were on Qualcomm‘s payroll last year and faked test results that made Qualcomm look good and made Intel look bad by using configurations that do not exist in the real world. Why should anything about that change this year? I am sure Qualcomm pays quite well for these results.
And after all, the equipment you need for these kinds of tests is so expensive that a niche website like that couldn‘t get it from ad revenue alone.
wonder if qualcomm paid them.