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Removing the home button from iPhone makes it look like just an Android version, and the notch is strange when in a scene. For an organization that has meticulously discussed .001mm chamfers on corners of gadgets, this is an entire mess up. It can be dealt with by the OS yet they are declining to do that oddly enough.
 
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And everyone will forget about the notch once they get their iPhone, just like they did with the camera bump, regardless of placement.

Every time I put my iPhone 7 plus on the table I am reminded of awful design. Camera bump is ****. Notch is ****. Let's not pretend it's awesome.
 
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Notch controversy is the removing headphone jack drama all over again.
Same as the camera bump in the 6.
Same as the 7 having the same design as the 6s.
Same ****, different year.
Does anyone still talk about the headphone jack or the bump? Oh, no? So seems like people can actually live with it. Who'd have thought that?
If you're not okay with a new design and the notch is so utterly distracting to you, just get the 8. That's why it exists.

It's astonishing to me that so many want new and different things, but when they actually do get new and different things, the first reactions is always negative.
...until they eventually get the new phone and actually start loving it.
 
I just noticed something: the notch of the iPhone X mirrors the notch of the MacBook at the place where you lift the screen from the lower body. Look at the first picture of a MacBook on this page: https://www.apple.com/macos/high-sierra/. (Maybe somebody could help me find a picture to upload here.)

Edit: Here are a couple of pics. Not great but they show the idea.

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Design and development time constraints for new product launches affect production.
If a technology, e.g. sensor(s) placement below the display that do not compromise screen bezel configuration were possible, the status bar would be notchless.
So far, that isn't feasible.
 
Why is everyone thinking the notch is taking away from the screen rather than the extra screen space adding to the top bezel?
Surfing the internet is horrible(IMO) in landscape anyway because the phone is too narrow for that. But they should leave the home gesture bar on the right to avoid taking up more space. If you return home from landscape you need to go bsck to portrait orientation anyway to use the phone the right way.
I avoided upgrading my 6 to a 7 last yr because of the X coming this year, it's almost 3yrs old and on its death bed. I'll get the X for sure and get used to it like everyone else will
 
I don't know but I don't think I can get over than notch. at this point when or if my 7 plus craps out I think I will get an 8 plus and just wait until they remove the notch.

We, as humans, are built to get over anything. You get over the most horrible things, notch is like nothing to get over.
 
It is 3 years old, but why is yours dying? just asking because i have one as well.
 
Essentially, because of the iPhone X's swipe gesture indicator, its 5.8-inch display actually has less vertical space than the 4.7-inch iPhone 8 in landscape orientation, according to developers Sean Choe and Steven Troughton-Smith.
And who needs vertical space in landscape mode? If you happen to have letterboxed websites anyway, put the swipe gesture indicator where the home button was!
 
The Notch is ugly and inelegant. Apple was so hung-up on creating an end-to-end experience that they refused to engineer within the fixed limitations and requirements inherent in a mobile phone handset. That they then set about to play off their mistake as an unavoidable idiosyncrasy of front guard engineering does indeed take some nuts; those that think this error is just the latest spin on "think different" have bought the con.

I would guess that fully 90% of users would have preferred an OLED that wrapped around the sides, but left ~7mm of space at the top and bottom to account for necessary sensors, lenses, etc. I don't care how Apple tries to spin this - the end result is a clumsy compromise born out of the exact kind incredibly stubborn slavery to form-over-function that periodically makes an an*s out of Apple.
 
Purely a marketing tatctic. If they hid the sensors within a small bezel, the phone would look just like an S8, G6 etc. they want this phone to stand out. When you see that notch you’ll know exactly what phone it is.

100 % agree. And the level of dictatorship in this guideline is unheard of. They used to push such behaviors in past but they also presented logical explanations or ANY explanation behind them. But now, "Dont bla, and also dont bla bla. That's all!" is purely funny.

I see great deal of desperation when I look at iPhone X and it's like Jony Ive sabotaged Apple just to get rid of it as he attempted to for the last 5-6 years to go back to UK.
 
"Make a bezelless phone! Smaller bezels the better!"

"Why didn't you make thicker bezels to hide the necessary cameras and sensors? Nobody asked for bezels that small."

can we stop calling iPhone X bezelless? Having a notch does not make it bezelless.

Apple claims that it's a 5.8" screen but lets be real, the actual physically usable part of the screen is lower than the typical area of a 5.8" screen, and if you take Apple's UI guidelines into consideration then that usable part seems to drop lower -_-

It's a pretty phone and Face ID looks amazing, but contrary what Phil and Tim were saying on stage, this is not the ultimate iPhone that they wanted to design, if they really wanted to design a phone that has a notch sticking out rendering part of the screen essentially unusable, then they need to stop smoking w/e they smoking.
 
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Given the iPhone X's design was leaked months before it was unveiled, many people wondered how Apple would choose to approach the notch housing the device's new TrueDepth front camera and facial recognition system.

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Now that the iPhone X is official, we know the answer. Apple's new human interface guidelines for the device advise developers to embrace the notch by ensuring the layout of their apps fill the entire screen.In fewer words, Apple doesn't want developers to hide the notch or swipe indicator by placing black bars at the top and bottom of the screen.

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Article Link: Everything You Need to Know About the iPhone X's Controversial Notch
It's a notch, get over it.
 
I thought that it was going to be bad enough, as it is quite distracting, in terms of drawing the eye, as it breaks the uniformity of the design.

But the fact that some content is actually "covered up"? In the keynote, when they demoed the game, some of the UI of the game was "missing" under the notch...

This could have been solved with a different software/UI approach from , as some suggestions on the internet have offered.
 
I think just a virtual horizontal line across both sides of the notch fixes this issue. Apple should be doing that as an update, they can even offer it as an option in the settings.
 
Some people here...

1. Apple gives you screen real estate not take it away with both sides of the notch. What better place to have the status symbols there? You free up like at least 6 mm that would be used on the "main screen" area instead.

2. You only have a video or picture use the full screen if you zoom in. Has been shown on so many pictures now, that a 16:9 movie will be a perfect rectangle. And since it is OLED the not used pixel will be completely black.

3. Even if a game or so uses the whole screen, who cares? I have like never played a game that only plays at the corners...

So please just stop repeating those lies.
 
Some people here...

1. Apple gives you screen real estate not take it away with both sides of the notch. What better place to have the status symbols there? You free up like at least 6 mm that would be used on the "main screen" area instead.

2. You only have a video or picture use the full screen if you zoom in. Has been shown on so many pictures now, that a 16:9 movie will be a perfect rectangle. And since it is OLED the not used pixel will be completely black.

3. Even if a game or so uses the whole screen, who cares? I have like never played a game that only plays at the corners...

So please just stop repeating those lies.

1. given that on most items the status bar hides it self I don't think that it's a problem on much of the other iPhones. RE: Apps I don't think having the extra real estate would have night and day differences for apps, maybe games could benefit but otherwise it's videos and photos mostly that look to gain the most.

2. which brings me to my next point, if videos and photos are the ones primarily benefiting from the '5.8"' screen then why is it that to make full use of the screen you either need to blow the video up so that the notch takes a chunk of it away, or as you suggested use it in the standard 16:9 ration without zooming in which would result in letterboxing on both the notch AND the non notch side?

3. Apple's own HCI guidelines only show a comparison between a 4.7" screen but I'd be more interested to see a comparison with the 5.5" screen, cos my guess is, when it comes to media consumption (without comparing the quality of the screen it self) a iPhone + model would have more screen real estate for videos.

4. RE: Games... I'd imagine games and apps that run in landscape mode alike, it's a UI nightmare, which ever way you hold it, games will have buttons on both sides, and you're inevitably gonna be obstructed by the notch. Now the HCI guidelines say that apps and UI objects must embrace the notch, so apart from the amount of work devs now need to put in to create a specific version of the UI for the iPhone X, if they just choose to make a blanket change, then for the non X users the buttons will be a bit further in the screen making it a less optimal experience.

All in all, I don't think they should market it as a 5.8" screen cos it's not, and like many have said it's a really inelegant solution, I get that they couldn't get the tech in time to hide the sensors under the screen, but surely they could have done a better job dealing with the notch. I personally like how Essential deals with it by blacking it out but that's just me.
 
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People don't realize that the reason that their bezels is to make the phone proportional. Because of the size of the Touch ID sensor, the bezels have to be big to make the phone look more aesthetically pleasing. These same people wanted apple to get rid of the bezels, and now they want Touch ID. Can't have it both ways

Agreed. Bezel-less phones have no value. I am perfectly happy with the iphone 7 size and screen estate. Yeah, sure a tad smaller bezels would be fine too. But bezel-less phones have several ergonomic short comings. To start with reaching corners is impossible. Gaming with on-screen virtual buttons in corners is not convenient. And with that whole drag to get homescreen thingy... I am sure people will keep getting that screen when all they are trying to do is tap or scroll something at the bottom.

That said, I am going to be really disgruntled with 8+ when I get it too. For it's size. How I wish they had put its camera in 8 form factor too!
 
Dumbest controversy ever. Apple's own guidelines don't require developers to have the notch overlap content. It's like people have never heard of the concept of "live area" before, even though they routinely experience it on their computers and phones and tablets and TVs and books and magazines and comics and....
 
Honestly, the more I've thought about this launch. The more I wish they'd just slapped a 1080p OLED display on the iPhone 8 and the SE. Sure it wouldn't look as fancy as the X but it would probably be a lot more usable and what we'd actually want.
64GB iPhone 8 1080p OLED @ $699 please.
This is all I've been asking for the entire time: just higher screen resolution and the Plus camera without having to go to the Plus.

Don't want OLED, don't want to lose a front-side Touch ID, and don't want these godawful compromises to squish everything into the extreme edges and ears of a compromised design. And to pay more for it than ever before? There's no way.
 
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I just noticed something: the notch of the iPhone X mirrors the notch of the MacBook at the place where you lift the screen from the lower body. Look at the first picture of a MacBook on this page: https://www.apple.com/macos/high-sierra/. (Maybe somebody could help me find a picture to upload here.)

Edit: Here are a couple of pics. Not great but they show the idea.

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All i see if one of those strawberries getting eaten up by the notch
 
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